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FarPoint

(12,207 posts)
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 04:55 PM Jul 2022

Why was the White House not put on Lockdown on 1/6?

Would one not expect the White House, just up the street from the Capitol with the sitting pResident inside .... a lockdown should of been an immediate response.... I have never heard of the White House being in a lockdown by Secret Service or anyone during the insurrection...

I find this highly suspicious and odd.....To me, it is a clue right under our noses...

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Why was the White House not put on Lockdown on 1/6? (Original Post) FarPoint Jul 2022 OP
Good question. Elessar Zappa Jul 2022 #1
Why were the Capital Police told not to harm the rioters? zuul Jul 2022 #2
It's all too obvious, I guess. spanone Jul 2022 #19
The only thing Donnie did once the violence started was to eventually tell them to go home unblock Jul 2022 #3
I think.... FarPoint Jul 2022 #7
Fast Donnie probably masturbated for 3 hours watching Meadowoak Jul 2022 #18
It's the classic "the dog that didn't bark" scenario. TheBeam19 Jul 2022 #4
This👆 Roy Rolling Jul 2022 #17
How come my dog don't bark... FailureToCommunicate Jul 2022 #57
My theory is that is WAS put on lockdown blogslug Jul 2022 #5
That would have been kind of difficult TheBeam19 Jul 2022 #8
Could be blogslug Jul 2022 #13
Why Would The SS Want To Hide The Fact That The WH Was On Lockdown?.... global1 Jul 2022 #16
My theory is not great and full of flaws blogslug Jul 2022 #36
The Secret Service was in on it and knew what was going to happen. OLDMDDEM Jul 2022 #6
Not all of them - there are over 7,000 secret service agents plus trainees FakeNoose Jul 2022 #50
Exactly! WVGal1963 Jul 2022 #9
I just did a quick Google search asking if he ever was swept to the Bunker? FarPoint Jul 2022 #10
Excellent, excellent question. MerryHolidays Jul 2022 #11
Bingo.... FarPoint Jul 2022 #20
Yep! Rebl2 Jul 2022 #40
It was not locked down because there was no threat to the Whitehouse. bottomofthehill Jul 2022 #12
This is a huge tRump mistake in his crime plan... FarPoint Jul 2022 #15
He assumed the coup would succeed. unblock Jul 2022 #21
His arrogance was in full bloom... FarPoint Jul 2022 #22
Because the insurrectionists choie Jul 2022 #14
As TFG said, these were "his people!" Rhiannon12866 Jul 2022 #23
Why was tRump not whisked away to a safer location? overleft Jul 2022 #24
that question has been asked many times here. this is an even more damning question. mopinko Jul 2022 #65
Fair point, FarPoint! H2O Man Jul 2022 #25
Thank you.... FarPoint Jul 2022 #27
As a bonus response H2O Man Jul 2022 #48
My hopes indeed.... FarPoint Jul 2022 #55
I'm thinking mid-October. H2O Man Jul 2022 #56
Ahhhhh ....you did good. FarPoint Jul 2022 #60
I had recently H2O Man Jul 2022 #63
why tell me why Slammer Jul 2022 #26
Exactly.... FarPoint Jul 2022 #29
That's really not a dumb question... kentuck Jul 2022 #28
The Slobfather told us malaise Jul 2022 #30
Yeap! FarPoint Jul 2022 #31
They are going down malaise Jul 2022 #43
Because the orange monster knew the armed Insurrectionists weren't going to hurt him... Hekate Jul 2022 #32
Duh, they weren't there to hurt HIM Novara Jul 2022 #33
only the secret service knows YoshidaYui Jul 2022 #34
There will be some agents that open this door.... FarPoint Jul 2022 #38
Hopefully think4yourself Jul 2022 #58
Ohhhh FarPoint Jul 2022 #62
Because these were HIS people and he knew he would not be harmed. milestogo Jul 2022 #35
But Trump hid in a bunker when those BLM protestors doc03 Jul 2022 #37
I have Rebl2 Jul 2022 #39
Trump was very effectively removed from the Capital Grounds. gordianot Jul 2022 #41
Should have been put on "lock up" not lock down. MadMike47 Jul 2022 #42
because trump was in the WH. barbtries Jul 2022 #44
It's over a mile and a half from the Capitol to the WH. Igel Jul 2022 #45
The fact the WH wasn't on lockdown & Trump removed to a secure location dlk Jul 2022 #46
You all know the reason! BlueJac Jul 2022 #47
Bingo. The first question I had. mjvpi Jul 2022 #49
How about that? SledDriver Jul 2022 #51
And this, Is the correct answer! bottomofthehill Jul 2022 #53
Good question given many in the GOP maintained it was Antifa who were Jarqui Jul 2022 #52
This. It is the best anti-Antifa argument. intrepidity Jul 2022 #66
Absolutely! FarPoint Jul 2022 #68
Even if they didn't shut the WH mgardener Jul 2022 #54
Exactly. This should be evaluated by what measures should have been taken elias7 Jul 2022 #59
Yes, they knew he was in no danger relayerbob Jul 2022 #61
FF45 wasn't whisked to his baby bunker Blue Owl Jul 2022 #64
Kick. Nt raccoon Jul 2022 #67

