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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGeorge W. Bush should be sending Cards of Thanks to Donald Trump.
The former war criminal can paint easy, knowing the American people can no longer be focused on his war crimes.
Easterncedar
(3,098 posts)But we were never going to hold him accountable
proud patriot
(100,997 posts)Poiuyt
(18,234 posts)He's no longer the worst president in American history.
ShazzieB
(18,254 posts)If Buchanan was the worst (pre Trump), A. Johnson was the second worst. He really screwed up Reconstruction. Stinking Confederate sympathizer.
Permanut
(6,447 posts)pat_k
(10,384 posts)The impeachment of G.W. Bush might have served as a moral reckoning and a recommitment to fundamental values grounded in basic human rights and dignity. In the wake of Nixon's impeachment we saw substantial reforms and renewed commitment to ethics. Had the impeachment of G.W. and Cheney for war crimes taken place -- whatever the outcome -- I think it would have left in it's wake a reaffirmation of the rights and values so many have fought and died for. And, had there been such a national reaffirmation, it could have provided a protective shield against Trump and his base impulses and wanton disregard for our constitution and basic human rights.
We can never know the road not taken, but perhaps somewhere in the multiverse there is even an America that did not go down the war crimes path in the first place because it's Congress rightly judged and threw out the electors appointed pursuant to the incomplete, and therefore unlawful Florida election on 01/06/2001.
OAITW r.2.0
(27,649 posts)Otherwise, we pay the price for generations to come.
pat_k
(10,384 posts)Bypassing the sometimes messy work of holding perpetrators accountable in a race to "put it behind us and make sure it doesn't happen again" has always mystified me. How can you make sure it doesn't happen again if the perpetrators aren't held accountable? Reforms aimed at preventing future perpetrators are all well and good, but you've got to deal with the current perpetrators too.
There is a reason the same names keep showing up from scandal to scandal over the decades.
Ligyron
(7,831 posts)You can be sure they would have been held accountable and referred to constantly as examples of Democratic corruption going forward.
How can you make sure it doesn't happen again if the perpetrators aren't held accountable?
Thats THE Question of This Whole Era.
myohmy2
(3,563 posts)...he hasn't openly sicced old man cheney on trump's ass...
...trump has hosed on just about everything bush and cheney represented...
...which doesn't sound bad until you consider replacing bush/cheney shit with even more stinky trump shit...
...what good has come from the republican party...?
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rubbersole
(8,200 posts)...daddy's Carlisle Group mountain of inherited money. And Darth Cheney has Haliburton gains he and his second heart could never spend. Above it all and layin' low while livin' large. And remember - t*u*p isn't the snake, he's the rattle.
GoreWon2000
(833 posts)creating the Presidential election theft roadmap in Florida 2000 that he's now using. No doubt the crooked Bush brothers are laughing all the way to the bank. They destroy our country with their anti democracy Florida 2000 election stealing scheme.
OAITW r.2.0
(27,649 posts)Looking at you Maureen Day-O'Connor.
GoreWon2000
(833 posts)I worry they'll do it again in 2024.
rubbersole
(8,200 posts)...which pleases Jeb! to no end. And yes, they are still laughing all the way to the bank.
GoreWon2000
(833 posts)bushthief to get close enough in Florida to have his little brother steal the election for him along with help from the Rehnquist 5.
returnee
(239 posts)Helping to remove ~90,000 voters from the voting rolls.
We could never punish these people more than they deserve. Nader was at worst a side show to the main show.
GoreWon2000
(833 posts)Nader siphoned off enough crucial votes for Al Gore in Florida to make it possible for bushthief to get close enough to have his little brother steal the 2000 election in Florida.
Kid Berwyn
(17,443 posts)Just after sinking all BFEE enemies like an honest Intel community and Justice Department, and letting go targets of opportunity like Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin.
madamesilverspurs
(15,998 posts)Count me among those who aren't willing to remove W's name from the list of awfuls. He, Reagan, and Daddy Bush helped to pave the way for Trump. At some point, who did the worst becomes irrelevant, they all swim in the same sewer and the depth of the cistern doesn't matter.
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Buckeyeblue
(5,654 posts)I still think W was as bad as Trump. His presidency started with the worst terrorist attack on American soil and ended with the worst economic crises since the great depression.
W was an illegitimate president, appointed by the Supreme Court.
Rhiannon12866
(218,757 posts)Former President George W. Bush*...
GoreWon2000
(833 posts)bushthief created the Presidential election stealing roadmap that the orange turd based his 2020 election theft attempt on. The orange turd's 1/6/21 attack on the U.S. capitol stands on the shoulders of the 11/22/00 attack on Government Center in Miami that stopped the legal Florida vote count in Miami-Dade county and was organized and funded by bushthief's campaign including Roger Stone. No one from that 2000 attack was ever prosecuted. Liz Cheney's father was up to his eyeballs in helping bushthief stop the legal Florida vote count in 2000. Liz Cheney has never spoken out against the Bush brother's all out assault on American democracy in Florida in 2000.
onecaliberal
(35,318 posts)No longer.
GoreWon2000
(833 posts)It's the orange turd who should be sending a thank you to bushthief.
SamKnause
(13,685 posts)We need to look forwards, not backwards. Fuck that shit !!!
This approach emboldened them.
The entire Bush administration should be serving life in prison.
The entire republican party are criminals:
Nixon
Reagan
George W. Bush
Trump
BannonsLiver
(17,601 posts)1. 9/11 on his watch.
2. The Iraq invasion, which is the single worst American foreign policy decision since Vietnam, at the very least. Also destabilized the entire region.
3. Crashed the economy in 2008.
Trump was capable of worse but is so manifestly incompetent he couldnt get much done. He did more to destroy our cultural norms than W Bush, however.
Polybius
(17,123 posts)I agree, he was the worst in my lifetime too.
BannonsLiver
(17,601 posts)Can't believe I forgot about that one. There was so much during those years.
regnaD kciN
(26,490 posts)so should Richard Nixon, and make no mistake about that!
Kaleva
(37,796 posts)Especially when he counts amongst his friends the Clinton's and Obama's.
And if I recall correctly, Pelosi took impeachment off the table