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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDonald Trump is the most dangerous person since Adolph Hitler.
He may well be even more dangerous if he somehow manages to get elected POTUS again. Hell destroy all remaining mores and traditions in the political arena and if theres not a law somehow enacted preventing it; Trump will do it.
Shit, he might do it anyway even if there is a law against it and end up getting away with it.
He certainly Nazified the GOP successfully and they trip all over themselves trying to please the orange menace and gain his favor. Watch that judge in Florida rule that Trump certainly does have executive privilege since Biden isnt the real President.

Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)JohnSJ
(90,590 posts)made that clear
JanMichael
(24,714 posts)Then maybe of course Putin is winning the crazy fucking lunatic furher game for now.
Trumpy is an amateur compared to the above nuts post WWII.
I the US maybe but Hitler thus WWII was mentioned. FDR wasn't the problem.
PatSeg
(46,002 posts)I would Putin more in the Hitler category than Trump, though I consider Trump to be extremely dangerous to democracy.
Justice matters.
(6,676 posts)2. Pol Pot didn't have 24/7 HD cable networks catapulting Fascist propaganda aimed to install him and his crooked family as the new "royal-family-dynasty" of the Divided States for many millions of dollars in ads revenue (nothing else matter for the Australian-bastards-originated Murdochs).
JanMichael
(24,714 posts)jimfields33
(14,648 posts)The media and social media write about him numerous times a day. You cant go to any platform and not see hundreds of threads. I dont understand why everyone talks about him. I think a better strategy is to ignore him. I mean seriously do we care that he goes to DC on occasions? Its just so strange the attention he gets. Hes been gone for two years but you never know it.
TigressDem
(5,067 posts)The Eleventh Circuit Court of Appeals has quickly responded over the weekend to the Department of Justices Motion for Partial Stay Pending Appeal and Ordered Trump to Respond to the Motion by Tuesday. The Department of Justice has argued the 100 classified records should not be subject to the special master process and Judge Cannons Order should not include those records.
Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)They haven't made any decision yet.
TigressDem
(5,067 posts)tRump has not actually said he owns the Top Secret Docs.
They are pushing him to make some reason to keep these.
He lies he loses.
He doesn't have a reason to keep top secret docs.... then they go back to DOJ.
paleotn
(17,287 posts)on Donnie's legal team to come up with better half ass excuses. This usually plays out over a much longer length of time.
DallasNE
(7,360 posts)Trump lawyers have until Tuesday noon to respond to the DOJ stay request on th classified documents. The 11th Circuit will then issue a ruling on whether to grant the stay. If they grant the stay Trump could then appeal to SCOTUS., which could lift the stay pending a ruling. Their next session starts in October so this could delay a decision until after the November election.
TigressDem
(5,067 posts)BUT if we can just get the Top Secret Documents out of the deal and then the investigation continues, it is worth a try.
It's a clear and definitive choice that gives both the 11th and SCOTUS an out of supporting what tRump SAYS he is asking for without giving him what isn't his in the first place. Executive Privilege after losing the election.
Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)problem is Loose Cannon probably has to sign off on that. Have to see if she makes up more bee ess to cover for the Pig again.
DallasNE
(7,360 posts)Including the classified documents that the DOJ needs for its criminal probe, effectively obstructing justice.
Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)DallasNE
(7,360 posts)My point was that the DOJ has not yet turned over the 100 classified documents so Dearie currently has no access.
paleotn
(17,287 posts)If not, that's a violation of federal law in itself. And where are the documents physically right now? I doubt DOJ just handed them over as soon as loose cannon ruled.
Wibly
(613 posts)It has simply directed Trump to respond by Tuesday. It has not addressed the issue contained in the DOJ appeal.
Please leave the hyperbole to the GOP.
All it does is make this poster look like a click baiter, and it also makes the Dem side look stupid thinking a court directive is somehow a response to a complaint.
Justice matters.
(6,676 posts)The matter is too dangerous to the National Security to sit on their asses. The case could imply real human lives and numerous damages to our Intelligence sources (allied countries are discussing to stop sharing their intel with the US if the traitor's Fascist menace is not contained and if he runs for office with the republiQan states legislatures intents to throw out the results of the 2024 election if they don't like them by selecting their own EC republiQan voters to the NARA).
They KNOW the Rule of Law and the stakes are way to high to sit on their asses. Human-resources and terrorist threats are on the line here!
If they reacted THAT fast, maybe they will allow the DOJ+IC to resume their investigation that Qannon hack halted.
