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kentuck

(110,950 posts)
Tue Aug 30, 2022, 09:30 AM Aug 2022

The FBI said they had already gone thru the boxes of documents that were seized August 8th...

They wanted Trump's Judge to know that there really was no need for a Special Master to look over the files. The job has already been done. Trump should have asked a little sooner.

But, if they have finished looking at all the documents, what do you think they have found?
Judging from the behavior of Donald Trump in the last couple of days, it must have been devastating? What was in his "safe"? What was in the box that was in his "closet" in his office? (Was it something he was recently working on?)

Trump looks very worried. He is trying to call his cult to march in the streets but no one seems to be listening. He is beginning to look desperate.

When will we know what was in these latest boxes from Mar-a-lago?

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The FBI said they had already gone thru the boxes of documents that were seized August 8th... (Original Post) kentuck Aug 2022 OP
I agree, Trump is acting more crazy than usual. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #1
And when he's desperate... kentuck Aug 2022 #2
Narcissistic sociopaths can act out violently when cornered. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #4
At the end of the day... NCDem47 Aug 2022 #3
Maybe one reason he is escalating, his cult followers are not obeying his commands. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #5
He is thisclose to outright calling for supporters to fill the streets. NCDem47 Aug 2022 #6
It must be very disappointing for him? kentuck Aug 2022 #7
Yes if his cult does nothing, he will be quite upset and get more and more angry. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #9
At this point we don't know what they will do. But for now, they are doing nothing. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #8
Well, to this point they have done nothing in terms of indictments when ample evidence exists..... getagrip_already Aug 2022 #10
I meant the cult is doing nothing at this point. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #12
HIs cult likes soft targets they can harass. Go any higher and those people shoot back...nt mitch96 Aug 2022 #11
Good point. Maybe the cult followers are cowards when push comes to shove. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #13
It's easy for some guy in his mom's basement to do a little dark web surfing and dox people mitch96 Aug 2022 #14
Many of the rough, tough insurrectionists ended up crying like babies in front of a judge. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #21
"I remember some of the guys who came home from Viet Nam it was a soul crushing tragedy." mitch96 Aug 2022 #31
The rich and powerful always send others into battle. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #32
+1 As the military strategist Clausewitz stated, "war as the continuation of policy by other means" mitch96 Aug 2022 #33
Exactly. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #34
Maybe the cult is seeing jail sentences of four years or more for Jan. 6 insurrectionists and Lonestarblue Aug 2022 #19
Good points. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #22
And what was in the grave. housecat Aug 2022 #15
It's classified, so we won't know much. gab13by13 Aug 2022 #16
Hopefully one step away Mr.Bill Aug 2022 #17
Nervous breakdown is on the table, gab13by13 Aug 2022 #18
Nah, too chicken shit. Joinfortmill Aug 2022 #27
I assume this is all to prepare a future defense Johonny Aug 2022 #20
Special Master Only Gums Up The Works DallasNE Aug 2022 #23
I think she is Trump appointed. Joinfortmill Aug 2022 #26
He could offer to pay any rioter's legal fees. Hee hee Alwaysna Aug 2022 #24
TickTock you corrupt, treasonous, pig of a man. Joinfortmill Aug 2022 #25
AG Garland is playing 4D chess SheltieLover Aug 2022 #28
Classified. Top secret. You and I are never going to see what's in those boxes. Iggo Aug 2022 #29
Cannon asked for EndlessWire Aug 2022 #36
Meanwhile, in Freeperland, none of this is mentioned, but boy, Hunter Biden is a hot button issue Mr. Ected Aug 2022 #30
Speaking of passports... EndlessWire Aug 2022 #37
At least his Judge hasn't stopped DOJ review of docs as Trump's lawyers had requested wishstar Aug 2022 #35
Justice has a mandated role EndlessWire Aug 2022 #38

kentuck

(110,950 posts)
2. And when he's desperate...
Tue Aug 30, 2022, 09:43 AM
Aug 2022

...he does crazy shit. (Like January 6th)

But, he always gets someone else to do his dirty work.

Irish_Dem

(45,657 posts)
4. Narcissistic sociopaths can act out violently when cornered.
Tue Aug 30, 2022, 09:45 AM
Aug 2022

Calling on his cult followers to do violence sounds like he feels cornered or trapped.

