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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe decision has been made, but I think the 2024 Primary Schedule is a bad move.
The President could have achieved most of what he wanted, by holding the existing first four - IA, NH, NV, SC on the same day, all as primaries. Added together, you get something like a representative demographic.
No that would not satisfy NH - being first is not enough. What do you call an exclusive for a state that is practically exclusively white?
Ocelot II
(115,279 posts)The states whose schedules are proposed to be changed are objecting, and NH's laws require that it go first. This is not a done deal.
SCantiGOP
(13,856 posts)some are run by republicans, and some have laws like you point out in NH that require them to change their dates if necessary to keep their place in the lineup.
padfun
(1,780 posts)The one that requires that their state goes first.
JT45242
(2,173 posts)Also heard the party can take away candidate delegates if they choose to campaign in rogue states.
Give NH and Iowa 1 delegate each.
brush
(53,471 posts)Last edited Fri Dec 2, 2022, 08:06 PM - Edit history (1)
is not a bad idea. It is different though than the new proposal by the WH...SC first, then NV and NH then Georgia I believe...both are an improvement over NH first then Iowa's antiquated caucus system.
Georgia I've just read, is opposed to the new Georgia date. I believe it'll get worked out for the better as Iowa and NH first, both some 90% white, is no longer compatible with the diverse make-up of the Democratic Party as they are both unfair to non-white candidates.
speak easy
(9,101 posts)while moving NV, and NH up three days, to the same date.
JT45242
(2,173 posts)1. A caucus is undemocratic. You have to announce your vote to everyone instead of a secret ballots.
2. Caucuses are a first class pain in the ass. Ours is held at an elementary or middle school with about 40-50 parking spots for about 3,000 voters. Literally parked 1.5 miles away. You want a caucus, you go last and you get one delegate.
3. Iowa is a red state state with few electoral college votes that we won't win. If you have all red at the federal level and close to 20 years of rethug governor then who the handful of democratic voters are do not matter. This is trump country .. remember Steve king was a rep here for a ling time. We literally just passed a state amendment that said we would ignore all federal gun laws, which is clearly unconstitutional.
4. The state is more than 90 percent white.
Early primary states should have the following requirements.
1. Have at least 8 electoral college votes.
2. At least 30 percent non white population.
3. Have a realistic chance of being carried in the general because statewide offices like governor or senator have been held by Dems recently.
I voted in Ohio from 1988 to 2013 when I came to Iowa because of a job, and the Ohio primary never meant a thing but Ohio was critical to the general. Neither NH nor IA are critical to the general, so go to the back of the line.
speak easy
(9,101 posts)Indykatie
(3,691 posts)I think it's disrespectful to the base of the party to have IA and NH going first. It just makes me angry. 2 Small White states should not have outsized influence on what candidates are viable as the nominating cycle begins. Period.
JustAnotherGen
(31,683 posts)speak easy
(9,101 posts)I trust this time the Democrats will throwing good money after bad.