Sat Oct 29, 2022, 03:11 PM

Tomconroy (7,107 posts)

Update on the attack on Sevastopol today

Ukraine used a surface boat drone to attack the large Russian frigate Adm Makarov. It was hit amidship. The damage must be extensive.

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Update on the attack on Sevastopol today (Original post)	Tomconroy	Oct 2022	OP
Good!	SheltieLover	Oct 2022	#1
Woah! TY Tom. Slava Ukraini! 🌻🇺🇦🌻	electric_blue68	Oct 2022	#2
Absolutely no response from the Russian ships either	NickB79	Oct 2022	#3
Got that right.	paleotn	Oct 2022	#5
My thought exactly.	TomSlick	Oct 2022	#6
Low profile drone, probably hard to detect	Starfury	Oct 2022	#15
I wonder if those 3 ribs deflect ship radar down on the hull and up so it doesn't reflect back.	TheBlackAdder	Oct 2022	#49
They were looking UP!	Brother Buzz	Oct 2022	#23
Same technique was use on the Moskva.. TB2 drones flying on one side while	mitch96	Oct 2022	#48
oh they tried to respond. but failed	rollin74	Oct 2022	#24
Did they even try to change course to evade?	cab67	Oct 2022	#32
Sink them all.	dalton99a	Oct 2022	#4
Thanks Tom.	panader0	Oct 2022	#7
2 more heroic Russian ships promoted	Jerry2144	Oct 2022	#8
I just want to know	Sympthsical	Oct 2022	#9
Lol. Always appreciate a Titanic reference.	Tomconroy	Oct 2022	#12
Same vids and with geolocation of the attacks in Crimea	mitch96	Oct 2022	#10
The "Unmanned Surface Vessel" (shown in the 2nd video at 1:20) is a work of maritime art. If it....	EarnestPutz	Oct 2022	#42
That pic is of a vessel that was found washed up on a beach in Crimea in September	Emrys	Oct 2022	#46
Be the first on your block to have	multigraincracker	Oct 2022	#11
Ukraine needs more "African Queens"	KS Toronado	Oct 2022	#13
Putin announces an emergency draft of...	S/V Loner	Oct 2022	#14
Hahahah Jet Skis patrolling the harbor with AK47's...	WarGamer	Oct 2022	#20
I'm surprised that never showed up in a James Bond movie	cab67	Oct 2022	#34
Bayraktarwatch?	Emrys	Oct 2022	#25
Use oligarchs' luxury yachts	IronLionZion	Oct 2022	#35
Russia has said it will pull out of a UN-brokered grain export deal after attack	Brother Buzz	Oct 2022	#16
They're using everything they've got.	maxsolomon	Oct 2022	#17
Was it a cigarette boat, Tom?	TexLaProgressive	Oct 2022	#18
Smokin!	Tomconroy	Oct 2022	#22
Looks more like a doobie boat	orangecrush	Oct 2022	#36
Would tht make it a "suicide drone"? That was the trendy phrase of the MSM last week?	WarGamer	Oct 2022	#19
Were they shooting at the water drone and missing terribly?	Lovie777	Oct 2022	#21
Slava Ukraine..	PortTack	Oct 2022	#26
I thought he said if they got the air defense they need, it could be over soon	questionseverything	Oct 2022	#31
Oh sure..that's probably the case	PortTack	Oct 2022	#51
Orchestra was kicking ass too!	GreenWave	Oct 2022	#27
A friend did this to a bulldozer backalong!	Mopar151	Oct 2022	#28
Breaking rumor on this breaking:	GreenWave	Oct 2022	#29
Mysterious Large Circles On Russian Radar Turn Out To Be President Zelensky's Massive Testicles	orangecrush	Oct 2022	#30
Why are these described as 'kamikaze drones'	cab67	Oct 2022	#33
The ability to loiter or circle around until time to attack	IronLionZion	Oct 2022	#37
Some drones can be used multiple times.	Tomconroy	Oct 2022	#39
Russia is claiming they "repelled" the attack	orangecrush	Oct 2022	#38
The crews were blown away on vodka.	lpbk2713	Oct 2022	#40
Certainly looks like it	orangecrush	Oct 2022	#43
Thanks for the update. Judging from Russia's response, they are super pissed.	Beastly Boy	Oct 2022	#41
Sevastopol	moondust	Oct 2022	#44
...	orangecrush	Oct 2022	#45
Thanks for sharing!	Just A Box Of Rain	Oct 2022	#47
Slava Ukraini! Thank you for the update.	niyad	Oct 2022	#50

