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Does Woke mean educated? I'm confused. I think (Original Post) leftyladyfrommo Jun 2023 OP
Aware of the existence of FalloutShelter Jun 2023 #1
Woke means becoming aware of implications to 'normal' things you never noticed before. marble falls Jun 2023 #2
I believe it has more to do with denying basic rights to people EYESORE 9001 Jun 2023 #3
What "WOKE" means to me.... ProudMNDemocrat Jun 2023 #4
The only people against woke people are the people of nonsense. Bluethroughu Jun 2023 #5
To me, "woke" means being aware of the pernicious bigotry in our society William Seger Jun 2023 #6
So basically, wokr means something different to leftyladyfrommo Jun 2023 #7
It's an undefined term that is used when they don't know what else to say Buckeyeblue Jun 2023 #8
But some of them aren't dumb. And those are the ones leftyladyfrommo Jun 2023 #9
I guess it depends on how you define dumb Buckeyeblue Jun 2023 #12
In SLC though probably 95% of people when I was there leftyladyfrommo Jun 2023 #19
They haven't made up their own form of it ExWhoDoesntCare Jun 2023 #24
To me it just means you GIVE A FUCK... jcgoldie Jun 2023 #10
To me it boils down to compassion The Blue Flower Jun 2023 #11
Yeah, "empathy" nails it. n/t Hugin Jun 2023 #14
In my unwashed subjective opinion, I believe being "woke" means that one has... Hugin Jun 2023 #13
"Woke" is being educable sanatanadharma Jun 2023 #15
DeSantis spelled it right - his battle against woke is against truth RainCaster Jun 2023 #16
"Woke" is a pejorative designed to demonize Democrats. Irish_Dem Jun 2023 #17
A good synonym for woke is the word wise.... KY_EnviroGuy Jun 2023 #18
I thought woke covered environmentalists. leftyladyfrommo Jun 2023 #20
No. Just...no. ExWhoDoesntCare Jun 2023 #25
I think it means "Aware of Injustice." Basic LA Jun 2023 #21
It's America. You don't need a reason to get shot. Qutzupalotl Jun 2023 #22
"When I use a word, it means just what I choose it to mean." gulliver Jun 2023 #23
Here's it's origins: Hong Kong Cavalier Jun 2023 #26
Yes. Same as "elite" as an insult. betsuni Jun 2023 #27

EYESORE 9001

(25,812 posts)
3. I believe it has more to do with denying basic rights to people
Sun Jun 4, 2023, 08:53 AM
Jun 2023

I’ve heard the term most frequently used when trying to undermine the civil rights of others, African Americans and LGBTQ communities being their most prominent targets.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,487 posts)
4. What "WOKE" means to me....
Sun Jun 4, 2023, 08:57 AM
Jun 2023

For me, WOKE means aware of my surroundings, educated, well read on a variety of topics, possessing intellectual curiosity, empathetic and caring, having choices, as well as moving FORWARD.

Those in opposition to this will get left behind. There is a saying in Minnesota that describes others who remain asleep(ignorant)..."Two beers shy of a six pack."

Bluethroughu

(5,096 posts)
5. The only people against woke people are the people of nonsense.
Sun Jun 4, 2023, 08:58 AM
Jun 2023


And that's what I'd say, if asked. It gives you plenty of time to stroll away before they've thought it through.

William Seger

(10,742 posts)
6. To me, "woke" means being aware of the pernicious bigotry in our society
Sun Jun 4, 2023, 09:02 AM
Jun 2023

... and no prize for guessing who would be opposed to an anti-bigotry movement.

Buckeyeblue

(5,491 posts)
8. It's an undefined term that is used when they don't know what else to say
Sun Jun 4, 2023, 09:10 AM
Jun 2023

It fits well with evangelicals, who tend to make up their own version of Christianity to fit their own bigotry, essentially god (another made up notion) sanctioned facism.

Maybe we should start calling them "sleepers". Since they are asleep to the realities of the world. But dumb is such a good word.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,816 posts)
9. But some of them aren't dumb. And those are the ones
Sun Jun 4, 2023, 09:21 AM
Jun 2023

I don't understand. I saw that alot with Mormons. I guess if you grow up with it just isn't something you question.

Buckeyeblue

(5,491 posts)
12. I guess it depends on how you define dumb
Sun Jun 4, 2023, 09:38 AM
Jun 2023

Just because you are college educated, a professional, a doctor, lawyer, teacher, programmer or have a technical skill, an electrician, a plumber, a mechanic, doesn't make you intelligent.

Intelligence is being able to evaluate facts to come to a logical conclusion. Being comfortable taking ambiguous problems or ideas and making sense of them. And being curious. Curious about the world, about people and about ideas.

Being dumb doesn't mean you can't function. It means you can only function in favorable conditions.

I think there are intelligent people who manipulate the dumb people. Who make their lack of intelligence a virtue. But we know these people who manipulate the dumb don't believe a word of what they are saying. They see an opportunity to sell a thirsty man a glass of sand. And they pounce.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,816 posts)
19. In SLC though probably 95% of people when I was there
Sun Jun 4, 2023, 11:30 AM
Jun 2023

were Mormon. Their whole life was Mormon. School teachers were all Mormon. Student teachers all came from BYU. Almost all social life was in the churches. All their church friends went to their school. It's so interwoven It's really difficult to get free.

