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Thu Jul 14, 2022, 03:30 PM

A heads up DUers... in coming disrupters.

The ugly stepsister site JPR seems to be effectively off line the past 4 or 5 days. Every post comes up as unavailable including the site administrators information.

Not too long ago there were posts on JPR stating they would possibly be going off line if they got too much attention from the media and/or were possibly investigated because of their pro Russian views and propaganda.

Look for an influx of trolls and anti democratic posts due to returning disrupters and possible Russian trolls.

Many of us remember the last time and will be watchful.

Be strong, be aware, be ready.



Update: The internet is forever. www.archive.org has hundreds of JPR posts from this year alone.

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Reply A heads up DUers... in coming disrupters. (Original post)
revmclaren Jul 2022 OP
Chin music Jul 2022 #1
Elessar Zappa Jul 2022 #2
Dr. Strange Jul 2022 #3
revmclaren Jul 2022 #5
Hortensis Jul 2022 #106
pnwmom Jul 2022 #47
Scrivener7 Jul 2022 #121
SCantiGOP Jul 2022 #4
revmclaren Jul 2022 #6
azureblue Jul 2022 #96
Scrivener7 Jul 2022 #122
Maraya1969 Jul 2022 #7
spooky3 Jul 2022 #8
rurallib Jul 2022 #29
Hermit-The-Prog Jul 2022 #35
rurallib Jul 2022 #37
Hermit-The-Prog Jul 2022 #39
FSogol Jul 2022 #89
SilasSouleII Jul 2022 #105
Cha Jul 2022 #86
paleotn Jul 2022 #41
radical noodle Jul 2022 #68
paleotn Jul 2022 #91
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2022 #98
dameatball Jul 2022 #63
Irish_Dem Jul 2022 #9
SheltieLover Jul 2022 #13
Irish_Dem Jul 2022 #15
SheltieLover Jul 2022 #17
Irish_Dem Jul 2022 #18
SheltieLover Jul 2022 #21
ShazzieB Jul 2022 #61
SheltieLover Jul 2022 #65
UpInArms Jul 2022 #94
duhneece Jul 2022 #95
SheltieLover Jul 2022 #126
Wicked Blue Jul 2022 #107
SheltieLover Jul 2022 #127
Scrivener7 Jul 2022 #123
SheltieLover Jul 2022 #128
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SheltieLover Jul 2022 #131
lpbk2713 Jul 2022 #10
Irish_Dem Jul 2022 #16
Lunabell Jul 2022 #11
msfiddlestix Jul 2022 #12
SheltieLover Jul 2022 #14
zappaman Jul 2022 #19
SheltieLover Jul 2022 #22
BumRushDaShow Jul 2022 #46
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BlackSkimmer Jul 2022 #23
revmclaren Jul 2022 #24
BlackSkimmer Jul 2022 #30
revmclaren Jul 2022 #33
Tetrachloride Jul 2022 #71
BlackSkimmer Jul 2022 #83
Hortensis Jul 2022 #108
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luv2fly Jul 2022 #36
BlackSkimmer Jul 2022 #82
Hortensis Jul 2022 #110
Hortensis Jul 2022 #111
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Kaleva Jul 2022 #45
Mosby Jul 2022 #77
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revmclaren Jul 2022 #34
Hortensis Jul 2022 #113
BlackSkimmer Jul 2022 #115
betsuni Jul 2022 #120
yaesu Jul 2022 #25
revmclaren Jul 2022 #26
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onecaliberal Jul 2022 #27
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Response to revmclaren (Original post)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 03:36 PM

2. Fuck those idiots.

They give Bernie supporters a bad name. I think many of them are Russian trolls, as you say.

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Response to revmclaren (Original post)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 03:38 PM

3. Pro-Russian views? WTF?

I haven't perused the site in quite a while, but damn, what a turn of events!

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Response to Dr. Strange (Reply #3)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 03:40 PM

5. A couple stated outright the supported Putin and

the war against Ukraine.

