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bdamomma

(67,000 posts)
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 07:20 PM Jan 9

Supreme Court Says NO

on Joy Reid

Denies request to the felon!!! HE WILL ALWAYS BE A CONVICTED FELON!!!!!!!

Hmm... could it be a parting gift from Jimmy to the felon????

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Supreme Court Says NO (Original Post) bdamomma Jan 9 OP
YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LeftInTX Jan 9 #1
Yes bdamomma Jan 9 #3
lol CatWoman Jan 9 #30
Notice how . . . Scubamatt Jan 9 #59
And m$$$$m... Corrupt.. that I know of. Cha Jan 9 #62
No Kidding.. of course! and John Roberts.. wow! Cha Jan 9 #61
i think Roberts is completely sick of Trump's bullshit CatWoman Jan 9 #69
Wouldn't that be KEEN! Cha Jan 9 #70
She has sided brakester Jan 10 #81
I remember.. TY. Cha Jan 10 #87
Possibility because that Trump BS is causing more scrutiny of the court than Roberts can stand up to Attilatheblond Jan 10 #74
Is this for real?! sheshe2 Jan 9 #2
Yes bdamomma Jan 9 #7
Holy shit! sheshe2 Jan 9 #14
Love this bdamomma Jan 9 #24
At least two of them did. sheshe2 Jan 9 #36
2 of the 6 got their Spines on today... Cha Jan 9 #63
And the women stood together! sheshe2 Jan 9 #67
I don't know how heavily the dotard is into retribution IzzaNuDay Jan 10 #71
Maybe being in proximity to the vile male justices is making it easier for her to see the roots of many problems? Attilatheblond Jan 10 #75
5 to 4 dflprincess Jan 9 #4
It should be 9-0 but this the most corrupt SC EVER! yourout Jan 9 #13
no kidding.. that's a surprise mountain grammy Jan 9 #17
It looks like at least 4 Justices are beyond redemption? kentuck Jan 9 #22
Yeah, but never forget hes got very selective hearing. Volaris Jan 9 #55
Barrett is interesting. I expected Kavanaugh to be more of a rule of law guy though. ColinC Jan 9 #57
Happily, Barrett seems to be the counter-balance for Kavanaugh. forgotmylogin Jan 10 #78
She seems fairly honest so far and not swayed by a ton of external interests quite yet. ColinC Jan 10 #79
Happy Dance! jls4561 Jan 9 #5
Yeeeeees! malaise Jan 9 #6
Yes! BlueKota Jan 9 #8
HELL YES! elleng Jan 9 #9
Hubby said Trump will lose his MAL club liquor license. LeftInTX Jan 9 #10
Perhaps to junior, the coke head.🤪 sheshe2 Jan 9 #15
Link here canetoad Jan 9 #11
This Part!!! sheshe2 Jan 9 #29
Yet again canetoad Jan 9 #51
I feel so bad for him.🤌 sheshe2 Jan 9 #54
Mahalo, she... & some were wondering why Cha Jan 9 #66
Ha. Quiet Em Jan 9 #12
President Felon is a felon? No way! Don't tell anyone! /nt bucolic_frolic Jan 9 #16
That will hurt his feefees. ProudMNDemocrat Jan 9 #18
Looks like Trump didn't offer a bigger bribe to the SC Justices. Irish_Dem Jan 9 #19
He got Alito Mad_Machine76 Jan 9 #44
Of course Alito should have recused himself but he is corrupt like the other GOPers. Irish_Dem Jan 10 #72
It's a good thing I bought some shares of Heinz a couple of days ago! madinmaryland Jan 9 #20
After sentencing can he appeal his conviction ? Beachnutt Jan 9 #21
I read he could Mad_Machine76 Jan 9 #45
I Am Not A Lawyer DallasNE Jan 9 #46
He's the sorest loser brakester Jan 10 #83
I Predicted Trump Would Go Running To Alito Hours Before DallasNE Jan 10 #86
Good call! brakester Jan 12 #88
Shocked! Shocked, I say! ... aggiesal Jan 9 #23
Now we can officially call trump The Felon President. ancianita Jan 9 #25
The forever title: Convicted Felon Donald Trump Auggie Jan 9 #26
He is a.... sheshe2 Jan 9 #33
Very good news! liberalla Jan 9 #27
But get this. Though he's said otherwise, Judge Merchan still might NOT grant unconditional discharge. ancianita Jan 9 #28
I did not know that about Bush, Canada and his DUI LeftInTX Jan 9 #31
Maybe it was vaguely mentioned? Shows how corporate media have ignored such negatives about their guys for a long time. ancianita Jan 9 #40
Imagine if a different (Democrat) First Lady had run over someone and killed them. Teacher of the Year Jan 10 #82
Let's imagine ourselves making more positive demands of our congress people and stop staring at the FOX trainwreck. ancianita Jan 10 #84
Note that was for a DUI, brakester Jan 10 #85
He is and always will be a "convicted felon". republianmushroom Jan 9 #32
From Imagine BidenRocks Jan 9 #34
Nicely played malaise Jan 9 #37
Tune in tomorrow for the sentencing of theSlobfather aka the Blobfather malaise Jan 9 #35
It's still a scary slim majority. Do the dissenting four explain themselves anywhere? LAS14 Jan 9 #38
They lied under oath to get confirmed.I don't think they care about explaining themselves. BComplex Jan 9 #58
Midas Touch discussion Sancho Jan 9 #39
Excuse me, but fuck that guy. dchill Jan 9 #41
WOW!!!!!!!!!! ShazzieB Jan 9 #42
Convicted forever? No... reACTIONary Jan 9 #43
Altogether now: Disaffected Jan 9 #47
This made me smile LetMyPeopleVote Jan 9 #48
Donald Trump can be sentenced Friday in hush money case, Supreme Court says in 5-4 ruling LetMyPeopleVote Jan 9 #49
There will be a recording of the sentencing hearing that will be released LetMyPeopleVote Jan 9 #50
What will history record about those four? Boomerproud Jan 9 #52
I don't find if his miserable sad ass has to be in the court. underpants Jan 9 #53
He doesn't. Iggo Jan 9 #65
This makes me so happy 😁!!! iluvtennis Jan 9 #56
Maybe they are starting to see the outrageous out of control monster that they created. usaf-vet Jan 9 #60
i think he just won't show up. Takket Jan 9 #64
He doesn't have to show up. Locutusofborg Jan 9 #68
They said no because he wasn't going to get anything orangecrush Jan 10 #73
Excellent. Martin68 Jan 10 #76
I hate to rain on the parade gab13by13 Jan 10 #77
It's only words. and words are all we have to take his insanity away... GreenWave Jan 10 #80