zuul

(14,615 posts)
2. Why were the Capital Police told not to harm the rioters?
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 04:58 PM
Jul 2022

Where are the White House visitor logs for January 6?

Where are the missing White Houes tapes from January 6?

Where are the Secret Service texts?

Why was the White House photographer not allowed to take pictures of TFG on January 6?

unblock

(51,974 posts)
3. The only thing Donnie did once the violence started was to eventually tell them to go home
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 04:59 PM
Jul 2022

Which they did.

It's always been completely obvious that the whole thing was his ideas, his attempted coup, his attempt to assassinate pence, his attempt to subvert the constitution, his attempt to steal the election.

If this happened in any other country the media would have been completely unambiguous from the start that it was a coup attempt led by Donnie.

FarPoint

(12,207 posts)
7. I think....
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 05:05 PM
Jul 2022

maybe it would just be me....I don't know...but any other President would of gone into the bunker...

Roy Rolling

(6,853 posts)
17. This👆
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 05:17 PM
Jul 2022

Police Inspector: “there was nothing unusual about the watchdog, he was silent”
Sherlock Holmes: “that’s what was curious”.

blogslug

(37,955 posts)
5. My theory is that is WAS put on lockdown
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 05:02 PM
Jul 2022

And that's one of the things certain members of Secret Service are trying to hide.

blogslug

(37,955 posts)
13. Could be
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 05:11 PM
Jul 2022

Like I said, it's a theory for me.

Just the same, like the OP, I find it unbelievable they would not put the WH on lockdown during the insurrection.

global1

(25,167 posts)
16. Why Would The SS Want To Hide The Fact That The WH Was On Lockdown?....
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 05:14 PM
Jul 2022

I would think that they'd be proud of the fact that they ordered a lockdown to protect the president and the people in the WH.

blogslug

(37,955 posts)
36. My theory is not great and full of flaws
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 05:59 PM
Jul 2022

However, I think the SS had the WH on some kind of lockdown that day. Maybe not "get the president and his family to the safe room immediately" lockdown. More like "No, Ms. McEnany. You may not leave the premises to get something out of your car." type of lockdown.

Why would they hide it? Maybe because TFG didn't want his MAGAs to know his security would have shot them on sight if they had tried to enter the White House.

Whatever's going on with the Secret Service, it stinks right now.

FakeNoose

(32,340 posts)
50. Not all of them - there are over 7,000 secret service agents plus trainees
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 06:56 PM
Jul 2022

Only a small cadre ever got near Chump though. By the time of the coup, only about 20 agents that had access to Chump, and they all took orders from Tony Ornato who became one of Chump's key staff members.

That entire group (as far as I know) has been weeded out and either laid off or reassigned. None of that group are now protecting Biden or Harris or anyone in the White House.

I'm sure we'll find out more as the investigation continues.

WVGal1963

(144 posts)
9. Exactly!
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 05:08 PM
Jul 2022

Yes!! Exactly!! I worked in the US Senate and I have NEVER understood how the WH was not on lockdown and our then president secured.

FarPoint

(12,207 posts)
10. I just did a quick Google search asking if he ever was swept to the Bunker?
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 05:08 PM
Jul 2022

He sure was with the family in 2020 during the Summer Protests...

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/03/politics/donald-trump-bunker-secret-service-protests/index.html


snip>


Here’s how CNN reported it:

“As protesters gathered outside the White House Friday night in Washington, DC, President Donald Trump was briefly taken to the underground bunker for a period of time, according to a White House official and a law enforcement source.