Sickening.

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Response to revmclaren (Reply #5)

Fri Jul 15, 2022, 02:51 PM

106. :) Contemptible, but JPR's statement sounds pretty paranoid and self important.

Russia's assistance to the tRump and Sanders campaigns back in 2013-16, and later, and both the satisfaction of some of their followers with anything that advanced their candidates and years of smearing Democrats, combined with frequently expressed admiration for Putin etc, did not result in the evil feds closing them down. Maybe it's more of the Russian Kool-Aid some developed such a taste for.

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Response to Dr. Strange (Reply #3)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 05:47 PM

47. Not surprising at all. nt

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Response to Dr. Strange (Reply #3)

Mon Jul 18, 2022, 01:40 PM

121. They've always been Putin fans.

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Response to revmclaren (Original post)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 03:39 PM

4. I rarely Alert on posts

I have alerted two today. Content I was shocked to see on DU.
As the election gets closer, we can expect more trolling and disruption.

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Response to SCantiGOP (Reply #4)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 03:41 PM

6. Yup.

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Response to SCantiGOP (Reply #4)

Fri Jul 15, 2022, 11:49 AM

96. and instances of thread diversion

Like trying to start a discussion that is OT, in hopes of getting enough responses to dilute the post. For instance: "Biden flies to Europe" --- "Flying is such a chore these days".

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Response to azureblue (Reply #96)

Mon Jul 18, 2022, 01:46 PM

122. Also people joining and racking up thousands of posts in a month, and all their posts being

cheered by the same three OTHER brand new posters.

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Response to revmclaren (Original post)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 03:49 PM

7. WHAT IS JPR????????????

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Response to Maraya1969 (Reply #7)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 03:50 PM

8. Jackpine Radicals

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Response to Maraya1969 (Reply #7)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 04:57 PM

29. Several were DU members a while back that were pushing Bernie

and seemed to go way over the line. At least that is my recollection. Can't remember if that was during the 2016 or 2020 election.

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Response to rurallib (Reply #29)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 05:09 PM

35. I'm not likely to assist the GOTV for 29020. Sorry.

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Response to Hermit-The-Prog (Reply #35)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 05:12 PM

37. looks like my fingers played a joke on me

I have punished them

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Response to rurallib (Reply #37)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 05:15 PM

39. My keyboard is sentient. I tried cleaning it once and it threw stuff in my eye.

There are certain keys that I just do not touch now.

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Response to Hermit-The-Prog (Reply #35)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 07:24 PM

89. In the year 29020, if man is still alive...

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Response to FSogol (Reply #89)

Fri Jul 15, 2022, 02:31 PM

105. Now it's been ten thousand years...


Man has cried a billion tears
For what, he never knew, now man's reign is through
But through eternal night, the twinkling of starlight
So very far away, maybe it's only yesterday

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Response to rurallib (Reply #29)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 07:15 PM

86. It was 2016 and your

recollection is correct.

Focus!
Please Fight to Save Our Democracy💙 in 2022 & 2024!

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Response to Maraya1969 (Reply #7)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 05:27 PM

41. Faux Dems posing as radical leftists.....

Got all pouty when Bernie Sanders lost the Dem nomination back in 2016 and went off to make their own echo chamber filled with Russian propaganda. They're most definitely NOT missed. Least that's how I remember it. I've slept several times since then and don't make a habit of keeping up with such ilk.

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Response to paleotn (Reply #41)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 06:24 PM

68. Most of them voted against Hillary and

cheered when she lost. They celebrated trump's election.

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Response to radical noodle (Reply #68)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 07:39 PM

91. Apparently, that's the kind of guys they are.

Ugh.

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Response to radical noodle (Reply #68)

Fri Jul 15, 2022, 11:52 AM

98. Yes I remember that

Went over to JPR out of curiosity after the 2016 election. A lot of gloating going on. Never mind the people who got hurt by Trump and the GOP.

