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(1,404 posts)How would they know it wasnt republicans calling?
JohnSJ
(96,925 posts)DemocraticPatriot
(5,410 posts)for whom *most* of us here voted in the primaries?
The picture is beginning to become clearer to me---
"words matter more than post counts" and all that....
"How would they know it wasnt republicans calling?" INDEED!
regnaD kciN
(26,666 posts)I just callled her and told her to GET BEHIND JOE!
JustAnotherGen
(33,960 posts)brooklynite
(96,882 posts)Mister Ed
(6,417 posts)Despite the nickname, it would appear those reps are not a monolithic block.
Cha
(306,162 posts)JustAnotherGen
(33,960 posts)She's the one who always has snacks.
Keepthesoulalive
(868 posts)If she does think he should quit who should replace him. Without a viable option it is just noise and attention seeking.
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)If he cant get the House and Senate Caucuses to coalesce around him, his chances of winning are greatly reduced.
Keepthesoulalive
(868 posts)They are just making noise. They should stop asking Joe to quit and they dont have anyone who can beat sick f
sheshe2
(88,602 posts)shrike3
(5,370 posts)But the little people don't count. Only activists, donors and congresspeople, right?
Cha
(306,162 posts)brooklynite
(96,882 posts)Those arent the voters people are worried about.
The Magistrate
(96,043 posts)All these people are doing is making campaign ads for Trump: look at poor old fumbly Sleepy Joe....
I cannot believe these people do not know two things.
First, disparaging their incumbent aids the other side in the general election campaign.
Second, Mr. Biden is not going to withdraw and there is no mechanism by which they might compel him to do so.
Personally, I am accustomed to ignoring what people say about the intention behind their actions, and look instead to the predictable consequences of their actions. I assume anyone much over primary school age is aware of the likely consequences of their actions, and intends them. The only alternative is that they are simply stupid.
shrike3
(5,370 posts)I get it, you're only into donors and activists. That's what interests you. But do you really think the average voter is getting excited by this awful mess they see on their TV every day. If they're even watching. I hang out with normal people and NO ONE cares about the debate. NO ONE. Granted, I'm one person, but it seems to me the only ones having a tizzy are your donors, activists, insiders, media types and people who haven't met a normal person in years.
Blaukraut
(5,929 posts)They had them made up a long time ago. Likely even before the debate. Biden is doing everything they demanded he do to prove he is still able to run a campaign and run the country. But nothing will be enough for these people now. They never had any intention of letting him prove himself. That much is clear by now.
edisdead
(3,359 posts)Seriously?
What should he do? duct tape their mouths?
I have had it with your ridiculous nit picking of our president.
Please stop.
Cha
(306,162 posts)Lifeafter70
(390 posts)Yeah and I once stayed at a Holiday Inn.
DemocraticPatriot
(5,410 posts)David Axelrod, for sure--- and duct tape is being kind.
MorbidButterflyTat
(2,660 posts)Probably sitting back with a whiskey watching the fuse ignite.
Cha
(306,162 posts)NEGATIVITY on Pres Joe Biden.
DemocraticPatriot
(5,410 posts)are doing plenty to damage the campaign of our likely presidential nominee....
They should buck up and display an ounce of political courage,
rather than going for their "fifteen minutes of fame" with the media wh****...
edisdead
(3,359 posts)Hold up wait a minute back it up
. Something just aint adding up.
Well actually it is.
Tell me more about all these donor calls you sit on.
I want to know more about them. Because.
Now we know that the investor and donor class is withholding $90M from Dem House Reps unless Joe steps down.
Interesting.
And so Biden has indicated he intends to fulfill hos promise of letting Trump Tax Cuts die off
..
Shit is getting a WHOLE LOT CLEARER NOW!!!!
A whole lot of shit is getting a lot clearer.
BComplex
(9,181 posts)You're absolutely right about that!
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)emulatorloo
(45,646 posts)But ok. Thanks for posting.
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)That would be another voice in Congress asking Biden to step aside. Thats data to be considered.
emulatorloo
(45,646 posts)choie
(4,781 posts)WE do. Your peeps who are democratic operatives better get with the program, because the democratic base will not forget.
sheshe2
(88,602 posts)You never answer questions you just post OP's about calling for his resignation. You are not always so reticent with informing us about what your group is thinking, you posted a full transcript of your phone conversation the other night.