Scubamatt

(99 posts)
59. Notice how . . .
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 10:12 PM
Jan 9

the complicit media is steadfastly ignoring orange man's call with Alito, and how Alito of course voted in favor of granting the petition? This is one of the most corrupt Supreme Court's since Buchanan reached out directly to Justices Catron and Grier in 1858 telling them to go beyond the particulars of th Dred Scott case and issue a decision legitimizing slavery throughout the United States.

Cha

(306,241 posts)
61. No Kidding.. of course! and John Roberts.. wow!
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 10:37 PM
Jan 9

Mump Specifically ordered to SHUT IT DOWN.

What were they thinking?~ The Dic has Spoken!

Attilatheblond

(4,870 posts)
74. Possibility because that Trump BS is causing more scrutiny of the court than Roberts can stand up to
Fri Jan 10, 2025, 10:56 AM
Jan 10

Looking deep into the Roberts Court and we will see corruption there is not new, and involves more than just Alito, Thomas, and The Beer Guy.

Cha

(306,241 posts)
63. 2 of the 6 got their Spines on today...
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 10:46 PM
Jan 9

This is Unheard of... I saw that Mump had taken it to the SC and thought... well there goes that. SIGH!

Mahalo, bdamomma~

sheshe2

(88,741 posts)
67. And the women stood together!
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 11:19 PM
Jan 9

Amy Coney Barrett shocked me. Maybe she is not a complete Handmaiden.

IzzaNuDay

(756 posts)
71. I don't know how heavily the dotard is into retribution
Fri Jan 10, 2025, 12:02 AM
Jan 10

but hope at least the 5 justices voting are protected from the dotard’s retribution. But then, if the dotard does try to retaliate after Jan 20, the SCOTUS may have to reconsider that previous immunity verdict. Betcha they didn’t think of that scenario!