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Response to Maraya1969 (Reply #7)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 06:15 PM

63. I dunno either. Glad you asked.

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Response to revmclaren (Original post)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 03:52 PM

9. I already got hit today here with troll hatred.

I put him on ignore.

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Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #9)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 04:04 PM

13. Here?

Link?

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Response to SheltieLover (Reply #13)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 04:06 PM

15. I'd rather not share it.

Don't want to encourage that kind of thing.

Hi Sheltie, how are you!!

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Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #15)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 04:08 PM

17. Ok. I was going to alert.

Feeling a bit better today, thx. Hru?

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Response to SheltieLover (Reply #17)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 04:15 PM

18. Many thanks.

You are a sweetie!

The poster in question was skating right on the line, but making all kinds of very angry, hostile and ridiculous accusations about me. Bizarre.

Oh I didn't know you were under the weather.
Sorry to hear it. I am glad you are doing a bit better.

I'm having a good day!

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Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #18)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 04:19 PM

21. Well, it's worth alerting on imo.

Ya, I spent 14 hellacious hrs in er recently.

Glad you are well!

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Response to SheltieLover (Reply #21)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 06:10 PM

61. SheltieLover, I didn't know you'd been unwell lately.

14 hours in the ER definitely sounds hellacious. Glad to hear you're on the mend now.

I've been a little under the weather myself lately, but I'm improving all the time.

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Response to ShazzieB (Reply #61)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 06:18 PM

65. It was surreal.

Sorry to hear you've been unwell, but glad to hear your are feeling better!

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Response to SheltieLover (Reply #65)

Fri Jul 15, 2022, 10:05 AM

94. So glad you are on the mend, dear SheltieLover

(((((((HUGS)))))))

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Response to SheltieLover (Reply #21)

Fri Jul 15, 2022, 11:47 AM

95. I'm so sorry you went through that

I hope you are in a much better place. ER’s can be nightmares.

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Response to duhneece (Reply #95)

Mon Jul 18, 2022, 04:04 PM

126. Quality medical care here is non-exisfent.

I think the docs I've seen got their licenses out of cracker jack boxes.

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Response to SheltieLover (Reply #21)

Fri Jul 15, 2022, 03:09 PM

107. Sometimes ER is worse than the ailment

I hope you're all better now

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Response to Wicked Blue (Reply #107)

Mon Jul 18, 2022, 04:05 PM

127. Getting better, thx!

It took them over 5 hrs to hang a bag of fluid. 😓

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Response to SheltieLover (Reply #21)

Mon Jul 18, 2022, 01:50 PM

123. Oh no! You OK now?

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Response to Scrivener7 (Reply #123)

Mon Jul 18, 2022, 04:05 PM

128. Getting better, thx!

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Response to SheltieLover (Reply #128)

Mon Jul 18, 2022, 04:07 PM

129. Good to hear!

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Response to Scrivener7 (Reply #129)

Mon Jul 18, 2022, 04:09 PM

131. Thx!

It was a surreal experience. Of the nightmarish type. 😏

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Response to revmclaren (Original post)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 03:53 PM

10. That should explain some of the divisive OPs I've seen lately.



Thanks for the info.

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Response to lpbk2713 (Reply #10)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 04:07 PM

16. I thought the dark mood was due to reality hitting us hard.

America's future looks very dim.

But maybe the trolls are going to pile on too.

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Response to revmclaren (Original post)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 03:53 PM

11. K&R

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Response to revmclaren (Original post)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 04:02 PM

12. ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ n/t

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Response to revmclaren (Original post)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 04:05 PM

14. Juries need to be aware. Ty for posting!

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Response to revmclaren (Original post)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 04:17 PM

19. Those morons are still around?

The exodus of those idiots to JPR was a godsend for this site

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Response to zappaman (Reply #19)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 04:20 PM

22. Sounds like it from what little I've heard.



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Response to zappaman (Reply #19)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 05:46 PM

46. Oh my....

I thought you had disappeared into the ethers. Good to see you posting again!!