Turbineguy
(36,584 posts)Knowledge of how things looked in 1945.
And then came the Nuremburg Trials.
Mme. Defarge
(7,877 posts)Excerpts from this article in the 9/22/22 issue of the New York Review of Books.
The Partys Over
Fintan OToole
Truss will take the Tories further down the only path that is open to them, that of anarcho-authoritarianism. Like Johnson, she projects herself as a rebel against authority: I hated being told what to do and that has driven my political philosophy. She put forward the legislation that allows British government ministers to break international law by tearing up the Northern Ireland protocol. She has indicated her willingness to withdraw the UK from the European Convention on Human Rights.
This outlawry is underpinned by the language of piracy. A chapter in Britannia Unchained, a 2012 book cowritten by Truss and other rising Conservative politicians, is titled Buccaneers and quotes Steve Jobs approvingly: Its more fun to be a pirate than to join the navy. It concedes, with evident reluctance, that law and order are on the whole beneficial. But it hankers after an ideal of capitalism as chaos, the magic that happens when nearly all societys strictures are relaxed. Hence the claim by Trusss supporter David Frost, who led negotiations of the Brexit deal with the EU and is widely expected to have an important role in a Truss administration, that what needs to be done [by the new prime minister] will be turbulent and disruptive.
This promise of disruption is all that remains of Brexit. It can function now only as a fantasy of liberation, not from Brussels but from all restraint on the making of money. Trusss language evokes a Britain whose only real problem is that its natural exuberance has been constrained by regulation. Hence the recurrence in her rhetoric of unchain, unleash, unshackle. But, as in current US conservatism, these images of freedom must go hand in hand with their opposite. When she is not talking of unshackling everything, Truss is promising to crack down on everything. The chains that are to be taken off the moneymakers will be clamped on much of civil society.
In her speeches, and in the way they are reported by her fans in the Tory press, she has promised, so far, to crack down on militant trade unions, on civil servants who are working from home, on Chinese companies like TikTok, on onshore renewable energy projects, on unfair protests by climate activists, on antisocial behavior, on illegal migration, and on the excessive caution of financial regulators. She is even promising to repress criticism of the dire condition of post-Brexit Britain, warning the democratically elected first minister of the devolved administration in Wales that I will crack down on his negativity about Wales and about the United Kingdom. In the pantomimes, it is customary for the audience to cry out against certain assertions made by the characters: Oh, no, it isnt. In this next version of the show, those who dare to make that call will be ejected from the theater.
peppertree
(21,090 posts)In other words, she's an overgrown child.
I didn't realize she had that problem - she comes off more like an embittered, vindictive old maid.
Growing up in Mississippi, they were everywhere.
98% Republican, of course. They went to church on Sunday - and then got busy plotting against others on Monday.
Malice and revenge were the only two things that seemed to give their lives any meaning.
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FoxNewsSucks
(10,271 posts)And it seems that while most of our elected Democrats realize it also, too many don't realize or underestimate the determination of the fascists to seize and keep power.
Joinfortmill
(13,289 posts)peppertree
(21,090 posts)Just as craven, shameless and egomaniacal - but younger.
DFW
(53,079 posts)If Fox Noise and the Wall Street Journal decide to pretend he doesn't exist any more, then he ceases to exist. They'll find another figurehead, DeSade, Haley, Cruz-you-lose, it doesn't matter.
Justice matters.
(6,676 posts)And now, near three decades later, they have competitors (who also want to line their Fascist pockets) on cable.
Not to diminish the daily doses of hate-radio catapults who also want to line their own pockets (and do) role.
oldsoftie
(11,970 posts)Kaleva
(35,800 posts)Recency bias and poor education are a hell of a combo.
Kaleva
(35,800 posts)oldsoftie
(11,970 posts)Stalin & Mao hid a lot of their killing since they ran a closed society.
We see Putin being exposed in real time because of the internet
Kaleva
(35,800 posts)Kaleva
(35,800 posts)The most dangerous man since Hitler warrants more then some posts on a internet discussion board I would think. Unless he actually isn't anywhere the most dangerous man since Hitler.
Jarqui
(9,784 posts)DeSantis - who is far more dangerous than Trump.
kentuck
(110,656 posts)...comes along every two or three generations. We were lucky. We get two. Putin and Trump.
triron
(21,586 posts)Initech
(99,221 posts)And he'll have Fox News, the Christian right, AM talk radio, and social media propaganda cheering on his every move.