Attilatheblond

(4,870 posts)
75. Maybe being in proximity to the vile male justices is making it easier for her to see the roots of many problems?
Fri Jan 10, 2025, 11:02 AM
Jan 10

Could be tired of being taken for granted. Maybe even seeing the horrible results of her working on the case for W Bush to get the FL recount stopped in 2020. A LOT of very bad things resulted from that hand-over of the presidency to Dick Cheney.

kentuck

(113,048 posts)
22. It looks like at least 4 Justices are beyond redemption?
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 07:33 PM
Jan 9

That is good information to know.

Volaris

(10,686 posts)
55. Yeah, but never forget hes got very selective hearing.
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 09:05 PM
Jan 9

This is an easy one that he can use for credibility cover, so when he votes to overturn Obergefell, he can claim he's just calling balls and strikes again.

ColinC

(11,093 posts)
57. Barrett is interesting. I expected Kavanaugh to be more of a rule of law guy though.
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 09:52 PM
Jan 9

Not sure why given his drunken senate committee tirade, but he seemed to be well respected academically which led me to think his opinions would also be more respectable. Whatever...

forgotmylogin

(7,706 posts)
78. Happily, Barrett seems to be the counter-balance for Kavanaugh.
Fri Jan 10, 2025, 12:35 PM
Jan 10

I know her politics don't align with ours, but I'm impressed she seems to be a neutral jurist, and doesn't seem completely in anyone's pocket. Similar to Roberts who can be infuriating but seems to at least consider what side of the scale he comes down on from time to time.

I'm tired of holding out hope, but it's a fantasy that if/when Cannon gets appointed to the SC that Barrett might slap some sense into her.

LeftInTX

(31,487 posts)
10. Hubby said Trump will lose his MAL club liquor license.
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 07:25 PM
Jan 9

Of course, he can probably transfer it to someone else.

canetoad

(18,412 posts)
11. Link here
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 07:25 PM
Jan 9
Supreme Court refuses to delay Trump’s hush money sentencing

A divided Supreme Court refused to delay Donald Trump’s sentencing in his hush money case, clearing the way for the president-elect to face judgment in a New York courtroom on Friday and to be formally classified as a felon before he returns to the White House.

Trump turned to the Supreme Court in a last-ditch effort to stop the hearing, citing the conservative majority’s explosive opinion in July that granted him and other former presidents immunity from criminal prosecution for their official acts.

He is set to be sentenced Friday, after a jury convicted him of 34 counts of falsifying business records related to a hush money payment made to an adult-film actress during the 2016 election. New York Supreme Court Justice Juan Merchan, who presided over Trump’s trial, has said he does not plan to give the incoming president jail time or probation.

But the completion of the sentencing hearing would formalize Trump’s status as the first former president or president-elect convicted of criminal wrongdoing — a designation Trump had hoped to avoid.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/01/09/trump-sentencing-supreme-court-new/

archive: https://archive.md/cUVEn

sheshe2

(88,741 posts)
29. This Part!!!
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 07:51 PM
Jan 9
But the completion of the sentencing hearing would formalize Trump’s status as the first former president or president-elect convicted of criminal wrongdoing — a designation Trump had hoped to avoid.

sheshe2

(88,741 posts)
54. I feel so bad for him.🤌
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 09:05 PM
Jan 9

He actually had a three-fer. Two courts ruled against him and he had to sit through President Carters funeral and have President Biden direct part of the eulogy straight at him. That part was about divisiveness and hate, perfect.

My header was... btw.

Cha

(306,241 posts)
66. Mahalo, she... & some were wondering why
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 11:01 PM
Jan 9

we were so Happy because he would not have any time in Prison.

Well there it is!.. Plus it makes Mump Very UNHAPPY.

He wanted it to Go Down the Rabbit Hole... No Can Do.. says the Majority of the SC.

Can't go higher than that.

PS.... Karma can be a *****... this is for Acting out at Pres Carter's Memorial.. him and his Lump.

He'll Always have that Asterisk *

ProudMNDemocrat

(19,286 posts)
18. That will hurt his feefees.
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 07:28 PM
Jan 9

CONVICTED FELON will forever be attributed to tRump. It's on his record forever.

madinmaryland

(65,242 posts)
20. It's a good thing I bought some shares of Heinz a couple of days ago!
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 07:32 PM
Jan 9

It’s going to be a red mess at Mar-a-Lardass tonight!

