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lindysalsagal

(22,124 posts)
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 12:40 PM Mar 2023

Jen Psaki's show: asks 8 former trump voters what woke means. Nada. Nothing.

She played the video of them on zoom, and they had no idea at all. She then asked an author on the subject who had no explanation at all.

It's an empty dog whistle.

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Jen Psaki's show: asks 8 former trump voters what woke means. Nada. Nothing. (Original Post) lindysalsagal Mar 2023 OP
as long as it works for them it doesn't matter mucifer Mar 2023 #1
Right. We can scoff at their obvious ignorance, but, sadly... Beartracks Mar 2023 #17
They know what it means, just can't say it on TV. It's anything they hate woke Meadowoak Mar 2023 #2
Yep, it's racist too. Emile Mar 2023 #3
this mopinko Mar 2023 #6
"Antiwoke" is just an empty vessel for each asshole to pour their personal bigotry into, and by RockRaven Mar 2023 #4
Dems should "out-anti-woke" the Republicans gulliver Mar 2023 #5
This is perfect FakeNoose Mar 2023 #8
They can't say in public what it really connotes to them. Ocelot II Mar 2023 #7
Anything but the truth Loge23 Mar 2023 #9
They don't know what socialism means either but it's a trigger word for them, like Black American. ZonkerHarris Mar 2023 #10
It's not that they can't describe it Maine Abu El Banat Mar 2023 #11
I think they were for Trump 2016 but switched to Biden 2020. rickford66 Mar 2023 #12
Woke does have a meaning, a good one. ananda Mar 2023 #13
always my assumption. lindysalsagal Mar 2023 #18
That is, I think, what the smarter ones say they are against: they deny the notion... Beartracks Mar 2023 #21
+100000 Celerity Mar 2023 #28
I love asking if banning books is "woke". The Jungle 1 Mar 2023 #14
HA! I bet they don't. lindysalsagal Mar 2023 #20
Its like "cancelling," which I thought they claimed was a woke thing. Beartracks Mar 2023 #24
My RWNJ bro-in-law said he wanted to get a part-time job at the local library but decided not to OMGWTF Mar 2023 #15
The more you argue facts or common sense, the more entrenched in their delusions they become. You Pepsidog Mar 2023 #16
She should have asked them what CRT is BaronChocula Mar 2023 #19
They don't want to admit it because it makes them look absolutely evil IronLionZion Mar 2023 #22
Crud - missed it. cilla4progress Mar 2023 #23
In the Lee Atwater right wing school of nasty politics BlueIdaho Mar 2023 #25
It's ron desantis' entire schtick spanone Mar 2023 #26
they know what it means Skittles Mar 2023 #27
They have to idea what it means. Straw Man Mar 2023 #29

Beartracks

(13,360 posts)
17. Right. We can scoff at their obvious ignorance, but, sadly...
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 03:21 PM
Mar 2023

... us knowing they're ignorant doesn't change anything about the way they vote.

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RockRaven

(16,004 posts)
4. "Antiwoke" is just an empty vessel for each asshole to pour their personal bigotry into, and by
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 12:55 PM
Mar 2023

doing so now they've got a large group of supposedly aligned people. All the different bigotries have now taken the same shape.

The same way "MAGA" is an empty vessel for grievances and grifting schemes, and QAnon is an empty vessel for conspiracy theories.

gulliver

(13,309 posts)
5. Dems should "out-anti-woke" the Republicans
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 12:57 PM
Mar 2023

Two can play at the game of being against something for which there is no definition. I'm against woke too. Well, whatever it is. To me it's a made-up boogeyman, just another in a long line of them.

Interviewer to Dem: Are you for woke?

Dem to Interviewer: No. I'm completely against it.

Interviewer to Dem: What exactly is it?

Dem to Interviewer: Ask the Republicans. They're the ones who made it up.