“The President was there for a little under an hour before being brought upstairs.

“A law enforcement source and another source familiar with the matter tell CNN that first lady Melania Trump and their son, Barron, were also taken to the bunker....> end

MerryHolidays

(7,715 posts)
11. Excellent, excellent question.
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 05:08 PM
Jul 2022

I raised the issue on DU about the Senate calling the Secret Service in to testify before the impeachment conviction trial in early 2021, but a lot of folks shot me down.

Good heavens: Kenneth Starr called so many SS agents in during the Lewinsky investigation into President Clinton. They even called in the President's valet.

I am not sure why the Senate didn't do that during the impeachment trial. They could have gotten these people locked into testimony very early on, in an impeachment that was squarely directed at Trump's involvement in the January 6 insurrection.

Remember on September 11, 2001. VP Cheney was taken to a bunker after the attacks, and W was flown all over the middle of the US, as the SS refused to take him back to DC/the White House.

And on J6, the VP was under direct attack! And they didn't take Trump to at least the White House bunker??? Right.

I guess the 2022 version of the famous Watergate question would be as follows: "What did the Secret Service know about the insurrection, and when did they know it?"

FarPoint

(12,207 posts)
20. Bingo....
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 05:24 PM
Jul 2022

This is another " right under our noses clue" just like the fact he did NOTHING but talk on his phone and watch Fox Propaganda News for 3 hours...

Clues are also significant regarding what DID NOT HAPPEN....

bottomofthehill

(8,261 posts)
12. It was not locked down because there was no threat to the Whitehouse.
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 05:09 PM
Jul 2022

The president knew there was no threat, the Secret Service knew there was no threat, the National Security Council knew there was no threat. The threat was by the Trump supporters at the Capitol, there was no threat to the Whitehouse, thus no need to lock it down.

FarPoint

(12,207 posts)
15. This is a huge tRump mistake in his crime plan...
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 05:13 PM
Jul 2022

He didn't need to be taken to the Bunker because the Capitol riot was his inception.

unblock

(51,974 posts)
21. He assumed the coup would succeed.
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 05:34 PM
Jul 2022

He's incapable of making a plan B because that would require contemplating failure.

mopinko

(69,805 posts)
65. that question has been asked many times here. this is an even more damning question.
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 02:40 PM
Jul 2022

that was said almost from day 1, and proof enough for a sane person to see it was an inside job.
this, tho....

H2O Man

(73,308 posts)
48. As a bonus response
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 06:43 PM
Jul 2022

to an OP/thread I'm really enjoying today, I will predict that John Eastman will have accepted a deal with the DOJ by mid-fall.

H2O Man

(73,308 posts)
56. I'm thinking mid-October.
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 07:29 PM
Jul 2022

But any time before the mid-terms works just fine.


I got some good work accomplished today for the congressional candidate that I'm volunteering for. We had some much-needed rain, along with strong winds. That gave me excuse to use the telephone and computer, rather than work on the garden and lawn. I did get soaked feeding the outside beings, though.

FarPoint

(12,207 posts)
60. Ahhhhh ....you did good.
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 07:44 PM
Jul 2022

Relaxing and productive....I myself had a lazy day....no clients to see or infuse... I cooked down some tomatoes from the garden, Roma tomatoes, and will make basic tomato sauce to can tomorrow. I actually have another day off..

Thus, I had time to ponder on this WH/ security question...

H2O Man

(73,308 posts)
63. I had recently
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 08:50 PM
Jul 2022

acquired a large collection of artifacts from upstate NY. I used to see the collector out in the fields. His widow recognized that they have more value than money ..... they help document 12,000 years of human history. She didn't want the collection split up, or leaving the area. She knew I had a good collection, including several sections of other local collections, and that my son will carry on after I'm gone (and his son after him). So I also spent time looking closer at many of the "new" ones.

Slammer

(714 posts)
26. why tell me why
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 05:45 PM
Jul 2022

Why would they lock down the White House? The insurrectionists were his people.

Also, the White House wasn't open for tours either. So the difference between locked down or not would be very subtle compared to what would be happening if they were expelling tourists.

About the only thing we'd get reports of is a further restriction of the movement of reporters inside the White House. And honestly, I don't recall any reporters saying, "I was inside the White House while this was happening."

