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(85,919 posts)
Fri Feb 3, 2023, 01:27 PM Feb 2023

Lordy, There Are Yet More Tapes

Jay Kuo @nycjayjay 58m (Head of Team Takei & Composer of Allegiance)
Jack Smith must be chuckling this morning following this development. It turns out someone in the Trump campaign in Wisconsin made recordings of a meeting in the days following the 2020 presidential election. What they caught on tape and what it means: https://statuskuo.substack.com/p/lordy-there-are-yet-more-tapes?sd=pf


“We ever talk to Black people before? I don’t think so,” he said, eliciting laughter from others in the room.

MADISON, Wis. (AP) — A newly released audio recording offers a behind-the-scenes look at how former President Donald Trump’s campaign team in a pivotal battleground state knew they had been outflanked by Democrats in the 2020 presidential election. But even as they acknowledged defeat, they pivoted to allegations of widespread fraud that were ultimately debunked — repeatedly — by elections officials and the courts.

The audio from Nov. 5, 2020, two days after the election, is surfacing as Trump again seeks the White House while continuing to lie about the legitimacy of the outcome and Democrat Joe Biden’s win.

The Wisconsin political operatives in the strategy session even praised Democratic turnout efforts in the state’s largest counties and appeared to joke about their efforts to engage Black voters, according to the recording obtained Thursday by The Associated Press. The audio centers on Andrew Iverson, who was the head of Trump’s campaign in the state.

That these two things happened is not surprising. After all, there exists plenty of other evidence that the Trump campaign would cry election fraud if Trump lost. Roger Stone admitted as early as the summer of 2020 that the Trump Campaign planned to contest the results in bad faith. And former top Trump advisor Steve Bannon was caught on tape telling a group that if Trump was losing on election night, he was going to claim the election was stolen.

What is different here is that this tape lays out what was going on at the critical battleground state level. Lower level Trump operatives there have far fewer means and connections to protect themselves against prosecution, and they’re unlikely to be willing to fall on the sword for Trump today. Indeed, the recording was apparently made by another campaign staffer, who chose to remain anonymous out of fear of reprisals. The staffer was concerned that Trump has decided to run again in 2024 and that the nation could see another repeat of the 2020 election chaos.

read: https://apnews.com/article/biden-politics-2022-midterm-elections-donald-trump-madison-166e3f52e42cc45cff8f28b75dd23cfc

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Lordy, There Are Yet More Tapes (Original Post) bigtree Feb 2023 OP
another post on this topic NJCher Feb 2023 #1
thank you! bigtree Feb 2023 #3
From the recording MagickMuffin Feb 2023 #2
stand back, and bigtree Feb 2023 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Feb 2023 #6
Stunts. BadgerMom Feb 2023 #9
Ah, a fellow traveler! ZZenith Feb 2023 #11
TickTock Joinfortmill Feb 2023 #5
The story's conclusion is the best part! 😅 ffr Feb 2023 #7
+1 2naSalit Feb 2023 #8
pretty much says it all very neatly. nt oldsoftie Feb 2023 #15
24 months and counting republianmushroom Feb 2023 #10
My god, these people. What is wrong with people that they refuse crickets Feb 2023 #12
One would think that I could no longer be horrified by these people UpInArms Feb 2023 #13
Jack Smith is encountering the dumbest bunch of defendants of his career. Vinca Feb 2023 #14
Tapes like this are very important in proving that Trump knew he was lying when he claimed the Martin68 Feb 2023 #16
K&R Thanks for posting. n/t TeamProg Feb 2023 #17
lets hear the tapes. all of them. the more tacky and rotten, the better. Trueblue1968 Feb 2023 #18

MagickMuffin

(15,893 posts)
2. From the recording
Fri Feb 3, 2023, 01:32 PM
Feb 2023

“Here’s the drill: Comms is going to continue to fan the flame and get the word out about Democrats trying to steal this election. We’ll do whatever they need (inaudible) help with. Just be on standby in case there’s any stunts we need to pull,” Iverson said.

“At the end of the day, this operation received more votes than any other Republican in Wisconsin history,” Iverson said. “Say what you want, our operation turned out Republican or DJT supporters. Democrats just got 20,000 more than us, out of Dane County and other shenanigans in Milwaukee, Green Bay and Dane. There’s a lot that people can learn from this campaign.”



Response to MagickMuffin (Reply #2)

BadgerMom

(2,766 posts)
9. Stunts.
Fri Feb 3, 2023, 08:35 PM
Feb 2023

They’re dismantling American democracy and they call their actions “stunts.” I hate them. They are the same effin’ privileged white fraternity brothers I’ve always hated.

Sorry. Wish my emotions were more elegant.

ZZenith

(4,110 posts)
11. Ah, a fellow traveler!
Fri Feb 3, 2023, 10:24 PM
Feb 2023

I share your hatred. They’ve been the bane of my existence and am thrilled whenever they get their long-deserved comeuppance.

Elegant schmelegant - never a need to apologize for righteous indignation.

ffr

(22,649 posts)
7. The story's conclusion is the best part! 😅
Fri Feb 3, 2023, 04:13 PM
Feb 2023
The tape underscores the sprawling nature of the investigation and its many moving parts...

If I were an investigator sitting across from such a lawyer, I would mince few words. It might go something like this: “Look, we know your client knew what he was doing was wrong. He admitted his team came close but lost the election because the Dems turned out 20,000 more votes. He understood that the plan was to have Comms fan the flame of election fraud. He was ready to pull stunts to further that false story. And we have it all here, on tape, thanks to a guy who’s already cooperating.

“Now, does your client want to cooperate, too, and tell us who was pulling the strings and giving marching orders at the Trump Campaign, or does he really want to go down for the loser and his team?”


...or does he really want to go down for the loser and his team?”

crickets

(25,896 posts)
12. My god, these people. What is wrong with people that they refuse
Fri Feb 3, 2023, 10:26 PM
Feb 2023

to face the enormity of what they were doing? An election is not a team sport, it's the way we decide the very government we all depend on to keep things running. 🤦?♀️

UpInArms

(51,253 posts)
13. One would think that I could no longer be horrified by these people
Sat Feb 4, 2023, 09:03 AM
Feb 2023

One would be wrong …

How can so many of them be so horrible?

Martin68

(22,671 posts)
16. Tapes like this are very important in proving that Trump knew he was lying when he claimed the
Sat Feb 4, 2023, 12:35 PM
Feb 2023

election was stolen. A vital piece of evidence in convicting him of conspiracy.

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