Response to Tomconroy (Original post)

Sat Oct 29, 2022, 03:13 PM

SheltieLover (57,073 posts)

1. Good!

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Response to Tomconroy (Original post)

Sat Oct 29, 2022, 03:16 PM

electric_blue68 (13,377 posts)

2. Woah! TY Tom. Slava Ukraini! 🌻🇺🇦🌻

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Sat Oct 29, 2022, 03:16 PM

NickB79 (18,351 posts)

3. Absolutely no response from the Russian ships either

What kind of shit equipment and training do they have, to not see and try to engage an inbound ship?

The US learned this lesson with the USS Cole.

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Response to NickB79 (Reply #3)

Sat Oct 29, 2022, 03:20 PM

paleotn (16,893 posts)

5. Got that right.

The vaunted Russian Black Sea fleet is a bit of a shit show.

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Response to NickB79 (Reply #3)

Sat Oct 29, 2022, 03:22 PM

TomSlick (10,630 posts)

6. My thought exactly.

How did not Russians not see and engage a relatively slow moving surface vessel?

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Response to NickB79 (Reply #3)

Sat Oct 29, 2022, 03:39 PM

Starfury (803 posts)

15. Low profile drone, probably hard to detect

Probably some sort of small surface or semi-submersible drone, reportedly similar to this one:

Link to tweet

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Response to Starfury (Reply #15)

Sun Oct 30, 2022, 04:09 AM

TheBlackAdder (27,401 posts)

49. I wonder if those 3 ribs deflect ship radar down on the hull and up so it doesn't reflect back.

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Response to NickB79 (Reply #3)

Sat Oct 29, 2022, 04:15 PM

Brother Buzz (35,218 posts)

23. They were looking UP!

The ship had been attacked by aerial drones before the drone boat struck. These Ukrainians are sneaky good at this game.

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Response to Brother Buzz (Reply #23)

Sun Oct 30, 2022, 02:59 AM

mitch96 (12,898 posts)

48. Same technique was use on the Moskva.. TB2 drones flying on one side while

Two Neptune anti ship missiles slammed in from the other side.. Classic diversion technique.
Sun Tzu would have been proud...
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Response to NickB79 (Reply #3)

Sat Oct 29, 2022, 04:16 PM

rollin74 (1,839 posts)

24. oh they tried to respond. but failed

Link to tweet

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Response to NickB79 (Reply #3)

Sat Oct 29, 2022, 05:38 PM

cab67 (2,679 posts)

32. Did they even try to change course to evade?

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Response to Tomconroy (Original post)

Sat Oct 29, 2022, 03:18 PM

dalton99a (78,068 posts)

4. Sink them all.

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Sat Oct 29, 2022, 03:24 PM

panader0 (25,816 posts)

7. Thanks Tom.

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Sat Oct 29, 2022, 03:25 PM

Jerry2144 (1,814 posts)

8. 2 more heroic Russian ships promoted

To submarine.

It’a good start

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Sat Oct 29, 2022, 03:29 PM

Sympthsical (7,458 posts)

9. I just want to know

Is the orchestra on the boat ok?