DallasNE

(7,627 posts)
46. I Am Not A Lawyer
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 08:28 PM
Jan 9

But my understanding is that Trump can (and will) appeal but the appeal cannot overturn the jury verdict. The appeal can only be based on errors by the Judge - by applying the wrong law, etc. That could result in a new trial being ordered. This is the likely route Trump will take.

aggiesal

(9,611 posts)
23. Shocked! Shocked, I say! ...
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 07:34 PM
Jan 9

Pendejo45 will complain about SCOTUS in 5...4...3...2...
He will claim that SCOTUS is corrupt.

sheshe2

(88,741 posts)
33. He is a....
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 07:59 PM
Jan 9

FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON FELON

ancianita

(39,104 posts)
28. But get this. Though he's said otherwise, Judge Merchan still might NOT grant unconditional discharge.
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 07:51 PM
Jan 9
While Merchan has suggested he’s likely to grant an unconditional discharge, his final ruling on Trump’s sentence could be different. If the judge does not grant an unconditional discharge, Trump could still be fined up to $170,000 even if he’s not given prison time, based on a $5,000 fine per charge. The judge could also impose other penalties like probation, though that’s unlikely, given the logistical issues that could present given Trump’s presidency.

WHAT IS AN UNCONDITIONAL DISCHARGE?


An unconditional discharge, as Trump is likely to get, can be imposed under New York state law when the “court is of the opinion that no proper purpose would be served by imposing any condition upon the defendant's release.” When a defendant is given an unconditional discharge, the court will have to give its reason for doing so, and the defendant is released “without imprisonment, fine or probation supervision,” according to New York law...

WHAT CAN’T TRUMP DO AS A CONVICTED FELON?

Convicted felons face a number of restrictions, though many of them are unlikely to apply to Trump, like holding state public office. Trump will not be able to serve on a jury or own a firearm, and most notably, many countries have travel restrictions that bar convicted felons from entering, which means that as president he may have to get special permission for some travels. That wouldn’t be a first, as CBS News notes President George W. Bush had to get a waiver to travel to Canada as president because he previously pleaded guilty to drunk driving. More than a dozen countries have such restrictions in place, including Australia, Canada, China, Japan and the United Kingdom.


https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2025/01/09/what-to-expect-from-trumps-hush-money-sentencing-tomorrow-as-supreme-court-refuses-to-stop-it/

Countries restricting him will likely restrict sharing their Five Eyes intelligence with him.

ancianita

(39,104 posts)
40. Maybe it was vaguely mentioned? Shows how corporate media have ignored such negatives about their guys for a long time.
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 08:11 PM
Jan 9

Pretty sure we all knew about his DUI, though, just not the Canada thing. A few thoughts...

The Felon Prez will never live this sentencing down. It will also taint his rethug loyalists.

We also will likely see corp media double down on sane washing the Felon President's second term.
As for him, he won't allow any but Fox in the WH Press Room anyway -- if he even has a press secretary -- no one will get to report without his pre-approval.

82. Imagine if a different (Democrat) First Lady had run over someone and killed them.
Fri Jan 10, 2025, 02:20 PM
Jan 10

FOX would start every story about them with that fact.

ancianita

(39,104 posts)
84. Let's imagine ourselves making more positive demands of our congress people and stop staring at the FOX trainwreck.
Fri Jan 10, 2025, 02:30 PM
Jan 10

Links to House and Senate reps' call lines. Many of us make calls. They answer, take notes, pass them on to your congress person

Write down exactly the House/Senate bill you're calling about, and exactly the position you want them to take. Give facts and sources. They listen. Each call will take 10 minutes of your day.

https://directory.house.gov/#!/

https://www.senate.gov/senators/senators-contact.htm

republianmushroom

(18,482 posts)
32. He is and always will be a "convicted felon".
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 07:59 PM
Jan 9

You can put lip stick on a pig but it still is a pig and trump will forever be a felon.

