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Wed Jul 27, 2022, 10:20 AM

Looks like the Jan. 6 Committee is beginning to look at the Dept. of Defense.

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Hope they asked a few questions about this memo too:



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Reply Looks like the Jan. 6 Committee is beginning to look at the Dept. of Defense. (Original post)
Tomconroy Jul 2022 OP
empedocles Jul 2022 #1
agingdem Jul 2022 #2
rampartc Jul 2022 #20
agingdem Jul 2022 #24
MagickMuffin Jul 2022 #3
2naSalit Jul 2022 #5
usonian Jul 2022 #9
malaise Jul 2022 #11
pandr32 Jul 2022 #12
usonian Jul 2022 #15
pandr32 Jul 2022 #25
usonian Jul 2022 #26
halfulglas Jul 2022 #17
tavernier Jul 2022 #23
kentuck Jul 2022 #4
HuskyOffset Jul 2022 #6
jmowreader Jul 2022 #13
ashredux Jul 2022 #14
jmowreader Jul 2022 #27
ashredux Jul 2022 #29
Lonestarblue Jul 2022 #7
CaptainTruth Jul 2022 #8
LiberalLovinLug Jul 2022 #10
jaxexpat Jul 2022 #21
Botany Jul 2022 #16
halfulglas Jul 2022 #18
jaxexpat Jul 2022 #22
Martin Eden Jul 2022 #19
LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2022 #28

Response to Tomconroy (Original post)

Wed Jul 27, 2022, 10:23 AM

1. beginning to, publicly, look at DOD

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Response to Tomconroy (Original post)

Wed Jul 27, 2022, 10:32 AM

2. Miller, Cipollone...bullshit CYA word salad

until it comes down to "Did he or did he not______ (fill in the blank)...yes or no?"...and then that oath thingy kicks in...

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Response to agingdem (Reply #2)

Wed Jul 27, 2022, 12:54 PM

20. the oath thing means nothing to "conservatives/;

remember oliver north?

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Response to rampartc (Reply #20)

Wed Jul 27, 2022, 01:19 PM

24. Miller and Cipollone are not going down for Trump..

they can obfuscate but they will not lie under oath knowing their testimony is playing out in public thanks to the J6 committee hearings...and I bet there are witnesses who would put truth to their lies if in fact they plead the 5th or claim selective amnesia..

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Response to Tomconroy (Original post)

Wed Jul 27, 2022, 10:38 AM

3. J6 is leaving no Stone unturned, hopefully they'll get to the Flynn brothers



They be eye deep in the dark state!


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Response to MagickMuffin (Reply #3)

Wed Jul 27, 2022, 11:11 AM

5. That's one I'm waiting to see too.

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Response to MagickMuffin (Reply #3)

Wed Jul 27, 2022, 11:33 AM

9. The Flynn-Stones

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=16957864

Flynn-Stones
Meet the Flynn Stones
They're the modern stone-age family
From the Hotel Willard
They made plans to kill democracy

Let's ride in the limo with Mike Pence
His life isn't worth eleven cents.

When you're with the Flynn-Stones
Have a G.O.P. sedition
A great new year tradition.
We're gonna do hard time.

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Response to usonian (Reply #9)

Wed Jul 27, 2022, 11:45 AM

11. Nicely played

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Response to usonian (Reply #9)

Wed Jul 27, 2022, 11:55 AM

12. well done!

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Response to pandr32 (Reply #12)

Wed Jul 27, 2022, 12:15 PM

15. I'll make it an OP. People need some cheering up today. nt

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Response to usonian (Reply #15)

Wed Jul 27, 2022, 01:23 PM

25. Excellent

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Response to pandr32 (Reply #25)

Wed Jul 27, 2022, 01:55 PM

26. This thread is HOT. I got 4 replies here and one reply to the OP.



It's not for the fame and glory. I just want to spread the good word(s)
Mark Twain is one of my heroes.

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Response to usonian (Reply #9)

Wed Jul 27, 2022, 12:28 PM

17. Love this.

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Response to usonian (Reply #9)

Wed Jul 27, 2022, 01:07 PM

23. Clever!!!

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Response to Tomconroy (Original post)

Wed Jul 27, 2022, 10:48 AM

4. Trump thought Miller would back up his claims of having troops on standby..

The Committee just shot down his hopes.

