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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe FBI said they had already gone thru the boxes of documents that were seized August 8th...
They wanted Trump's Judge to know that there really was no need for a Special Master to look over the files. The job has already been done. Trump should have asked a little sooner.
But, if they have finished looking at all the documents, what do you think they have found?
Judging from the behavior of Donald Trump in the last couple of days, it must have been devastating? What was in his "safe"? What was in the box that was in his "closet" in his office? (Was it something he was recently working on?)
Trump looks very worried. He is trying to call his cult to march in the streets but no one seems to be listening. He is beginning to look desperate.
When will we know what was in these latest boxes from Mar-a-lago?
Irish_Dem
(45,657 posts)Something is not going the way he had hoped.
kentuck
(110,950 posts)...he does crazy shit. (Like January 6th)
But, he always gets someone else to do his dirty work.
Irish_Dem
(45,657 posts)Calling on his cult followers to do violence sounds like he feels cornered or trapped.
Yes he will make others do his violent bidding.
NCDem47
(2,238 posts)Has anyone yet come to his rescue on this? Sure, some weirdos showed up at MAL after the initial search and Lindsey Graham threw some sounbytes out there, but no real groundswell of support. No J6 type of boiling over from MAGATS (that he covets and C-R-A-V-E-S). HE...IS...NOT the current sitting U.S. President. He's discovering some hard truths that the rules are different on the outside. His ONLY protection is to get back in office or stack the systen with sympathizers.
Irish_Dem
(45,657 posts)NCDem47
(2,238 posts)But would they to any effect?? Looks like his personal army is letting him down and it is freaking him out.
kentuck
(110,950 posts)Where are all the people that showed up on January 6th?
Don't they want to help him protect all the stolen documents so he can sell the information and make a lot of money?
Irish_Dem
(45,657 posts)He can't understand why they won't protect him like they did on 1/6.
At first I thought Trump was ratcheting up his rhetoric in a game with Garland, to back him down.
But now I am wondering if Trump is getting desperate to fire up his lackluster cult.
Maybe some of both.
Irish_Dem
(45,657 posts)getagrip_already
(14,254 posts)They clearly did something, as evidenced by the search.
Now, even more ample evidence exists. What will they do?
Irish_Dem
(45,657 posts)But yes the DOJ has not yet acted on the evidence obtained in the raid.
We don't know what the DOJ will do.
mitch96
(13,822 posts)Irish_Dem
(45,657 posts)mitch96
(13,822 posts)Send people to an address with bullhorns and SWATTING the people they want to harass.
For me the big question is will they bleed for TFG?
Will they get up close and personal?
Getting shot hurts..
Lose a leg/arm? Brain damage and drooling into your beard? Wheel chair for life?
How about a colostomy bag?
Oooo how about shrapnel to the balls and lose your manhood?
Who will change your diapers?
Cosplaying soldier is fun but the real deal is terrifying...YMMV
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Irish_Dem
(45,657 posts)Begging for leniency.
Right, many of these gun idiots are cowards. The guys who shoot up 6 yrs olds in school, or grandmas at church, are wearing full tactical protective gear, overarmed and carrying 100's of bullets. Real brave dudes.
Then shoot themselves because they can't face jail for their crime.
Action movies and video games are all fun and games.
But real life war is horrific and brutal.
Ask the guys who fought at Guadalcanal or Okinawa.
I remember some of the guys who came home from Viet Nam, and it was a soul crushing tragedy.
mitch96
(13,822 posts)Same here, my generation. Lost a few that I graduated HS with. Some who saw combat were touched for life. Some made it home but horrors followed them and they ended it.. So sad..
I still think we should have the people who promote war as an answer, the politicians, let them duke it out. Then let us know who won..
I guess if the politicians have to fight, their will be no fight...
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Irish_Dem
(45,657 posts)They stay behind in their penthouses and mansions.
It should be like the 9th century where the kings led the battle.
Made them think things through a bit first.
mitch96
(13,822 posts)Let the people who make the policy fight.
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Irish_Dem
(45,657 posts)Lonestarblue
(9,880 posts)having second thoughts about the consequences of rioting in the streets. This time the National Guard wont be stopped from reacting for hours, though Republican governors may choose to do nothing because theyd rather blame the Biden administration for their riots.
Irish_Dem
(45,657 posts)The insurrectionists crying in front of judges may be a deterrent. And yes hopefully the authorities will not delay this time.
But yes the GOP governors will not stop the cult members, in fact encourage it. Hopefully that will backfire.
housecat
(3,121 posts)gab13by13
(20,876 posts)I really don't care to know the specifics, I just want to see an indictment.
Trump will never be prosecuted regarding the most top secret documents, the information needs to remain a secret and it would be too difficult to hold a trial.
Mr.Bill
(24,104 posts)from suicide.
gab13by13
(20,876 posts)but how would we know, unless he vegetated. The nursing home would have to put his Big Macs in a blender.
Joinfortmill
(14,247 posts)Johonny
(20,685 posts)A) Hope judge forces a special master whom might force the FBI to omit certain evidence
B) Claim at trial all the evidence isn't admissible because of lack of special master/ didn't wait for judge ruling. As we've seen in other trials, GOPers sometimes get away with BS with certain friendly judges.
C) This is just a delay tactic with the idea the longer no charges are files, the more likely Trump walks away yet again.
DallasNE
(7,392 posts)And that is Trump's whole purpose. The FBI has previously said they would be fingerprinting every classified document. The Special Master, handling the cocuments, would add their own fingerprints and smear other fingerprints. Since this is a criminal probe that would amount to obstruction of justice. Why is this Judge considering such a move?
Joinfortmill
(14,247 posts)Alwaysna
(574 posts)Joinfortmill
(14,247 posts)SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Iggo
(47,489 posts)Thats kind of the whole point.
EndlessWire
(6,377 posts)a complete listing of all the docs. I think they have to give at least a list of all the titles. Without the issue of the Judge's security clearance, I wonder if she will turn pale when she realizes what Trump did. None of this is being faked, IMO. NARA wasn't kidding. This may straighten the Judge up and get her to think a little more clearly.
Hey, she's already a Judge. She's there and doesn't owe the Orange Turd a thing. Time to work for the People.
Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)They're all up in arms that an FBI agent tasked with investigating HB was apparently let go last week, and they're crying conspiracy and what about and everything except WHAT THE HELL WAS IN TRUMP'S SAFE THAT PUT THE USA IN DANGER?
EndlessWire
(6,377 posts)Do you think that they photographed the passports before returning them?
wishstar
(5,267 posts)Trump requested that she order halt to DOJ's review until after Special Master was appointed and completed review, but she has not granted that request thankfully. Holding up DOJ's ability to review and investigate the classified docs seems nuts in light of national security considerations involved with the government documents that he had no right to keep.
EndlessWire
(6,377 posts)to assess the potential damage if the docs got/have gotten out. So, they HAVE TO VIEW the docs, and she can't stop that, anyway. One way or another, she can't stop that.