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Tue Jan 24, 2023, 11:58 AM

Let's take Trump on his word for one second ... let's say McGonigal was actually investigating him

Last edited Tue Jan 24, 2023, 12:55 PM - Edit history (2)

as he's claiming. Okay, I know it's a ludicrous idea, but just for a second.

In that particular worldview, riddle me this ... John Durham was appointed by Trump's people to 'investigate the investigators', right?

But somehow John Durham (at least it would seem) utterly failed to catch this 'investigator' of Trump/Russia, despite red flags like numerous large (but under the reporting limit) cash deposits, and travelling with someone linked to Russia.

Why is that, you think?

Edit: Another question I have is this: Christopher Steele testified he eventually forwarded his infamous dossier to John McCain because he felt like the FBI (who he initially sent it to) were 'sitting on it'. Was it the NYC field office he initially sent it to? Does he have reason to think McGonigle himself had anything to do with the inaction he perceived?

Edit 2: Ah, yes, I thought I'd read this in the past ...

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/dossier-stalle-ny-field-office-weeks-after-launch-russia-probe

The Christopher Steele “dossier,” which contains salacious claims about President Trump and his ties to Russia, was reportedly stuck in a FBI field office in New York for several weeks in July 2016, during the same time period that officials in Washington, D.C. had already begun looking into Trump campaign associates’ ties to Russia, ABC News reported.

The documents were sent to the “wrong person,” ABC’s sources said, and the documents sat untouched in the field office for weeks, as counterintelligence officials in D.C. began looking into former Trump campaign associate Carter Page and chairman Paul Manafort.


Uh-huh. I bet they were sent to 'the wrong person' indeed.

Edit 3: Another 'interesting' link ...

(Reuters) - A search warrant application unsealed on Wednesday revealed closer links than previously known between President Donald Trump’s former campaign manager Paul Manafort and a Russian oligarch with close ties to the Kremlin.


And what do you know, it's Deripaska. And then, of course, Trump pardoned Manafort. Color me shocked

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-manafort/manafort-had-10-million-loan-from-russian-oligarch-court-filing-idUSKBN1JN2YF

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Reply Let's take Trump on his word for one second ... let's say McGonigal was actually investigating him (Original post)
Hugh_Lebowski Jan 24 OP
Thomas Hurt Jan 24 #1
Walleye Jan 24 #2
Hugh_Lebowski Jan 24 #7
Walleye Jan 24 #8
Hugh_Lebowski Jan 24 #12
Walleye Jan 24 #13
global1 Jan 24 #3
Wounded Bear Jan 24 #4
gab13by13 Jan 24 #5
Whiskeytide Jan 24 #9
flying_wahini Jan 24 #6
LetMyPeopleVote Jan 24 #10
Hugh_Lebowski Jan 24 #11
spanone Jan 24 #14
LetMyPeopleVote Jan 30 #15

Response to Hugh_Lebowski (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2023, 11:59 AM

1. Great point!

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Response to Hugh_Lebowski (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2023, 11:59 AM

2. Is this the same conspirators that Manafort passed the campaign information to?

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Response to Walleye (Reply #2)

Tue Jan 24, 2023, 12:24 PM

7. No ...

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-campaign-chief-paul-manafort-owns-up-to-passing-sensitive-data-to-suspected-russian-agent

Donald Trump's 2016 campaign chairman Paul Manafort on Monday publicly admitted that he gave polling data to Konstantin Kilimnik, a suspected Russian intelligence asset ...


He in turn has links to former pro-Russia leader of Ukraine named Viktor Yanukovych.

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Response to Hugh_Lebowski (Reply #7)

Tue Jan 24, 2023, 12:28 PM

8. They are all in cahoots

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Response to Walleye (Reply #8)

Tue Jan 24, 2023, 12:51 PM

12. Actually, I stand corrected after further research ... there IS a direct link actually

(Reuters) - A search warrant application unsealed on Wednesday revealed closer links than previously known between President Donald Trump’s former campaign manager Paul Manafort and a Russian oligarch with close ties to the Kremlin.


And it's Deripaska.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-manafort/manafort-had-10-million-loan-from-russian-oligarch-court-filing-idUSKBN1JN2YF

Good call!

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Response to Hugh_Lebowski (Reply #12)

Tue Jan 24, 2023, 12:57 PM

13. Aha! Thanks

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Response to Hugh_Lebowski (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2023, 12:09 PM

3. If They Want To Investigate The FBI....

I'd start with the NYC Field Office.

Where was Tr**p's base of operations located? Hmmmm.....

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Response to Hugh_Lebowski (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2023, 12:14 PM

4. Meh. trump turned on Wray, too, after he got trump elected...

He's pre-loading his attacks for when McGonigle turns on him.