So please inform us here at DU the name of the person your group will be submitting at the convention. We Democrats deserve to know this so we can be ready for it.
Thanks in advance.
The Magistrate
(96,043 posts)Surely the Democrats in the House and Senate can coalesce behind the Party's nominee all on their own?
They don't need anything from Mr. Biden to do that, just their own mother-wit, and loyalty to our Party. And perhaps a bit of courage, spiked with a resolve to say nothing more than fuck off, I support our Party's nominee to journalists sniffing for dirt....
MorbidButterflyTat
(2,660 posts)How should President Biden stop Congressional Democrats from saying he should step aside? His successful record isn't enough? His multiple public appearances before and since the doomed "debate" aren't enough? Our foreign allies supporting him isn't enough? His landslide wins in the primary aren't enough? The fact that the KGOP is running a GD criminal felon pathological lying psychopath rapist traitor?? Not enough?
Maybe he should bribe them back? Threaten them? Hold a gun to their heads under a blinding spotlight while tied to a chair? Water boarding?
Cori Bush didn't say anything.
President Biden has said plenty, and HE'S NOT RESIGNING. HE IS THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE FOR PRESIDENT. THE END.
JC on a cracker, let it go. This place has become unreadable with all the never ending bullshit.
LET IT GO.
Indykatie
(3,853 posts)She is already vulnerable to an upset in the primary and if she says Biden should step aside that should seal her fate.
Cha
(306,162 posts)JohnSJ
(96,925 posts)supports that position.
Calls into a politician's office are not necessarily a consensus, and seeing that election in Rep. Bush's district is a dead heat, are definitely not necessarily representative of that district.
jmbar2
(6,278 posts)SalviaBlue
(3,033 posts)Are they threatening to withhold funding if she doesnt fall in line?
Sympthsical
(10,411 posts)She may be waiting to see what the Chief Rabbi of Gaza says about all this.
(it's an amusing story to those unfamiliar)
betsuni
(27,353 posts)ColinC
(11,064 posts)CivicGrief
(177 posts)You don't seem to be bashing Bush here. Do you relish bad news for Biden? I know, you report and we decide.
DemocraticPatriot
(5,410 posts)If it turns out that it comes to pass, then I won't be any fan of Cori Bush, either---
and I am pretty far left....
Plenty of us here have posted negative stories, ESPECIALLY about Trump and the maggots---
it doesn't mean that we agree with the 'point of view' of the subjects of those stories,
or that we are cheering on any negative stories about President Biden...
It maybe sometimes be demoralizing to hear 'bad news',
but I would rather know about it than remain in ignorance about it.
That is his viewpoint. Unfortunately, there's been a lot of 'bad news' lately...
Everyone here is pretty well 'dug in' on their positions,
and unlikely to change their mind based upon any posted materials...
choie
(4,781 posts)it's of the democratic operatives and donors. And they are cowards and self-serving.
LisaL
(46,805 posts)Biden is not going anywhere.
Gore1FL
(22,025 posts)It's a pretty safe Democratic seat. Whoever wins the primary is pretty much getting the job.
oasis
(51,847 posts)Im 100% not buying it.
Cha
(306,162 posts)she doesn't even like PJB.
maxrandb
(16,056 posts)Polybius
(18,685 posts)It's about Cori Bush talking about what's currently in the news. For the record, I'd take Biden on his worse day over her.
TwilightZone
(28,834 posts)maxrandb
(16,056 posts)calling for him to step aside is absolutely "fighting the last presidential primary".
TwilightZone
(28,834 posts)Nothing that is happening now has anything to do with the primaries. It was triggered by the debate, months after the primaries were effectively over.
Deek1935
(1,055 posts)And all over one FUCKING debate! It is sickening and disgusting. Look at that speech in MI today. Look at the NATO summit. Look at the GREAT press conference last night, a MASTERCLASS on foreign policy. About 25 events of all kinds since the debate.
For christ sake.
yorkster
(2,577 posts)turning point. Enough of this. I'm angrier now than I was listening to MSNBC right after the debate.
I said on another post that we have a terrific Pres. and an excellent VP with a helluva background.
So, get behind Joe and Kamala.
W_HAMILTON
(8,595 posts)The primary was held and the voters have spoken.
