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This MAGAT that attacked Nancy Pelosi's husband meant to bash in the skull of Speaker Pelosi.
This was assassination attempt on the Speaker of the House and #2 in line to the Presidency.
Cobalt Violet
(9,905 posts)And the republicans are running attack adds against her.
republianmushroom
(13,061 posts)Ford_Prefect
(7,828 posts)Karl Rove warned them it was a bridge too far and they called him a weakling because of that.
riversedge
(69,727 posts)is probably still circulating on the net??
Ford_Prefect
(7,828 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(48,789 posts)Delphinus
(11,808 posts)thought of it that way - thank you.
malaise
(267,823 posts)Rec
mobeau69
(11,079 posts)TheRealNorth
(9,435 posts)Stuart G
(38,365 posts)keithbvadu2
(36,369 posts)Remember the Jan 6 Trumpster insurrectionist who wanted to shoot Nancy Pelosi in the head...
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=jan+6+shoot+nancy+pelosi+in+the+head
rurallib
(62,346 posts)I mean if you plan to kill, a gun is the weapon of choice, right?
Then it dawned on me he not only wanted to kill but he also wanted to make Pelosi suffer.
Gawd these are awful people.
Caliman73
(11,694 posts)Remember that it isn't that easy to get a gun in California either. All firearms purchases, except interfamily (nuclear family) transfers, have to go through a background check. If this guy has an arrest record, even for protests, that might interfere with his ability to buy a gun. Also, there is a 10 day waiting period for each purchase of a firearm in California. Not that those steps are insurmountable, but they might deter the average fool.
I do not disagree with your assessment that he wanted Pelosi and/or her husband to suffer. I just think he went with what he could get easiest.
KS Toronado
(16,911 posts)Looks like neighbors might be within ear range of a gunshot.
NullTuples
(6,017 posts)They are good-sized mansions and sometimes empty. And it's not a gated community, at all. They're on same grid of streets as the rest of The City.
I'm guessing gun control works, sometimes. At least with the first wave, those most susceptible to leaders trying to instigate stochastic terrorism. The next wave thinks, and plans ahead.
NullTuples
(6,017 posts)They are good-sized mansions and sometimes empty. And it's not a gated community, at all. They're on same grid of streets as the rest of The City.
I'm guessing gun control works, sometimes. At least with the first wave, those most susceptible to leaders trying to instigate stochastic terrorism. Revving up the rhetoric until the least stable act on it. "Lone wolves" who allow leaders to claim they didn't pull the trigger, detonate the explosion or in this case, swing the hammer.
The next wave thinks, and plans ahead.
Hotler
(11,353 posts)The Hell's Angels held their annual club meeting in Steamboat Colorado. everything was peaceful. Except they all walked around with ball peen hammers on their belts. Cops said it wasn't against the law unless they use it as a weapon. Now days they carry large tactical aluminum flashlights.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)For some reason thought Pelosi had it. Funny I was just thinking that the attacker wasn't armed. But as details unfold, sounds like Pelosi didn't know the guy had gotten in... Since he had to call 9-11 from bathroom ? Still, pieces of story to unravel huh
pandr32
(11,447 posts)McCarthy also said "it will be hard not to hit" Speaker Pelosi with the gavel when he retakes it. In this instance of the attack planned on Pelosi the hammer represents the gavel, justice, etc. to the attacker.
Also, he didn't expect the little baby-eating radical leftist leader to be able to fend him off as he bashed in her brains.
brooklynite
(93,873 posts)OldBaldy1701E
(4,968 posts)I have read three articles about this so far, and none of them paint this person as trying to assassinate Speaker Pelosi. They seem to want to make him out as a lone nut job. Given what they have found so far on social media, I wonder why?
*cough cough*MAGAt*cough cough*
gab13by13
(20,867 posts)for the facts and truth. This was talked about by former prosecutors.
brooklynite
(93,873 posts)Are you suggesting this was an organized attack?
druidity33
(6,435 posts)spewed daily from the right..... has nothing to do with this? That there won't be plenty more "lone nut-jobs" somehow?
brooklynite
(93,873 posts)Nobody i suggesting he wasn't encouraged by violent rhetoric.
druidity33
(6,435 posts)when a bunch of "lone nut jobs" act out because of violent rhetoric, you know, hate speech designed to create mayhem, you don't see that as organized? What about orchestrated? Is this just a difference in terminology that you are arguing? You really don't think Trump and his ilk have been hoping for more of this? Are you just naturally obstreperous?
MontanaMama
(23,242 posts)paleotn
(17,781 posts)Rhetoric of the fascist reich drives this behavior. In that context, you bet your fucking ass this is organized.
Dan
(3,524 posts)One should read about what happened in Germany in the 1930s
The purpose is to destabilize the government - make it seem that there is no control - thus the need for a Strongman.
Trump and his followers would destroy the nation if that is whats required to assume control.
Republicans who vote because there is a R behind their candidates name - in their own way are supporting the overthrowing of the government - regardless of their protestations of just voting for a conservative government. Sometimes, I just wish that they could get the government that they think they want, but it would harm too many decent people.