FakeNoose

(35,105 posts)
8. This is perfect
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 01:10 PM
Mar 2023

It reminds me of the old term from the early 70's - or maybe it was the late 60's - it was "soul." Nobody really knew what it meant to have "soul" but we all knew that black people had it and white people wanted it. It wasn't exactly a racist term, as I recall. The greatest compliment you could give someone was to call him a "white soul brother" or a woman was a "white soul sister." Kind of silly really, it was just another example of white people appropriating the black community's culture.

That's how "woke" is being used.

Ocelot II

(119,628 posts)
7. They can't say in public what it really connotes to them.
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 01:09 PM
Mar 2023

They say "woke" when they really mean "n-----" or any of the other slurs for non-white, non-straight/cis, non-Christian and in some cases non-female people. So they waffle and mumble some nonsense so they don't have to admit what it really means to them.

Loge23

(3,922 posts)
9. Anything but the truth
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 02:05 PM
Mar 2023

They'll do anything to disguise the naked truth about themselves: wrap themselves in the American flag, make American great again slogans, "believe in America" "restore America" - and on and on.
We all know what they really mean and I won't repeat it here, but we all know it it's just the most base, blatant, and vile racial slur that can be imagined.
It's tragic what has taken place in this country, in 2023 yet. Never in a million years did I ever expect to see this in this country.

Maine Abu El Banat

(3,479 posts)
11. It's not that they can't describe it
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 02:45 PM
Mar 2023

It's that they can't make it sound bad. My description would be simple. I would refer them to the teachings of Jesus Christ.

rickford66

(5,625 posts)
12. I think they were for Trump 2016 but switched to Biden 2020.
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 02:47 PM
Mar 2023

The premise was, how will saying Woke, get them back to voting MAGA.

ananda

(30,204 posts)
13. Woke does have a meaning, a good one.
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 02:50 PM
Mar 2023

It originates from the Black community to describe
a person who is against systemic racism and oppression.

Easy peasy.

Beartracks

(13,360 posts)
21. That is, I think, what the smarter ones say they are against: they deny the notion...
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 03:27 PM
Mar 2023

... that there are SYSTEMIC problems with racism, and further that such problems would require GOVERNMENT solutions.

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Celerity

(46,154 posts)
28. +100000
Mon Mar 20, 2023, 12:11 AM
Mar 2023
they deny the notion..... that there are SYSTEMIC problems with racism, and further that such problems would require GOVERNMENT solutions.


exactly

OMGWTF

(4,347 posts)
15. My RWNJ bro-in-law said he wanted to get a part-time job at the local library but decided not to
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 03:06 PM
Mar 2023

because he'd have to work with "woke" people. I asked him what he meant by that, and he replied, "Gays and transvestites." I didn't bother to correct him because it wouldn't make a difference. He once told me he didn't want to hear anything that might change his core beliefs. Not sure why he's such a homophobe since he's a 70-year-old who has never been on a date with anyone. In. His. Life.

Pepsidog

(6,292 posts)
16. The more you argue facts or common sense, the more entrenched in their delusions they become. You
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 03:14 PM
Mar 2023

didn’t confront him you asked questions that revealed the depth of his ignorance.

IronLionZion

(46,803 posts)
22. They don't want to admit it because it makes them look absolutely evil
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 03:27 PM
Mar 2023

to be against awareness of systemic injustices. They like systemic injustices.

It's the same reason racists don't want to see my documents. They know I'm a US citizen. They just don't like that I'm a US citizen. It's easier to hate me if you pretend I'm not American somehow.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
25. In the Lee Atwater right wing school of nasty politics
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 03:43 PM
Mar 2023

Its a coded way to say “ni99er” - but they sure as hell ain’t going to acknowledge that…

Skittles

(157,454 posts)
27. they know what it means
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 11:56 PM
Mar 2023

the problem is, they are unable to EXPLAIN the concept without expressing what they literally are: FUCKING RACIST ASSHOLES

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