I don't even know if I interacted with you that much in the past when I was still working but I do remember the great exodus and my ignore list dropped to zero after the PPRs, FFRs, and those who left.

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Response to revmclaren (Original post)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 04:18 PM

20. Thanks.

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Response to revmclaren (Original post)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 04:24 PM

23. I truly don't understand the fascination with that site that some here have.

 

They splintered off, faltered, and now seem to have expired.

Who gives a damn?

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Response to BlackSkimmer (Reply #23)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 04:34 PM

24. Many of us DO give a damn since with JPR down,

many will be looking for an new (old) nesting place.

And those of us who checked up on them regularly saw posts mentioning visiting DU to keep track on what was going on here.

You were here during the time they infested DU so you know first hand what they are capable of doing if they return under different names.

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Response to revmclaren (Reply #24)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 04:58 PM

30. I don't get the worry though. People who espouse that crap are quickly shut down.

 

That’s why I always scoff at people who think there are paid trolls here.

This website is made up of mostly over 50 year old people who are lifelong Democrats. Does some crap some idiots post bother you, assuming it even stands for any length of time? Do you really think some troll will change any minds here?

It doesn’t bother me. What bothers me is all the posters here who continually post rw tropes, Fox News items, rw talking points, rw tweets…and somehow that’s ok. I don’t get that, and it’s the same people doing it again and again.

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Response to BlackSkimmer (Reply #30)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 05:07 PM

33. Except them getting a foothold here gives them

the ability to alert on posts and to serve on juries. This means they could in theory help keep disrupters on DU and punish loyal Democrats by alerting on their posts.

That's why I say to be aware and be vigilant.

The saying 'fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me' has a lot of meaning here. Hundreds here will be vigilant and will not be fooled.

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Response to revmclaren (Reply #33)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 06:31 PM

71. juries are what DU officially wants

until I came to DU, i never heard of such a thing in online group.

Walmart customers to Aisle 3
= JPr ?

Never heard of JPR

Random thoughts.

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Response to revmclaren (Reply #33)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 07:06 PM

83. Meh. I don't give them that much credit.

 

Crap is usually shut down pretty quick here. You are giving them more power than they could ever deserve.

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Response to revmclaren (Reply #33)

Fri Jul 15, 2022, 03:09 PM

108. Revmclaren, that forum was always a satellite of this one, getting energy

from visiting and smearing DU, like Conservative Cave. Some dozens of anti-Democratic leftists left when all DUers were required to say they agreed to support HRC once she was the nominee (their hostility was the reason that became necessary), and many migrated to this dismal little moon at that time.

But they've always had a "foothold" and were here before JPR. At least any who try to push attacks against Biden and Harris, other Dems and policies, don't get away with a fraction as much.

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Response to revmclaren (Reply #33)

Fri Jul 15, 2022, 04:35 PM

114. Fool you three times and you are Susan Collins!

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Response to BlackSkimmer (Reply #30)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 05:10 PM

36. You nailed it

"What bothers me is all the posters here who continually post rw tropes, Fox News items, rw talking points, rw tweets…and somehow that’s ok."

If I wanted that, I'd go look for it, and I don't. Sadly I have to wade through some of it here, as subject lines don't always tell you the source.

But then again, when I rule the world...

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Response to luv2fly (Reply #36)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 07:03 PM

82. Yup.

 

I don’t get all the rw stuff I see here. Annoys me no end.

But like you said lol….

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Response to BlackSkimmer (Reply #82)

Fri Jul 15, 2022, 03:17 PM

111. There's always been a big synergy between "rw," anti-Democrat LWers,

and Russia etc. They have a big interest in common -- defeating Democrats, and narrative themes and other messagings that undermine support for Democrats serve them all.

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Response to luv2fly (Reply #36)

Fri Jul 15, 2022, 05:24 PM

117. good sigline luv2fly

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Response to BlackSkimmer (Reply #30)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 05:37 PM

45. Some were here for years. Manny was a long time DUer

They dance right up to the line..