I had Anthropology professors that were good Mormons.
They kept their religion in a separate box and somehow they played 2 distinct roles.

It's a strange phenomena.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
24. They haven't made up their own form of it
Mon Jun 5, 2023, 09:44 PM
Jun 2023

Any more than any other christian sect has.

All of them have picked and chosen what to follow from the book--catholics, mainstream protestants, mormoms, evangelicals. None are exempt from that.

Just because they picked other parts from the ones you did only means that they picked something different. Not that they did anything unusual.

Because they didn't.

The Blue Flower

(5,420 posts)
11. To me it boils down to compassion
Sun Jun 4, 2023, 09:37 AM
Jun 2023

Caring for the lives and well-being of others, who may or may not be different from you.

Hugin

(32,783 posts)
13. In my unwashed subjective opinion, I believe being "woke" means that one has...
Sun Jun 4, 2023, 10:00 AM
Jun 2023

A clear understanding that empirical facts have a distinctly liberal bias no matter how much someone yells.

sanatanadharma

(3,639 posts)
15. "Woke" is being educable
Sun Jun 4, 2023, 10:23 AM
Jun 2023

"Woke" is being educable, capable of learning.

Maga are 'minds against gaining accuracy', or un-educable; having (some) knowledge without 'understanding'

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,483 posts)
18. A good synonym for woke is the word wise....
Sun Jun 4, 2023, 11:30 AM
Jun 2023

and wisdom requires more than just education.

When we've been blind to something unjust or wrong such as racism, experiencing an awakening to that injustice usually happens from getting neck-deep into the trials and tribulations of others, thereby allowing us to experience humility.


KY......

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
25. No. Just...no.
Mon Jun 5, 2023, 09:49 PM
Jun 2023

It's a term that comes from black activism, so it's always meant being aware of social injustice.

And while environmentalism does play into social justice issues, it's not the primary association of the word. Only ancillary.

Basic LA

(1,714 posts)
21. I think it means "Aware of Injustice."
Sun Jun 4, 2023, 11:57 AM
Jun 2023

How can you demonize that? Well, I guess it's something Confederate States wouldn't want their enslaved people to be.

gulliver

(13,142 posts)
23. "When I use a word, it means just what I choose it to mean."
Sun Jun 4, 2023, 12:25 PM
Jun 2023

In the immortal words of Humpty Dumpty...

I would say "woke" and "educated" are very related words, for good and ill. To say one person is "woke" and another isn't implies that the other person is somehow asleep. That is a rude implication to make, and Miss Manners would likely not approve. Nor would Aristotle, I imagine. Nor would most people, in my opinion. I count myself in that group.

To say one person is "educated" and another isn't can imply roughly the same thing. When someone says, for example, "educate yourself," they're saying you're dumb. When someone says, "we will re-educate you," they're saying "You've been dumb, but in our purely motivated (and God- and democracy-consecrated) insistence that you agree with us, we'll tell you how to be like us." (What could be more generous?)

Alas for the two terms, they've both been co-opted and distorted. And a whole lot of people, as your OP implies, want to be in a world where words have precise, standardized, and consensus definitions.

Hong Kong Cavalier

(4,571 posts)
26. Here's it's origins:
Tue Jun 6, 2023, 12:16 AM
Jun 2023
https://www.vox.com/culture/21437879/stay-woke-wokeness-history-origin-evolution-controversy?fbclid=IwAR2ksHaijh9Ixj1jjxwBdbOXq69pflucx-BIjwVA46atkxhjQosTJn0andg

A few years later, the phrase “stay woke” turned up as part of a spoken afterword in the 1938 song “Scottsboro Boys,” a protest song by Blues musician Huddie Ledbetter, a.k.a. Lead Belly. The song describes the 1931 saga of a group of nine Black teenagers in Scottsboro, Arkansas, who were accused of raping two white women.

Lead Belly says at the end of an archival recording of the song that he’d met with the Scottsboro defendants’ lawyer, who introduced him to the men themselves. “I made this little song about down there,” Lead Belly says. “So I advise everybody, be a little careful when they go along through there — best stay woke, keep their eyes open.”


Up until the GOP's attempted to define it as something it's not, it meant to be cognizant of racially motivated threats and the inherent bias in the justice system against Black Americans

It rose to prominence again when Michael Brown was murdered in Ferguson. It has been adopted by both sides in different ways. I'll always look at it with its original meaning: the system is horribly biased against black people in America, it has been biased forever, and I don't know when we're going to get past this. (We being the collective 'we' of this whole country, not just us here on DU.)

When Phony Stark calls it the "woke mind virus" I just want to fucking punch the shitmaggot. Because of course an Apartheid baby would hate being made aware of injustice against black people in this world.

betsuni

(25,138 posts)
27. Yes. Same as "elite" as an insult.
Tue Jun 6, 2023, 12:17 AM
Jun 2023

Like Carters, Clintons. Obamas, Bidens -- all from working or middle class backgrounds, became out-of-touch coastal elite establishment status quo neoliberal corporatists ignoring the working class.

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