Plus, I always love the argument that 2nd Amendment and their right to have a gun. As if, they would have the right to own a gun with a authoritarian regime. The collection points for their guns would be on every corner - and those that did not turn in their guns - I have no doubt that their friends would turn them in.
druidity33
(6,435 posts)Cha
(295,926 posts)sheshe2
(83,354 posts)OldBaldy1701E
(4,968 posts)yardwork
(61,418 posts)If this thinking reflects the "insider Democratic leadership" thinking I can see why we're struggling to win elections.
Gymbo
(133 posts)Use this to paint MAGA as dangerous. Honestly, our politicians and their families are in danger and as long as this MAGA threat grows, it can only get worse. Write about the danger to get out the Democratic vote, it works for them, well, let it work for us.
calimary
(80,699 posts)drmeow
(4,996 posts)a public execution - I mean, the Reich wing al think the death penalty deters crime, let's see if it works on them!
eShirl
(18,466 posts)Thunderbeast
(3,383 posts)Nearly 40% of the country seems OK with it...and due to flaws in our 240 year-old constitution, these supporters of fascism are on the cusp of control.
paleotn
(17,781 posts)paleotn
(17,781 posts)Someone needs to make believers out of these magat motherfuckers. We need to put some of these bastards in the morgue.
Mr. Evil
(2,749 posts)Our corporate owned and controlled media does.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)And it's actually a huge principle of journalism.
Demsrule86
(68,352 posts)Speed8098
(1,655 posts)Let's just take these next 18 days and show facts. This administration has made record strides in employment growth, full employment, reinstated treaties, repaired the damage to our allies that Biff caused.
We now have an infrastructure law that requires all materials be manufactured in the United States. We are going to be bring semiconductor manufacturing back to USA, not to mention the pact act.
The cult leader promised everything and only delivered to his multi rich donors., as well and his poorly educated donors that has no idea for month that they were being bilked by the grifter because they forgot to check a box in their email.
They think he's one of them; don't ask me why, but they do. It's up to our candidates to point out the positives of this administration and let the right that look like the folks that can only complain about policies they have no solutions t0, and haven't had for decades.
We are for the people, they are for the corporations. This decision is a no brainier
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ShazzieB
(15,958 posts)That's why they think he's one of them.
Joinfortmill
(14,247 posts)OMGWTF
(3,901 posts)and I said how awful it was, so my brother-in-law says that when the police entered the room Paul Pelosi was holding the hammer, as if to imply that it was Pelosi who was attacking the intruder with the hammer. I quickly countered his BS hate radio talking points with a rejoinder and we changed the subject. He has enjoyed taking swipes at my progressive views for almost 30 years, but I blow it off.
Prior to this topic, he said he was thinking about getting a job at the library, but then he'd have to work with "woke" people. I asked him what he meant by 'woke' people. He said, "You know, queers, transvestites; things like that."
This is a 68-year-old rocket scientist (srsly) with health issues, who lives alone in an old trailer, on just Social Security and has no savings. He is a perennial bachelor who has never had a girlfriend or any friends.
In retrospect, I wish I'd told him that I read in Scientific American about a study showing that homophobes are likely to be self-loathing, closeted homosexuals themselves --https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/homophobes-might-be-hidden-homosexuals/. I would LOL at the look on his face, but frankly, I hope I never see this loser asshole again.
GopherGal
(1,999 posts)Paul Pelosi gets a hammer and holds onto it, awaiting an intruder. The presence of the hammer is just too tempting for the innocent (and otherwise nonviolent ??? yeah, right ) intruder who, upon the arrival of the police, is baited into attacking Mr. Pelosi with the hammer.
We Democrats sure play 5-dimensional chess when we set up our false-flag ops...
paulkienitz
(1,295 posts)though hardly in a prominent fashion.
Initech
(99,915 posts)They're already in "nothing to see here, move along" mode. We cannot let them get away with this one! Hannity and Carlson are egging this shit on every single night. What did they think was going to happen?
Rhiannon12866
(203,022 posts)As long as TFG is still out there with his "rallies," continuing his Big Lie and firing up those who believe him.
Irish_Dem
(45,640 posts)The GOP is allowed to call for her death.
The Wizard
(12,482 posts)The Nazis have been clamoring for civil war. Maybe it's time to get ourselves armed or be hunted down by Trump Brown Shirts.
Evolve Dammit
(16,632 posts)Nancy has been hated by the right for decades. Strong, principled, democratic women (and men) apparently drive them insane.
electric_blue68
(14,622 posts)Meowmee
(5,164 posts)he should be charged with that, attempted assination, as well as attempted murder and deadly force assault of Paul Pelosi. It doesn't matter whether he was a lone terrorist/assassin or not. Paul Pelosis is very lucky to be alive. I think this whole thing is being downplayed.
Skittles
(152,965 posts)they cater strictly to the crazy people now
The Jungle 1
(4,552 posts)This fascist came in through a sliding glass door. I get it the SS was with Nancy but that house needs to be secure. They have the money to make it secure.
Our leaders need to up the security on their homes.
czarjak
(11,194 posts)Raster
(20,996 posts)The MAGAt purposely intended to kill Speaker Pelosi.