If I recall correctly, there have been several sites made up of former DUers who had either been banned or left angrily on their own. All have failed primarily because, IMO, the only thing that united them was their hatred of DU.

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Response to Kaleva (Reply #45)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 06:48 PM

77. Manny Goldstein left because he couldn't manage the antisemitism.

It got out of control at JPR.

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Response to Mosby (Reply #77)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 07:12 PM

85. Did he say that becsuse that group has always been anti semitic

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Response to JI7 (Reply #85)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 07:21 PM

88. He said it as politely as he could in his GBCW post.

He tried to set limits but it didn't work, he was drowned out by the mob.

He literally sold the site to them.



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Response to Mosby (Reply #88)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 07:31 PM

90. Anti semitism is a huge part of what they are

I feel nothing but disgust when I think of MG .

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Response to Mosby (Reply #88)

Fri Jul 15, 2022, 12:02 PM

100. Selling the website to anti-Semites might not have been his best move.

 

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Response to Mosby (Reply #77)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 08:34 PM

93. Manny was banned here.

I didn't know he left JPR because of the anti-Semitism

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=176002

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Response to BlackSkimmer (Reply #30)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 05:55 PM

50. Well a similar thing happened when Skinner finally shut down Discussionist

a wretched hive of scum and villainy. All you have to do is serve on MIRT a few terms to see exactly when the miscreants come in and get

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Response to BlackSkimmer (Reply #23)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 04:50 PM

28. It's the trolls

 

Some of those fine assholes also were and probably are active here

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Response to 48656c6c6f20 (Reply #28)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 04:59 PM

31. So? Who cares? They are shut down pdq.

 

Do you really think anyone’s mind is changed by these idiots?

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Response to BlackSkimmer (Reply #31)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 05:08 PM

34. See my post 33

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Response to BlackSkimmer (Reply #31)

Fri Jul 15, 2022, 03:26 PM

113. I think whole nations are being sabotaged by behaviors just like theirs.

What's not to understand about avowed schemes by Putin and other hostiles to ally the anti-Democratic left with the right to take out all the "anyones" whose minds couldn't be changed. After all, minorities can destroy democracies, and have many times, but it's a lot more doable if they're large minorities. Most often successful when together as highly antagonistic, aggressively "antiestablishment" populist movements.

Which we had and still have. This little nest included a bunch of the kind of leftist populists who yelled "lock her up" at the Democratic nominating convention same as tRump's RW populists.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #113)

Fri Jul 15, 2022, 04:39 PM

115. My point is that I don't believe for one second that anyone on DU would have their mind changed

 

by some troll, paid or otherwise.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #113)

Fri Jul 15, 2022, 11:36 PM

120. +1

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Response to revmclaren (Original post)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 04:36 PM

25. I don't think any blog site can be forced offline or officially punished in any way by government

my thoughts are they probably have too many bills to support too many russian trolls and not enough interested views so they just made up that crap to save face.

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Response to yaesu (Reply #25)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 04:45 PM

26. With a number of members stating they lived in or

regularly visited Russia including one who was rabidly pro Putin who kept JPR on the progress of getting his family out of Ukraine to the United States.

So yes, some on JPR could be found to be Russian assets.

But time will tell.

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Response to revmclaren (Reply #26)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 06:49 PM

78. Some were even too much for JPR.

Like Clarity of Signal.

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Response to yaesu (Reply #25)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 07:08 PM

84. Delusions of grandeur

are par for that crowd.

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Response to revmclaren (Original post)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 04:45 PM

27. I have seen it increase dramatically.

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Response to onecaliberal (Reply #27)

Mon Jul 18, 2022, 01:51 PM

124. So have I. In the last few days. (nt)

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Response to revmclaren (Original post)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 05:05 PM

32. Hmmmmmm. Now wondering if that is in any way connected with the

"forbidden" black screen that some of us encountered the other day. .

