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ck4829

(34,976 posts)
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 04:37 PM Nov 2012

No, the unemployed are not incentivized to not find work, they're disincentivized to find work

Well, the Republicans haven't learned their lesson from the election. One's back at the game, blaming unemployment on the vast wealth one can get from unemployment benefits and on food stamps, because you know, crazy liberals and their ludicrous belief that people need to eat. Weird, right?

http://boldprogressives.org/republican-congressman-says-jobless-americans-are-simply-too-lazy-to-find-work/

No, the unemployed do not get incentives to not find work; they get obstruction, roadblocks, delays, excuses, checks, tests, filters, catch-22's, and hoops to jump through to get them what? The crumbs, and that's if they beat the four other applicants who also wanted the job? Oh wow.

You'll find very few people who don't think people on unemployment benefits should be looking for work, but YOU sit on your thumbs when...

The pay rate of the people at the top is four hundred times more than the people at the bottom. Don't you think that they might be able to hire just a couple more people if it was a little less exponential?

Reports come out of employers telling the unemployed to not even bother applying. There you go, pretend the unemployed don't need to find work. Then there is the matter of credit checks in hiring. Just a little hard to pay your bills to get your credit up when you can't get a job to pay your bills. Also it's the modern day phrenology. Should consider regulating it, just for sanity's sake.

People suggest that we could use a new CCC or WPA. No, wait, you don't sit on your thumbs. You scream and run out of the room. Unemployment is a problem, but not big enough to have an employer of last resort?

Our infrastructure and public transportation systems are crumbling. Could not only create jobs directly in those fields, but not every person has a Mercedes Benz in their car elevator, more buses could help them out.

Remove the roadblocks and hoops to employment before claiming a person can get a mortgage on a mansion through unemployment benefits and food stamps. 'Kay?

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No, the unemployed are not incentivized to not find work, they're disincentivized to find work (Original Post) ck4829 Nov 2012 OP
unemployment ran out in august MsFlorida Nov 2012 #1
Best wishes to you. n/t PoliticAverse Nov 2012 #2
Best of luck! DJ13 Nov 2012 #3
kr HiPointDem Nov 2012 #4
People want to work. Employers don't want to pay real wages. Initech Nov 2012 #5
My brother had the option to collect pretty attractive unemployment benefits democrattotheend Nov 2012 #6
Nobody wants to live on unemployment. GoCubsGo Nov 2012 #8
Work is a psychological and emotional need ck4829 Nov 2012 #9
"Four other applicants"? GoCubsGo Nov 2012 #7

MsFlorida

(488 posts)
1. unemployment ran out in august
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 04:45 PM
Nov 2012

wasnt much, but kept the lights on, which I was thankful for. I've been looking for work for over a year and a half now. Have sent out OVER 3000 resumes.

Recently, I've removed my education and experience. Today, called for an interview. Wish me luck, light candles, say novenas. I'm out of money looking at a disconnect notice and I WANT to go back to work.

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
6. My brother had the option to collect pretty attractive unemployment benefits
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 05:21 PM
Nov 2012

while living with my dad rent free. But after a few weeks, he decided to look for a new job anyway, because he got tired of sitting around and wanted to get his career back on track. And he can be pretty lazy, but even he didn't want to sit around collecting unemployment benefits. I think there are very few people who prefer to collect unemployment when they could get a job.

Sadly, my brother's new job didn't work out, but he's out there looking again and he's not content to just collect unemployment. I don't think too many people are.

GoCubsGo

(32,061 posts)
8. Nobody wants to live on unemployment.
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 05:29 PM
Nov 2012

I don't know in which state your brother lives, but in most states, the unemployment compensation sucks. It's not even enough to pay the bills, especially if you have kids. It doesn't even cover COBRA, let alone the mortgage/rent, utility bills and groceries. And, that is the most galling thing about these assholes who make the accusation that people on unemployment would rather sit around and collect that, rather than working. People who got laid off don't want to sit at home. They want to be back at their old fucking jobs, making enough to live on, and maybe even put money into savings. I truly hope that anyone who has that "they don't want to work" mentality loses their job, and has to learn first-hand what it's like to try to find a job while nearly a million of your fellow Americans are losing their own jobs every damn month.

ck4829

(34,976 posts)
9. Work is a psychological and emotional need
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 05:30 PM
Nov 2012

I think people who say that there are vast hordes content with just getting welfare failed Psych 101 (Probably because something like that has a liberal bias to them, I'm sure), but wanting to work; do something worthwhile, get and utilize skills, achieve something, and participate in a process that sees something come to fruition is a drive that humans possess, and not wanting to do that is abnormal. Yet nobody is calling NIMH or any other organization like that up, because if what they say is true then we've got an epidemic on our hands.

GoCubsGo

(32,061 posts)
7. "Four other applicants"?
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 05:23 PM
Nov 2012

Add at least one, and up to three zeroes to that, and you'll paint a far more realistic picture of what it's like for us. The only time one is up against only four other applicants is if they are lucky enough to make the final cut.

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