Trying to overthrow our democratically nominated candidate for the presidency is absolutely fighting over the last primary. I can see why you wouldn't want it to be, because you have repeatedly attacked Biden and can't seem to come to grips with the fact that he is OUR NOMINEE -- period.
Polybius
(18,685 posts)Last I heard, it was competitive because of what she did.
Cha
(306,162 posts)Celerity
(47,157 posts)Wesley Bell is very progressive, so I shall not shed a single tear if Bush goes down.
Now, that poll was put out by a pro-Israel], anti-Bush advocacy group and PAC (but, and it is a BIG but, unlike AIPAC, it has never supported or endorsed any Republicans, especially not the 109 traitorous, insurrectionist Rethugs that AIPAC supported in 2022).
Cori Bush, challenger Wesley Bell locked in dead heat: Survey
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4740969-cori-bush-challenger-wesley-bell-locked-in-dead-heat-survey/
Rep. Cori Bush (D-Mo.) and her primary challenger, Wesley Bell, are locked in a dead heat in what is expected to be a competitive primary in August, according to a poll released this week.
The survey, conducted by the polling firm The Mellman Group for the organization Democratic Majority for Israel showed Bell, the St. Louis County prosecuting attorney, ahead of Bush by 1 point 43 percent to 42 percent a difference well within the margin of error. This is a notable improvement for Bell from January, when a poll by the firm found Bush leading by 16 points.
The survey this month also found that 11 percent of respondents were undecided, and 4 percent said they supported another candidate. But the pollsters found some signs that may benefit Bell as the Show Me States Aug. 6 primary date approaches. Among the most consistent primary voters those who voted in three of the most recent primaries Bell led Bush by 10 points, 49 percent to 39 percent.
He also has an advantage in job approval and overall favorability, according to the poll. The survey found that 61 percent of respondents said they approve of Bells job performance, while 27 percent disapprove, compared to 49 percent who approve of Bushs performance and 45 percent who disapprove. Both candidates are viewed favorably, but Bell has the slight edge, with 64 percent viewing him favorably compared to the incumbents 60 percent.
OAITW r.2.0
(28,911 posts)Hating on Biden?
edisdead
(3,359 posts)W_HAMILTON
(8,595 posts)...the Killer B's that didn't need to kiss the ring for a few bucks and a certain segment of the donor class is upset because of it.
They didnt bend the knee and feed their narcissistic egos.
They have no control over them and they absolutely DESPISE it.
DemocraticPatriot
(5,410 posts)but now acknowledged to be a line spoken by many of the time, with no clear original author,
"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and to remove all doubt."
Any elected officeholder who wants to continue to be thought of as a 'loyal Democrat',
should know when to keep their mouth shut,
if they want to be thought of as a 'competent Democratic politician'.
As far as I am concerned, all those who call for President Biden to 'step aside'
shall be known hereafter by me, as the
"weak hands and watery bowels" gang....
... and I have a long memory for some things
krawhitham
(4,915 posts)FHRRK
(996 posts)Those high dollar donors got a message tonight.
And that is, STFU, the fighters in the Democratic Party got this!
Prairie Gates
(3,667 posts)brooklynite
(96,882 posts)Currently more than 10% of the Hpuse Caucus have asked Biden to step aside. That has to be dealt with or well lose in November whether Biden or Harris or someone else is the nominee.
choie
(4,781 posts)The constituents of the 10% traitorous reps need to call/email/tweet/visit their offices and let them know that they have no right to take away their votes.
That's how. Not by collaborating, conspiring with or enabling them.
FHRRK
(996 posts)State school education but I think 90>10!
And, once again, not about you!, Not an insult either. Report back to your "elite" and tell them, the base is fucking pissed off and done with the lame assed bullshit. Get on board or get run over.
ret5hd
(21,320 posts)and you will pay more in taxes.
Deal with it.
tritsofme
(18,736 posts)we get through this and win.
Cori Bush and I dont generally agree on matters of party strategy, but I appreciate how she and others are respectfully approaching the situation.
LisaL
(46,805 posts)It's good to know what she thinks.
Demsrule86
(71,036 posts)And who gives a fuck the what she says.
LisaL
(46,805 posts)So it can be done now.
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MorbidButterflyTat
(2,660 posts)Anybody can be a podcaster. Seems important, though.