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Response to niyad (Reply #32)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 05:53 PM

48. I theorized that was due to the...

Stampede prompted by the JanG hearings.

DU used to have announced reductions in functionality during high volume events.

I hadn’t seen any loading effects lately.

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Response to niyad (Reply #32)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 06:03 PM

55. .

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Response to niyad (Reply #32)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 06:41 PM

74. Probably just a software glitch.

First time I got a notice though. EarlG and company keeps a great handle on it.

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Response to revmclaren (Original post)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 05:12 PM

38. I don't

understand what the big deal is.
The real problem was them creating chaos with the primaries, and we aren't even close to that season yet.
I can handle people disagreeing with me, I'm not sure why some others can't. I'm outright insulted multiple times daily here and it's usually easy to just move on and ignore it.

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Response to ForgedCrank (Reply #38)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 05:20 PM

40. You were not here during the disruptive times.

Those who took off to JPR didnt simply have disagreeing opinions, they HATED Democrats.

Their disruptive posts are still there in DUs archives and on www.archive.org.

'Those who ignore the past are doomed to repeat it'.

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Response to revmclaren (Reply #40)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 05:33 PM

43. Yes, I

was here. I've been reading here for at least a decade. I only started posting a couple of years ago so I do remember them.
There were quite a number of a-holes for sure, but I would like to think DU ejects those types regardless of their affiliations. In fact, there are quite a number of Bernie fans still here, a lot of them. They just aren't a-holes for the most part.

I still think my points are proper though, I'm not saying anyone else is wrong. For those who aren't a-holes, I can ignore the disagreements easy enough. I know this doesn't necessarily align with DU rules, but there are tons of posts here daily that don't align with general rules of civility or official rules and they are never addressed either. I just try to move on and ignore those people the best I can.

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Response to ForgedCrank (Reply #43)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 06:01 PM

54. They suck up oxygen and take up time.

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Response to niyad (Reply #54)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 06:04 PM

56. Alright, I

had to laugh at that one.

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Response to ForgedCrank (Reply #38)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 05:36 PM

44. They didn't and probably still don't do reasoned disagreement...

Their point is to be as inflammatory and destructive as possible. To sow as much strife as they can in our small sector of the Democratic Party. For what end? Who knows? I could get conspiratorial, but I won't. Personally, I think they're just dupes.

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Response to paleotn (Reply #44)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 05:58 PM

53. I have to be

honest, I really don't remember a lot of details. I remember there were a handful of them that caused a lot of fighting here and really upset a lot of people. I think you are right in some respects, some of them appeared to be doing it just to do it.
The majority of them seemed to just be passionate about their candidate. Then again, I could be one of those people who only remembers the stuff that I want to.
I never found Bernie to be particularly impressive, even though I did like some of the concepts he put forth for policy.
Let's just hope they all stay out of the election coming up in two years, we really can't afford that happening again.

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Response to ForgedCrank (Reply #53)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 08:00 PM

92. The thing is, it wasn't about being passionate about policy or the candidate.

An article about Hillary, a hundred inflammatory comments of conspiracy theories, disinformation and vicious insults about her and "Hillarians." An article about Bernie, same thing, all comments about the immoral, corrupt evil fictional enemy they turned her into.

No interest in discussing policy (all of which had the same goal and none of which were new or original) and they didn't know that much about their candidate either. Quote him and they don't believe it, they don't know. Mostly repeating slogans as moral purity tests. When there are only small policy differences, go after character.

Was funny that JPR removed Bernie's picture on their homepage after he endorsed Biden. Nobody can pass all their purity tests. Elizabeth Warren went from being a beloved progressive hero that they swear up and down they would've voted for had she run for president, to Hillary 2.0/Pocahontas/Republican/capitalist/corporate shill the instant she did run for president. See, not about policy!

We know it's coming in 2024. They're laying off the old slogans and insult buzzwords, though, which is a good idea. The instant you hear "corporate Dems" "neoliberal" "status quo" you know they don't know anything and are just interested in name-calling Democrats. For whatever reason.