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Response to Sympthsical (Reply #9)

Sat Oct 29, 2022, 03:34 PM

Tomconroy (7,107 posts)

12. Lol. Always appreciate a Titanic reference.

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Sat Oct 29, 2022, 03:32 PM

mitch96 (12,898 posts)

10. Same vids and with geolocation of the attacks in Crimea

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Response to mitch96 (Reply #10)

Sat Oct 29, 2022, 06:26 PM

EarnestPutz (1,826 posts)

42. The "Unmanned Surface Vessel" (shown in the 2nd video at 1:20) is a work of maritime art. If it....

...is something that the Ukrainians have developed since the war began, like some of their ingenious hobby drones dropping grenades, it truly is a beautifully designed and constructed product. If, perhaps less likely, it is something that our Ukrainian friends have been working on prior to the invasion, it's still really impressive.

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Response to EarnestPutz (Reply #42)

Sat Oct 29, 2022, 07:44 PM

Emrys (6,829 posts)

46. That pic is of a vessel that was found washed up on a beach in Crimea in September

Russia Finds Mystery Vessel On Crimean Beach: Is It A New Ukrainian Attack Drone? (UPDATED)

More detailed analysis of it here: https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/mystery-drone-boat-washes-up-near-home-of-russias-black-sea-fleet

There was doubt at the time whether it was a Ukrainian or US product.

Not wishing to rake up the Kerch Bridge incident again, but its prow looks very similar to what I believed I saw coming just into view under the bridge supports as the bridge blew up. That explosion may have been the result of a number of simultaneous attacks, but I'm still not convinced an important part of it wasn't waterborne.

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Response to Tomconroy (Original post)

Sat Oct 29, 2022, 03:33 PM

multigraincracker (31,229 posts)

11. Be the first on your block to have

guided torpedoes.
Hey Russkies, this is the 21 Century.

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Sat Oct 29, 2022, 03:37 PM

KS Toronado (13,713 posts)

13. Ukraine needs more "African Queens"

Turn the entire Russian fleet into submarines.

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Sat Oct 29, 2022, 03:38 PM

S/V Loner (8,969 posts)

14. Putin announces an emergency draft of...

300 personal watercraft, along with their owners, for Ukraine fight.

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Response to S/V Loner (Reply #14)

Sat Oct 29, 2022, 03:58 PM

WarGamer (9,941 posts)

20. Hahahah Jet Skis patrolling the harbor with AK47's...

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Response to WarGamer (Reply #20)

Sat Oct 29, 2022, 05:42 PM

cab67 (2,679 posts)

34. I'm surprised that never showed up in a James Bond movie

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Response to S/V Loner (Reply #14)

Sat Oct 29, 2022, 04:18 PM

Emrys (6,829 posts)

25. Bayraktarwatch?

Massed pedaloes and lilos with nary a lifejacket or pump between them.

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Response to S/V Loner (Reply #14)

Sat Oct 29, 2022, 05:49 PM

IronLionZion (43,676 posts)

35. Use oligarchs' luxury yachts

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Response to Tomconroy (Original post)

Sat Oct 29, 2022, 03:42 PM

Brother Buzz (35,218 posts)

16. Russia has said it will pull out of a UN-brokered grain export deal after attack

Russia has said it will pull out of a UN-brokered grain export deal after a dramatic attack by Ukrainian airborne and underwater drones on its Black Sea naval base of Sevastopol in the early hours of Saturday morning.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/oct/29/russia-suspends-ukraine-grain-deal-after-attack-on-sevastopol-naval-base

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Sat Oct 29, 2022, 03:47 PM

maxsolomon (31,466 posts)

17. They're using everything they've got.

Sevastopol is a 100% legit target.

"I've seen the future, brother; it is murder" -L. Cohen

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Sat Oct 29, 2022, 03:50 PM

TexLaProgressive (12,091 posts)

18. Was it a cigarette boat, Tom?

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Response to TexLaProgressive (Reply #18)

Sat Oct 29, 2022, 04:09 PM

Tomconroy (7,107 posts)

22. Smokin!

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Response to TexLaProgressive (Reply #18)

Sat Oct 29, 2022, 05:50 PM

orangecrush (17,673 posts)

36. Looks more like a doobie boat

A "bomber"

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Sat Oct 29, 2022, 03:57 PM

WarGamer (9,941 posts)

19. Would tht make it a "suicide drone"? That was the trendy phrase of the MSM last week?

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Sat Oct 29, 2022, 04:07 PM

Lovie777 (9,902 posts)

21. Were they shooting at the water drone and missing terribly?

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Sat Oct 29, 2022, 05:08 PM

PortTack (30,756 posts)

26. Slava Ukraine..

President Zelensky in one of his nightly addresses, he does them every night, said the war may be over soon. Wonder what soon is? Anyone else hear him say this or have any other information about it?