FarPoint

(12,207 posts)
29. Exactly....
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 05:48 PM
Jul 2022

This becomes a HUGE clue to his involvement....as well as Secret Service and his WH Administration...

kentuck

(110,950 posts)
28. That's really not a dumb question...
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 05:46 PM
Jul 2022

It begs for an answer from every Republican.

They all know why.

FarPoint

(12,207 posts)
31. Yeap!
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 05:52 PM
Jul 2022

I sense the 1/6 Committe has this in their plan of evidence, and I bet so does the DOJ..... tRump and the minions can't cover up this mega detail...Can't fix or lie about this now...

Especially when tRump has history of being swept off to the Bunker with family at the WH during the street protests of Summer 2020... The Summer 2020 Protests were essentially legal.....and he was in fear then but not when a full blown assault on the Capitol and the VP....just down the street.

Hekate

(90,189 posts)
32. Because the orange monster knew the armed Insurrectionists weren't going to hurt him...
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 05:53 PM
Jul 2022

Murder everybody else maybe, especially the two in the line of succession, but not himself.


FarPoint

(12,207 posts)
38. There will be some agents that open this door....
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 06:03 PM
Jul 2022

Secret Service Agents will come forward I believe....call me delusional but I sense this will happen ...

doc03

(35,148 posts)
37. But Trump hid in a bunker when those BLM protestors
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 06:01 PM
Jul 2022

were in DC. He said it himself they are no threat to me and the SS knew that. I think there were traitors in Trump's SS
team.

Rebl2

(13,303 posts)
39. I have
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 06:06 PM
Jul 2022

thought about that too. They would normally hustle the president to safety I would think even if the problem was at the Capital. Sounds fishy to me.

gordianot

(15,226 posts)
41. Trump was very effectively removed from the Capital Grounds.
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 06:17 PM
Jul 2022

This was against his will and there are some reports he got into a physical confrontation with the Secret Service Agents in his detail. These agents have retained legal council and have apparently scrubbed text messages and possibly other communication. Apparently the Secret Service in Pence’s detail was in fear for their lives.

barbtries

(28,702 posts)
44. because trump was in the WH.
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 06:32 PM
Jul 2022

on the day, nobody thought the insurrectionists were fans of anyone but trump. he'd already thrown a fit because they weren't letting armed people into his "rally."

no need to lock down the WH.

Igel

(35,191 posts)
45. It's over a mile and a half from the Capitol to the WH.
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 06:34 PM
Jul 2022

It takes 5 minutes to lock down, would have taken 20 minutes for the protestors to get there on foot. By car? 12 minutes, but that's assuming they were already in cars; to get to the cars, drive, park or crash them into a giant heap and walk to the WH ... Probably back to at least 20 minutes.

Strikes me as not doing something that probably wasn't considered urgent.

As for the protest out in front of the WH, that was right in front of the WH. Jump the fence, be inside in 3 minutes.

dlk

(11,432 posts)
46. The fact the WH wasn't on lockdown & Trump removed to a secure location
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 06:34 PM
Jul 2022

When there were terrorists armed with assault weapons in the trees outside of the capital while more terrorists were storming the capital, is a tell. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure it out.

mjvpi

(1,384 posts)
49. Bingo. The first question I had.
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 06:53 PM
Jul 2022

If our Capital is under attack with most of the elected order of succession in that building, why wasn’t the president taken to an undisclosed location?

Jarqui

(10,110 posts)
52. Good question given many in the GOP maintained it was Antifa who were
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 07:04 PM
Jul 2022

attacking the Capitol.

I guess that's why Trump urged the removal of the magnetometers ... so Antifa could run loose with their weapons ....

intrepidity

(7,241 posts)
66. This. It is the best anti-Antifa argument.
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 03:08 PM
Jul 2022

Raise it to *anyone* asserting that J6 was an "Antifa Operation" -- or anyone claiming that's what Donald thought.

FarPoint

(12,207 posts)
68. Absolutely!
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 05:20 PM
Jul 2022

It is basic standard protocol lockdown in such a situation and place President in Bunker....they, the tRump minions missed this essential detail....everyone in the WH/ staff etc were being conducting business as usual regarding security level anyway...

The fact that they did not secure the President when the threat level was near " Red Alert" level is telling....

elias7

(3,976 posts)
59. Exactly. This should be evaluated by what measures should have been taken
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 07:44 PM
Jul 2022

…in a similar circumstance. IOW, what would a president have done if he/she did feel a threat.

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