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Response to betsuni (Reply #92)

Fri Jul 15, 2022, 03:17 PM

112. A corporate dem is a politician that cares more about their corporate donors than their constituents

I think joe manchin or lieberman are examples of that

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Response to questionseverything (Reply #112)

Fri Jul 15, 2022, 11:17 PM

119. It's used to call the Democratic Party corrupt, that campaign contributions corrupt all except

a few who are pure and uncorrupt because they call their contributions "grassroots." Rule: if a Wall Street employee or a billionaire donates $27 dollars a month until they reach the limit, it is "grassroots." If they donate $2,000 all at once, it is corrupting. Democrats always "take" money and the innocent grassroots receive it. SuperPACs that accept dark money but pass themselves off as pure "grassroots" call PACs dedicated to helping elect Democrats "corporate PACS" and corrupt. The propaganda is so obvious.

The ideology that all dysfunction in government is caused by money, corruption can only be fixed by the "grassroots" people replacing the bad old corrupt Democrats. The idea that a Democrat in a red state or district will sometimes vote differently than one in a deep blue place because very different constituencies does not seem to occur to them. (And that when red state constituents are polled they often agree they want nice things, but that's not why they vote. Republicans vote on culture wars, race.) Everything has to been about being bribed by the evil corporations! Corporations that want no regulations/taxes overwhelmingly donate to Republicans. Why waste money bribing Democrats when Republicans are a sure bet.

For years I'd ask these people who say "corporate Dems" exactly who they're talking about and never got an answer -- until the Manchin and Sinema problem. Finally two names, they named names. Much better than a vague smear and continually talking about corruption without giving an example. "Enough is enough," indeed. Going to call someone corrupt, one should have examples. I think only Sinema comes close. Someone who drastically changes their votes after being elected. But that could just as well be a number of other reasons.

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Response to revmclaren (Original post)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 05:30 PM

42. I think they may have arrived. Lots of mean gene stuff the past few days.

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Response to revmclaren (Original post)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 05:54 PM

49. Yeah I saw one the other day. twenty four posts in 90 days.

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Response to Autumn (Reply #49)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 05:56 PM

51. lol

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Response to Celerity (Reply #51)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 05:58 PM

52. Hey Cel. Good to see you

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Response to Autumn (Reply #52)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 06:07 PM

60. same for you Autumn

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Response to Autumn (Reply #49)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 06:05 PM

58. !

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Response to Autumn (Reply #49)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 06:17 PM

64. Well there are those on DU who dont have the time or

inclination to post say, over 200 times in 90 days. Real life and all that.

Though most of us here do have the great privilege of never posting at JPR so there is that.

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Response to revmclaren (Original post)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 06:04 PM

57. These threads.

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Response to revmclaren (Original post)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 06:06 PM

59. I thought all JPR Bernie-bots were exiled and stranded the last time their site crashed?

They're still alive???

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Response to revmclaren (Original post)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 06:13 PM

62. Just an FYI

I’m not a Jack pine radical.

I never heard of Jack Pine radicals.

I’m a very big Bernie Supporter, a retired army officer, a radical democratic for democracy- and I voted for Joe when it was necessary. And I hate Russian interference in our elections.

So if you see me posting- don’t worry. I’m 100% all American.

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Response to James48 (Reply #62)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 06:18 PM

66. ...

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Response to James48 (Reply #62)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 06:30 PM

70. +1. Carry on :)

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Response to revmclaren (Original post)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 06:20 PM

67. I enjoy hiking

But lately I've been self-teaching how to trim back rose bushes in the yard.

Also building a new PC.

Just throwing alternatives out there.

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Response to Sympthsical (Reply #67)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 06:28 PM

69. Personally, I enjoy metal detecting in my spare time.

Mostly parks and such close to home. Hope I can make it to the coast soon. Used to go to Monterey. Covid put a stop to travelling.

Miss it.