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Response to Tomconroy (Original post)

Wed Jul 27, 2022, 11:13 AM

6. The problem TFG has in trying to lie about this

is the sheer scope of having 10,000 troops "at the ready". The number of people, from the SecDef on down to squad leaders, who would be involved in that order is HUGE. If he didn't actually give that order, it's impossible to lie about it.

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Response to HuskyOffset (Reply #6)

Wed Jul 27, 2022, 12:03 PM

13. The other problem...

National Guard troops only have police powers inside their states. The second a National Guard unit crosses the state line, itís subject to Posse Comitatus.

The DC National Guard only has 2700 members. Not only did Trump not call out 10,000 or 20,000 or whatever it is this week members of the National Guard, he didnít have that many to call out in the first place.

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Response to jmowreader (Reply #13)

Wed Jul 27, 2022, 12:07 PM

14. Not sure about that. When you're in the guard, you're in the army.

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Response to ashredux (Reply #14)

Wed Jul 27, 2022, 02:09 PM

27. Only the Guard can do policing

This is why we have both the Army Reserve and the National Guard.

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Response to jmowreader (Reply #27)

Wed Jul 27, 2022, 02:18 PM

29. Agree... but National Guard units can be Federalized and be used in other states...that was the issue

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Response to Tomconroy (Original post)

Wed Jul 27, 2022, 11:18 AM

7. If Trump had given an order to have 10,000 troops ready, it would have been to support

the insurrection, not stop it. He planned to declare martial law but had no clue about the logistics involved in doing so. Trump is too ignorant of the real world to know more than how to order someone to do things for him.

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Response to Lonestarblue (Reply #7)

Wed Jul 27, 2022, 11:33 AM

8. Bingo!

I still believe that is why Trump was taken out of the DC Guard chain of command on Jan 4, to prevent him from using the Guard to stop certification of the vote.

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Response to Lonestarblue (Reply #7)

Wed Jul 27, 2022, 11:37 AM

10. Exactly

I think there was a hairbrained scheme to use friendly allies in the military like Flynnís brother in the pentagon and others we may never know about to help Trump steal the presidency.

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Response to Lonestarblue (Reply #7)

Wed Jul 27, 2022, 12:58 PM

21. "....10,000 troops ready.... to support the insurrection, not stop it." Wow, it just hit me.

There is evidence for that somewhere. Either witness testimony or "CYA" meeting notes, but it may well come to this. An attempt to over throw the government by military coup may ultimately be the only case against Trump that CAN'T remain unprosecuted. It is perhaps a trail of clues to this "unimaginable" crime which has our Garland off beating the bushes in an apparent delay to prosecute Trump.

The whole concept that Trump would attempt to have thousands of US military personnel assigned to keep him in power is much too in-line with his modus operandi to not be true. Which means there are potentially multiple people in uniform who knew Trump was talking about a coup whose testimony hasn't, yet, been released.

This is all a great laughable theory, of course, and pretty whacky but there was a time when the very idea that an asshole like Donald Fucking Trump would be elected president of the USA was untenable for the most well informed and laughable to the rest of us.

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Response to Tomconroy (Original post)

Wed Jul 27, 2022, 12:17 PM

16. Before Miller's 1/4/21 letter to the D.C. National Guard the D.C. National Guard had the autonomy ..

.... to respond to things like the 1/6/21 attempted coup/violent attack on the US Capitol on
their own but Miller stopped that and how did Miller on 1/4/21 know to write about "riot control
agents?"

Trump fired Sec. of Defense Esper right after he lost the election and installed Miller in his stead.

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Response to Tomconroy (Original post)

Wed Jul 27, 2022, 12:37 PM

18. It could have been SO much worse if the last minute chess pieces in Defense

Installed by Trump had a lot more understanding of how their department sections actually functioned and the rules surrounding those functions. He pretty much thought those people were interchangeable.

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Response to halfulglas (Reply #18)

Wed Jul 27, 2022, 01:03 PM

22. What an odd blessing....... and from such an unexpected construct.

Our "Byzantine" and labyrinthian chain of command prevents the Commander in Chief from being able to command the army to overthrow the government. Whoddathunkit?

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Response to Tomconroy (Original post)

Wed Jul 27, 2022, 12:46 PM

19. So then, TFG made up a LIE out of whole cloth?

Is anyone surprised?

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Response to Tomconroy (Original post)

Wed Jul 27, 2022, 02:13 PM

28. TFG lied about contacting the National Guard

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