No honor among thieves.

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Response to Wounded Bear (Reply #4)

Tue Jan 24, 2023, 12:17 PM

5. Not exactly turning on

Sending them a message.

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Response to Wounded Bear (Reply #4)

Tue Jan 24, 2023, 12:39 PM

9. That's an interesting take. I think of it as the ...

… simple “rope-a-dope” tactic Тяцмp is famous for. The last thing a simple, authoritarian mind would expect would be Тяцмp coming out against someone suspected of being in bed with Тяцмp.

By attacking him as “Anti-Tяцмp”, he creates a simple, easy to follow narrative that they are on different sides.

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Response to Hugh_Lebowski (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2023, 12:19 PM

6. You are most assuredly correct.

Looks pretty much like a slam dunk to me.

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Response to Hugh_Lebowski (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2023, 12:42 PM

10. The NYT and this FBI agent helped TFG win in 2016

I was at a law firm doing a video conference for voter protection when this announcement was made. I had an associate with me who was getting some CLE for this training and I saw that he was upset during the course. On the way back to the office, I was told about Comey announcing the reopening of the Clinton email investigation. That reopening with the NYT article that the FBI found no connection between Russia and TFG were the final nails.

The NYT is not a real news organization and the NYC office of the FBI was full of Clinton haters some of whom were working directly for Russia









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Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Reply #10)

Tue Jan 24, 2023, 12:46 PM

11. We're on the exact same page my friend

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Response to Hugh_Lebowski (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2023, 01:05 PM

14. ...K&R...

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Response to Hugh_Lebowski (Original post)

Mon Jan 30, 2023, 02:25 AM

15. The NYT should tell readers whether it helped crooked FBI agents get Trump elected in 2016

The combination of the NYT and crooked FBI agents got TFG elected. I canceled my subscription to the NYT back in 2016 due to the biased coverage. The NYT is not a real news organization and actually worked with the NYC office of the FBI to elect TFG


https://www.inquirer.com/opinion/commentary/mcgonigal-russian-oligarch-trump-2016-election-20230129.html

It was arguably the most consequential “October Surprise” in the history of American presidential elections. In the waning days of the 2016 race, with polls showing Hillary Clinton clinging to a lead over Donald Trump, two last-minute stories broke that rekindled on-the-fence voters’ ethical doubts about Democrat Clinton and quashed a budding scandal around her GOP rival.

Except the “October Surprise” was no surprise to one key player: Rudolph Giuliani, the ex-New York mayor and Trump insider who later became the 45th president’s attorney. Late that month, Giuliani told Fox News that the trailing Republican nominee had “a surprise or two that you’re going to hear about in the next few days. I mean, I’m talking about some pretty big surprises.”

Just two days later, then-FBI director James Comey revealed the bureau had reopened its probe into Clinton’s emails, based on the possible discovery of new communications on a laptop belonging to disgraced New York politico Anthony Weiner. The news jolted the campaign with a particularly strong boost from the New York Times, which devoted two-thirds of its front page to the story — and the notion it was a major blow to Clinton’s prospects.

It was later reported that Comey was motivated to make the unusual announcement about the laptop because he feared leaks from the FBI’s New York field office, which, according to Reuters, had “a faction of investigators based in the office known to be hostile to Hillary Clinton.” Indeed, Giuliani bragged immediately after that he had sources in the FBI, including current agents.



......The government allegations against the former G-man Charles McGonigal (also accused of taking a large foreign payment while still on the FBI payroll) and the outsized American influence of the sanctioned-and-later-indicted Russian billionaire Oleg Deripaska — also tied to U.S. pols from Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort to Senate GOP leader Mitch McConnell — should make us also look again at what was really up with the FBI in 2016.

How coordinated was the effort in that New York field office to pump up the ultimate nothingburger about Clinton’s emails while poo-pooing the very real evidence of Russian interference on Trump’s behalf, and who were the agents behind it? What was the role, if any, of McGonigal and his international web of intrigue? Was the now-tainted McGonigal a source who told the New York Times that fateful October that Russia was not trying to help Trump win the election — before the U.S. intelligence community determined the exact opposite? If not McGonigal, just who was intentionally misleading America’s most influential news org, and why?......

It’s not only that America’s so-called paper of record has never apologized for its over-the-top coverage of the Clinton emails or the deeply flawed story about the FBI Trump-Russia probe. It’s that the Times has shown a stunning lack of curiosity about finding out what went wrong. In May 2017, or just seven months after Trump’s election, then-Times executive editor Dean Baquet ended the position of public editor, an independent journalist who was embedded in the newsroom to cover controversies exactly like these.

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