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Response to revmclaren (Reply #69)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 06:39 PM

73. I have to go to Watsonville first week of August

Some really strange work thing. I'm hoping I can detour to the Aquarium if I have the time. I need more otters in my life.

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Response to Sympthsical (Reply #73)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 06:42 PM

75. The Aquarium sounds great.

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Response to Sympthsical (Reply #73)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 06:47 PM

76. If I get to be another animal after I die, let it be an OTTER!

I could watch them for hours. Enjoying life like that is precious!

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Response to revmclaren (Original post)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 06:33 PM

72. I saw some odd posts this morning

and sorta of wondered if there was a Nor'easter blowing in....

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Response to revmclaren (Original post)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 06:51 PM

79. Jury duty awaits...

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Response to revmclaren (Original post)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 06:52 PM

80. Already here ... Biden's age is a big "concern".

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Response to live love laugh (Reply #80)

Fri Jul 15, 2022, 11:57 AM

99. Yep

A lot of those lately

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Response to revmclaren (Original post)

Thu Jul 14, 2022, 07:16 PM

87. Yeah that board was too much for even me, a Bernie guy

I’ll alert anything eye opening.

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Response to revmclaren (Original post)

Fri Jul 15, 2022, 11:49 AM

97. Usually long time members with low post counts

They come to DU now and then to stir shit up.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Reply #97)

Fri Jul 15, 2022, 12:13 PM

101. I've seen that.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Reply #97)

Fri Jul 15, 2022, 12:14 PM

102. I've noticed that also,

makes one go hmmmmmmm.

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Response to revmclaren (Original post)

Fri Jul 15, 2022, 02:16 PM

103. Kicking!

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Response to revmclaren (Original post)

Fri Jul 15, 2022, 02:17 PM

104. Nope, never heard of JPR

Sounds like ignorance is bliss.

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Response to revmclaren (Original post)

Fri Jul 15, 2022, 03:13 PM

109. They're here, burrowing in

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Response to Hekate (Reply #109)

Fri Jul 15, 2022, 06:26 PM

118. Unfortunately...

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Response to revmclaren (Original post)

Fri Jul 15, 2022, 04:45 PM

116. Visited Once

 

The folks at that site, they were, unique. And very opinionated. Left me uneasy. Oh well.

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Response to revmclaren (Original post)

Mon Jul 18, 2022, 04:08 PM

130. Not likely...

...they went to JPR to be able to hang out with people who agreed with them. I don't see any reason for them to come back here.

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Response to revmclaren (Original post)

Thu Aug 4, 2022, 10:53 PM

132. addendum

Last edited Thu Aug 4, 2022, 11:36 PM - Edit history (2)

When searching for an explanation of JPRs disappearance, I came across two sites labeled “JPR.build” both with the JPR logo on their homepage, the JPR slogan, etc..

Http://jpr4.JPR-build.com is one of them. It is still active, with a handful of new posts under the forum “Newest Topics.” Yet the posts are in fluent Russian and seem to be written by Russian speakers, for Russian speakers. 🤷‍♀️ I have no idea what to make of that.

As for concern that now-homeless JPR members will settle at DU and make trouble: Don’t worry too much. The site did thrive for a while but repeatedly lost big chunks of its members whenever mods tried to curtail destructive conspiracy theories. This led to rage and schisms and mass walk-outs, putting membership into steady decline. Then, with Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, the “Latest News” forum was taken over by 5-6 posters slavishly quoting Putin and cheering for the massacre of Ukrainians; this drove away the remaining sane folks. As of a month or two ago, the place was nearly dead - most posts were receiving only 40-60 views and maybe 1 response. A post on an especially popular theme (usually some variant of “Hilary Clinton is a [misogynist slur]”) would get maybe 120 views.

In other words, the only people left homeless by JPR’s demise are a few dozen lonely diehards. (This hasn’t stopped posters on similar conspiracy-loving sites from speculating that JPR is gone because the US government felt terribly threatened by it and shut it down!)


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