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Response to PortTack (Reply #26)

Sat Oct 29, 2022, 05:37 PM

questionseverything (9,410 posts)

31. I thought he said if they got the air defense they need, it could be over soon

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Response to questionseverything (Reply #31)

Sun Oct 30, 2022, 11:58 AM

PortTack (30,756 posts)

51. Oh sure..that's probably the case

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Response to Tomconroy (Original post)

Sat Oct 29, 2022, 05:18 PM

GreenWave (4,812 posts)

27. Orchestra was kicking ass too!

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Sat Oct 29, 2022, 05:19 PM

Mopar151 (9,721 posts)

28. A friend did this to a bulldozer backalong!

He did the mechanical and welding, so that it could work under a furnace without roasting an operator! Radio controls were industrial stuff, maybe for a crane.

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Sat Oct 29, 2022, 05:21 PM

GreenWave (4,812 posts)

29. Breaking rumor on this breaking:

A Russian source informs me that there was a big to do with Iran and Iran may have done it.

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Sat Oct 29, 2022, 05:28 PM

orangecrush (17,673 posts)

30. Mysterious Large Circles On Russian Radar Turn Out To Be President Zelensky's Massive Testicles

https://babylonbee.com/news/mysterious-large-circles-on-russian-radar-turn-out-to-be-president-zelenskys-testicles

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Sat Oct 29, 2022, 05:41 PM

cab67 (2,679 posts)

33. Why are these described as 'kamikaze drones'

and not just ‘guided munitions?’

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Response to cab67 (Reply #33)

Sat Oct 29, 2022, 05:54 PM

IronLionZion (43,676 posts)

37. The ability to loiter or circle around until time to attack

There's a table at this link comparing it to guided missiles such as our Tomahawk cruise missiles

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loitering_munition

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Response to cab67 (Reply #33)

Sat Oct 29, 2022, 06:08 PM

Tomconroy (7,107 posts)

39. Some drones can be used multiple times.

A kamakazi drone is one and done. Like the Iranian ones being currently used.

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Sat Oct 29, 2022, 06:00 PM

orangecrush (17,673 posts)

38. Russia is claiming they "repelled" the attack

But it doesn't look that way.

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Response to orangecrush (Reply #38)

Sat Oct 29, 2022, 06:21 PM

lpbk2713 (42,332 posts)

40. The crews were blown away on vodka.

And then they were blown away by the drone.

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Response to lpbk2713 (Reply #40)

Sat Oct 29, 2022, 06:32 PM

orangecrush (17,673 posts)

43. Certainly looks like it

We should know soon.

I hope it's on the bottom.

One less missile platform.

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Sat Oct 29, 2022, 06:24 PM

Beastly Boy (6,837 posts)

41. Thanks for the update. Judging from Russia's response, they are super pissed.

Within hours of the attack they withdrew from the UN-sponsored agreement to allow Ukrainian grain to be exported to the rest of the world.

If the ship that got hit is indeed the frigate Admiral Makarov, that would be adding insult to injury for Russia's Black Sea fleet. Makarov became their flagship after Ukraine sank the cruiser Moskva, the former flagship of the fleet.

Can't wait to find out how many other Russian ships got promoted to submarines.

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Sat Oct 29, 2022, 07:14 PM

moondust (19,463 posts)

44. Sevastopol

was likely the main reason Pooty "annexed" Crimea in 2014. After Maidan and the loss of his puppet in Kyiv he was probably insecure about having continued access to his Black Sea fleet.

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Sat Oct 29, 2022, 07:36 PM

orangecrush (17,673 posts)