Yes he will make others do his violent bidding.

NCDem47

(2,238 posts)
3. At the end of the day...
Tue Aug 30, 2022, 09:45 AM
Aug 2022

Has anyone yet come to his rescue on this? Sure, some weirdos showed up at MAL after the initial search and Lindsey Graham threw some sounbytes out there, but no real groundswell of support. No J6 type of boiling over from MAGATS (that he covets and C-R-A-V-E-S). HE...IS...NOT the current sitting U.S. President. He's discovering some hard truths that the rules are different on the outside. His ONLY protection is to get back in office or stack the systen with sympathizers.

NCDem47

(2,238 posts)
6. He is thisclose to outright calling for supporters to fill the streets.
Tue Aug 30, 2022, 09:49 AM
Aug 2022

But would they to any effect?? Looks like his personal army is letting him down and it is freaking him out.

kentuck

(110,950 posts)
7. It must be very disappointing for him?
Tue Aug 30, 2022, 09:53 AM
Aug 2022

Where are all the people that showed up on January 6th?

Don't they want to help him protect all the stolen documents so he can sell the information and make a lot of money?

Irish_Dem

(45,657 posts)
9. Yes if his cult does nothing, he will be quite upset and get more and more angry.
Tue Aug 30, 2022, 10:35 AM
Aug 2022

He can't understand why they won't protect him like they did on 1/6.

At first I thought Trump was ratcheting up his rhetoric in a game with Garland, to back him down.

But now I am wondering if Trump is getting desperate to fire up his lackluster cult.

Maybe some of both.

getagrip_already

(14,254 posts)
10. Well, to this point they have done nothing in terms of indictments when ample evidence exists.....
Tue Aug 30, 2022, 10:48 AM
Aug 2022

They clearly did something, as evidenced by the search.

Now, even more ample evidence exists. What will they do?

Irish_Dem

(45,657 posts)
12. I meant the cult is doing nothing at this point.
Tue Aug 30, 2022, 10:57 AM
Aug 2022

But yes the DOJ has not yet acted on the evidence obtained in the raid.

We don't know what the DOJ will do.

mitch96

(13,822 posts)
14. It's easy for some guy in his mom's basement to do a little dark web surfing and dox people
Tue Aug 30, 2022, 11:10 AM
Aug 2022

Send people to an address with bullhorns and SWATTING the people they want to harass.
For me the big question is will they bleed for TFG?
Will they get up close and personal?
Getting shot hurts..
Lose a leg/arm? Brain damage and drooling into your beard? Wheel chair for life?
How about a colostomy bag?
Oooo how about shrapnel to the balls and lose your manhood?
Who will change your diapers?
Cosplaying soldier is fun but the real deal is terrifying...YMMV
m

Irish_Dem

(45,657 posts)
21. Many of the rough, tough insurrectionists ended up crying like babies in front of a judge.
Tue Aug 30, 2022, 12:06 PM
Aug 2022

Begging for leniency.

Right, many of these gun idiots are cowards. The guys who shoot up 6 yrs olds in school, or grandmas at church, are wearing full tactical protective gear, overarmed and carrying 100's of bullets. Real brave dudes.
Then shoot themselves because they can't face jail for their crime.

Action movies and video games are all fun and games.

But real life war is horrific and brutal.

Ask the guys who fought at Guadalcanal or Okinawa.

I remember some of the guys who came home from Viet Nam, and it was a soul crushing tragedy.


mitch96

(13,822 posts)
31. "I remember some of the guys who came home from Viet Nam it was a soul crushing tragedy."
Tue Aug 30, 2022, 02:12 PM
Aug 2022

Same here, my generation. Lost a few that I graduated HS with. Some who saw combat were touched for life. Some made it home but horrors followed them and they ended it.. So sad..
I still think we should have the people who promote war as an answer, the politicians, let them duke it out. Then let us know who won..
I guess if the politicians have to fight, their will be no fight...
m

Irish_Dem

(45,657 posts)
32. The rich and powerful always send others into battle.
Tue Aug 30, 2022, 02:17 PM
Aug 2022

They stay behind in their penthouses and mansions.

