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vlyons

(10,252 posts)
Tue Aug 15, 2023, 11:21 AM Aug 2023

All the people dragged under in the wake of Trump

Makes me wonder how many more people, the still hangers-on and never-say-die people, whose lives will be destroyed by their cultish allegience to Trump. Of course it's their own fault. Ignorantly swept along by the thrill of getting away with something. Win at all costs; it doesn't matter. Most knew, probably all knew that their guy lost the election. I feel great sadness for them. The best that I can hope for (besides jail for Trump and his co-defendants) is that this will be an object lesson for many many generations that election fraud is not worth doing.

What do you hope for?

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snowybirdie

(5,541 posts)
1. At least
Tue Aug 15, 2023, 11:28 AM
Aug 2023

these upper middle class political operatives must hire expensive legal help and must face local humiliation. Little Johnny probably won't be able to afford Emory. Sad!

mopinko

(71,446 posts)
8. i feel sorry for the it guy. nauta, tho? he took an oath.
Tue Aug 15, 2023, 11:39 AM
Aug 2023

he’s not some innocent flunky.
same w the guy who emptied the pool. dude worked his was up from valet to property manager. that doesnt happen in orange world cuz you’re smart.

Aristus

(67,916 posts)
3. No sympathy for people who make poor choices in the hopes of hurting other people.
Tue Aug 15, 2023, 11:31 AM
Aug 2023

"I'm going to ruin my life because he hates the same people I hate!" is a pretty stupid fucking way to behave. Why should anyone have sympathy for such fecklessness?

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
9. Why? Because of the suffering they bring upon themselves and others
Tue Aug 15, 2023, 11:46 AM
Aug 2023

As a Buddhist, I am taught to have compassion for all sentient beings equally and without exception. Yes, even for the stupid degenerate Trump cultists. They stupidly do not understand that their felonious behavior will have dreadful consequences for themselves and their families. Am I not allowed to feel sorry for them? Compassion is not a get out of jail free card, or a let's pretend it never happened. I believe in the law of karma, which means that actions have consequences. Karma is just like gravity in that it never stops working.

Aristus

(67,916 posts)
13. No, I meant me.
Tue Aug 15, 2023, 12:36 PM
Aug 2023

Of course you can feel sympathy for them. I have a great deal of admiration for the tenets of Buddhism. But as you pointed out, actions have consequences. If they inflicted harm upon themselves in the hopes of causing suffering in others, that's karma in action. And I'm not required to feel sympathy for people who intentionally inflict suffering on others.

The Unmitigated Gall

(4,373 posts)
4. Hope my popcorn holds out
Tue Aug 15, 2023, 11:33 AM
Aug 2023

While I watch these bastards drown.

I know that sounds dark, but these people tried to steal our democracy; hell, they’re still trying now.

Brainfodder

(7,141 posts)
12. Their base approve of delay games so transparent they can't be seen?
Tue Aug 15, 2023, 11:54 AM
Aug 2023

The blanket partisan excuse if given, remind them that most witnesses are Republicans! Grand Jury of citizens, not partisan democrats!

His talking BS does not erase THE MOUNTAIN OF EVIDENCE! either!

THE future lies and BS to cover for him, SAD AF, all for manipulating political simpletons who vote for their party and the $ trails that need to be followed!

TICK TOCK!




RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
5. No sympathy at all. They knew damn well exactly what they were up to and doing. Throw the book
Tue Aug 15, 2023, 11:34 AM
Aug 2023

at them IMO.

FakeNoose

(35,116 posts)
7. Last year we heard the testimony of Cassidy Hutchinson and other young staffers
Tue Aug 15, 2023, 11:39 AM
Aug 2023

People like Cassidy shouldn't be prosecuted, it's the bosses and policy-makers who need to be charged and convicted. Or at the very least, investigated. Yes Cassidy should have known better, and she wasn't a child. But she finally started to figure things out on her own, so did Hope Hicks and many others.

Once the Emoluments report gets released - the one Jamie Raskin announced on Sunday - people are going to be so shocked and dismayed over the Chump family's greed and grasping. Also the greed of some of Chump's higher-up policy makers. Greed for money and power, that's what it was all about.

The young staffers mostly had no clue.

efhmc

(14,905 posts)
14. Those people (cultists) are never shocked by anything TFG does.
Tue Aug 15, 2023, 01:10 PM
Aug 2023

They will always find excuses and call it lies.

Beachnutt

(7,973 posts)
10. Like the covid deniers that laid in the hospital
Tue Aug 15, 2023, 11:49 AM
Aug 2023

on ventilators denying covid exist while dying.
Or the climate deniers who stand in water up to their neck in their living room and say climate change isn't real.
Or the idiots that hate Obamacare but are on it and love the benefit.
They're all fools.
Fox news has really done a number on the fools.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
11. Good riddance and no more like him and those drawn to that?
Tue Aug 15, 2023, 11:51 AM
Aug 2023

I've been too frightened for all of us, Vlyons, to be able to feel sad for them. That kind of generosity toward those who'd do me harm is possible when I feel safe from them.

As it is, they're enormously fortunate that others are protecting them from themselves. When they get mostly past this, some may have left themselves with little, but assuming we succeed, they'll still be able to vote, look police in the eye, and collect Social Security.

global1

(25,809 posts)
15. Finally We Hear The Name Of Mark Meadows - But I Still Think A Few People Have Been Left Out.....
Tue Aug 15, 2023, 01:37 PM
Aug 2023

Roger Stone
Steve Bannon
Paul Manafort
Mike Lindell
Mike Flynn
Ginny Thomas
Lindsey
The Tr**p Kids: Ivanka, Eric, Don Jr.
Jarad
And all those others that asked for a pardon and didn't get one.

I got to think that many of these people had knowledge of this alleged conspiracy and should be part and parcel to this RICO case.


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