NEW:@cbsnews polling shows majority of respondents supporting a nationwide ban on AR-15 semi-auto

[BeckyDem]

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( Funny how many policies Americans don't see become law despite the popularity across a spectrum of voters. )

[brewens]

1. I saw one thing we should take advantage of. Those Uvalde cops were saying the shooter had a "battle

rifle". We can call them that now and not have to deal with the idiotic NRA babbling points. Before if you said assault rifle, you see people chime in that those weren't assault rifles because they didn't have full-auto and machine guns were already illegal. All that crap.

The main threat is the ammo capacity. Militaries around the world train their guys to almost always use semi-auto with select fire weapons. Someone that picked a good spot and knew what they were doing wouldn't go full-auto even if he had an M-16. It makes very little difference if it's a full-auto weapon or not. In fact, you might have a better chance of getting away if some moron put most of a magazine in the walls and ceiling on full auto. I wouldn't want to try and test that one though.

[keithbvadu2]

7. Those Uvalde cops were the 'good guys with a gun'.

Parkland... Trump says he would have rushed in

[jmowreader]

9. It will get worse

“Battle rifle” also has a specific meaning: select-fire rifle that uses full power cartridges like 7.62mm NATO. The M-14, FN FAL and G3 are battle rifles.

[Kaleva]

14. Auto is used for suppression fire

Make the enemy break and retreat or hunker down so others can advance on them

[sir pball]

15. Nah, "battle rifle" is also a long-standing term that gunners would nitpick at.

Per The Wiki:

A battle rifle is a service rifle chambered to fire a fully powered cartridge.[1] The term "battle rifle" is a retronym created largely out of a need to better differentiate the intermediate-powered assault rifles (e.g. the StG-44, AK-47, M16, AUG) from full-powered rifles (e.g. the FG-42, AVS-36, FN FAL, and M14, as well as the H&K G3 outside of sniping uses) as both classes of modern firearms have a similar appearance and share many of the same features such as detachable magazines, pistol grips, separate upper and lower receivers etc.[2] Battle rifles were most prominent from the 1940s to the 1970s, when they were used as service rifles. While modern battle rifles largely resemble modern assault rifle designs, which replaced battle rifles in most roles, the term may also describe older military full-powered semi-automatic rifles such as the M1 Garand, SVT-40, Gewehr 41, Gewehr 43, Type 4, FN Model 1949, and MAS-49.

The nuts will claim that since an AR (or AK, SKS, Mini-14, or or or) doesn't fire a full-power cartridge, it's not by definition a "battle rifle"; they'll say the cops in Uvalde were using incorrect terminology and we all know that's like catnip to them – "It's not a CLIP it's a MAGAZINE!"

[poli-junkie]

2. Renew the Assault Weapons Ban!!!

[madville]

8. The AR-15 was still legal under that ban

The problem with the previous federal assault weapons ban is that it mostly just addressed cosmetic features, not the actual function of the weapon itself. Unless a new law bans the actual semi-automatic operation itself, it’s not going to be very effective.

[Irish_Dem]

3. Are we actually beginning to see some true courage from the American people?

Courage to stand up to the gun lovers?

Courage to stand up to the GOP.

Courage to stand up to corrupt judges and politicians?

Courage to protect our school children.

Courage is the virtue that makes all other virtues possible.

[Deuxcents]

4. The American people, yes. Unfortunately, those elected to actually do something, no

[Irish_Dem]

5. ***The courage of the American people is the only courage that matters.***

We The People own the power of the United States.

The government and legislators derive their power from American citizens.

Nothing will ever change until We The People step up to the plate and do our damn
jobs as citizens of what was once the greatest democracy in the history of the world.

[Deuxcents]

6. I so agree. Our power is our vote and we all need to do our duty as a citizen

[Irish_Dem]

13. Yes it will require courage and ability to be good citizens to fight this fight.

The American people will have to step up to the plate and do the right thing.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

10. Limit firepower, rate of fire, and capacity before reload, instead of marketing names

My single shot .22 is not a weapon of war or for mass shootings; neither is my 3 shot shotgun. People could make a reasonable argument that my 6 shot, single action revolver should be regulated by license or insurance or both.

Anything capable of a mass shooting should have appropriate restrictions and regulations, whether it's powered by gunpowder, air pressure, springs, or batteries.

[roamer65]

11. All semi-automatics larger than .22 need to go.

Allow hunting rifles, shotguns and revolvers larger than .22 with appropriate background checks and licensing.

That’s it.

[Hugh_Lebowski]

12. One thing I rarely see discussed is what is the definition of a 'ban'

actually is?

There's sales bans (further broken down to commercial vs. private) and there's open carry bans and concealed carry bans and 'can you shoot it at the gun range ban' to outright possession bans (which invites the question of active confiscation) and probably some types I don't even know about.

When someone just says 'ban' without making distinctions, it's a VERY nebulous term.

And the other 'side' takes advantage of this in so many ways.

I don't think we should even make posts talking about 'bans' w/o clarifying ... what would this 'ban' actually limit from happening?

Which also means that polls about the subject are practically useless when they just say 'do you support banning XYZ gun type/style?'.

[Johonny]

16. How many more mass shootings does a person

need to see the obvious

For the vast majority it is zero more. Yet our politicians are cowards.

[Rafi]

17. Limiting magazine capacity would be a good start.

If you can't hit a deer within ten shots you need to spend time at the range. Actually five shot capacity would be better.

[Initech]

18. The "shall not be infringed" dipshits will be weighing in in 3... .2... 1...