It should be like the 9th century where the kings led the battle.
Made them think things through a bit first.

mitch96

(13,822 posts)
33. +1 As the military strategist Clausewitz stated, "war as the continuation of policy by other means"
Tue Aug 30, 2022, 02:23 PM
Aug 2022

Let the people who make the policy fight.
m

Lonestarblue

(9,880 posts)
19. Maybe the cult is seeing jail sentences of four years or more for Jan. 6 insurrectionists and
Tue Aug 30, 2022, 11:51 AM
Aug 2022

having second thoughts about the consequences of rioting in the streets. This time the National Guard won’t be stopped from reacting for hours, though Republican governors may choose to do nothing because they’d rather blame the Biden administration for their riots.

Irish_Dem

(45,657 posts)
22. Good points.
Tue Aug 30, 2022, 12:10 PM
Aug 2022

The insurrectionists crying in front of judges may be a deterrent. And yes hopefully the authorities will not delay this time.

But yes the GOP governors will not stop the cult members, in fact encourage it. Hopefully that will backfire.

gab13by13

(20,876 posts)
16. It's classified, so we won't know much.
Tue Aug 30, 2022, 11:26 AM
Aug 2022

I really don't care to know the specifics, I just want to see an indictment.

Trump will never be prosecuted regarding the most top secret documents, the information needs to remain a secret and it would be too difficult to hold a trial.

gab13by13

(20,876 posts)
18. Nervous breakdown is on the table,
Tue Aug 30, 2022, 11:45 AM
Aug 2022

but how would we know, unless he vegetated. The nursing home would have to put his Big Macs in a blender.

Johonny

(20,685 posts)
20. I assume this is all to prepare a future defense
Tue Aug 30, 2022, 11:58 AM
Aug 2022

A) Hope judge forces a special master whom might force the FBI to omit certain evidence

B) Claim at trial all the evidence isn't admissible because of lack of special master/ didn't wait for judge ruling. As we've seen in other trials, GOPers sometimes get away with BS with certain friendly judges.

C) This is just a delay tactic with the idea the longer no charges are files, the more likely Trump walks away yet again.

DallasNE

(7,392 posts)
23. Special Master Only Gums Up The Works
Tue Aug 30, 2022, 12:13 PM
Aug 2022

And that is Trump's whole purpose. The FBI has previously said they would be fingerprinting every classified document. The Special Master, handling the cocuments, would add their own fingerprints and smear other fingerprints. Since this is a criminal probe that would amount to obstruction of justice. Why is this Judge considering such a move?

Iggo

(47,489 posts)
29. Classified. Top secret. You and I are never going to see what's in those boxes.
Tue Aug 30, 2022, 12:28 PM
Aug 2022

That’s kind of the whole point.

EndlessWire

(6,377 posts)
36. Cannon asked for
Tue Aug 30, 2022, 03:10 PM
Aug 2022

a complete listing of all the docs. I think they have to give at least a list of all the titles. Without the issue of the Judge's security clearance, I wonder if she will turn pale when she realizes what Trump did. None of this is being faked, IMO. NARA wasn't kidding. This may straighten the Judge up and get her to think a little more clearly.

Hey, she's already a Judge. She's there and doesn't owe the Orange Turd a thing. Time to work for the People.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
30. Meanwhile, in Freeperland, none of this is mentioned, but boy, Hunter Biden is a hot button issue
Tue Aug 30, 2022, 12:28 PM
Aug 2022

They're all up in arms that an FBI agent tasked with investigating HB was apparently let go last week, and they're crying conspiracy and what about and everything except WHAT THE HELL WAS IN TRUMP'S SAFE THAT PUT THE USA IN DANGER?

wishstar

(5,267 posts)
35. At least his Judge hasn't stopped DOJ review of docs as Trump's lawyers had requested
Tue Aug 30, 2022, 02:41 PM
Aug 2022

Trump requested that she order halt to DOJ's review until after Special Master was appointed and completed review, but she has not granted that request thankfully. Holding up DOJ's ability to review and investigate the classified docs seems nuts in light of national security considerations involved with the government documents that he had no right to keep.

EndlessWire

(6,377 posts)
38. Justice has a mandated role
Tue Aug 30, 2022, 03:14 PM
Aug 2022

to assess the potential damage if the docs got/have gotten out. So, they HAVE TO VIEW the docs, and she can't stop that, anyway. One way or another, she can't stop that.

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