LAS14

(14,881 posts)
38. It's still a scary slim majority. Do the dissenting four explain themselves anywhere?
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 08:04 PM
Jan 9

I've figured Alito and Thomas are totally evil. But I'd hoped Kavanaugh on Gorsuch might, on occasion, vote againt totally invalid claims. I guess not.

BComplex

(9,205 posts)
58. They lied under oath to get confirmed.I don't think they care about explaining themselves.
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 10:07 PM
Jan 9

They should have been impeached.

ShazzieB

(19,104 posts)
42. WOW!!!!!!!!!!
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 08:16 PM
Jan 9

"Justice Thomas, Justice Alito, Justice Gorsuch, and Justice Kavanaugh would grant the application.."

It just figures those 4 would have given him what he wanted, doesn't it? SO GLAD Barrett and Roberts decided not to go along with it!

reACTIONary

(6,227 posts)
43. Convicted forever? No...
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 08:20 PM
Jan 9

... This was a denial of a stay for sentencing, not a final appeal to the Supreme Court. After sentencing, he can appeal through the state Court system. Convicted felon? Yes. Forever? That is still not a done deal.

Disaffected

(5,237 posts)
47. Altogether now:
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 08:30 PM
Jan 9

"For he's a jolly good felon,
For he's a jolly good felon,
For he's a jolly good felon,
That nobody can deny, "
etc.

LetMyPeopleVote

(156,601 posts)
49. Donald Trump can be sentenced Friday in hush money case, Supreme Court says in 5-4 ruling
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 08:35 PM
Jan 9

I am happy that trump is not above the law. The briefs filed by trump's counsel were really sad and ridiculous. Basically it was the position of trump and his attorneys that trump was totally above the law



https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/09/politics/supreme-court-donald-trump-sentencing

President-elect Donald Trump can be sentenced Friday in his New York hush money case, the Supreme Court said in a 5-4 ruling.

The high court on Thursday rejected Trump’s emergency request to delay the proceeding, setting the stage for him to be sentenced just days before he is inaugurated on January 20 for a second term.

Four conservative justices – Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito, Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh – said they would have granted Trump’s request. Chief Justice John Roberts and Justice Amy Coney Barrett joined the court’s three liberals to side against Trump.

Judge Juan Merchan, the New York judge who oversaw Trump’s trial, had ordered sentencing in the case for Friday morning but has signaled that Trump will face neither penalties nor prison time.

The sentencing hearing is scheduled for Friday at 9:30 a.m.

In a brief, one-paragraph statement, the court said that some of Trump’s concerns could be handled “in the ordinary course on appeal.” The court also reasoned that the burden sentencing would impose on Trump’s responsibilities is “relatively insubstantial” in light of the trial court’s stated intent to impose no penalty.

The fact that trump was so desperate to avoid being sentence makes me happy about this ruling

LetMyPeopleVote

(156,601 posts)
50. There will be a recording of the sentencing hearing that will be released
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 08:48 PM
Jan 9

This makes me smile



Noteable: Justice Merchan grants *audio recording* of Trump's sentencing tomorrow to be released after the proceeding.

Reporters, myself included, are wondering whether this telegraphs that Justice Merchan has some words for Donald Trump that he wants the world to hear...

Iggo

(48,662 posts)
65. He doesn't.
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 10:49 PM
Jan 9

The thinking is that Merchan set it up that way so tfg couldn’t show harm.

Takket

(22,719 posts)
64. i think he just won't show up.
Thu Jan 9, 2025, 10:48 PM
Jan 9

he'll be sentenced in absencia and at some point during his presidency the appeal to SCOTUS of the conviction, based on the "official acts being immune" ruling will lead to the whole thing being thrown out by SCOTUS. Either ACB or Roberts, or both, will switch sides for that ruling.

orangecrush

(22,322 posts)
73. They said no because he wasn't going to get anything
Fri Jan 10, 2025, 10:41 AM
Jan 10

He wiped his ass with 34 felonies.

This is why you see so many rushing to kiss his ass.

America is over.

gab13by13

(25,725 posts)
77. I hate to rain on the parade
Fri Jan 10, 2025, 12:03 PM
Jan 10

but Trump will surely appeal his conviction to the Supreme Court and seeing as Hope Hicks testified at the trial and she worked in the Oval office, it gives the SC and excuse to overturn the conviction.

Amy won't buck Trump a 2nd time.

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