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(90,481 posts)
Fri Jan 10, 2025, 05:14 PM Jan 10

Our courts have proven themselves an inadequate defense of democracy

...and the rule of law.

In the wake of the Supreme Court decision granting a combination of “absolute” and “presumptive” immunities that apply to all so-called “official” presidential acts, much of the focus has been on the Justice Dept.'s backpedaling - first from the initial indicting of Trump for directing the DOJ to commit crimes, and then from the indictments themselves after he was reelected.

But we've mostly ignored the wave of capitulation and outright obstruction of prosecuting Trump from judges and justices more engaged with finding loopholes in the prosecution than his defense team.

The capitulation seems almost complete as you listen to Judge Merchan adopt the perverse illogic of the Supreme Court dons in his decision to protect Trump from punishment like a mafia lieutenant afraid of getting bumped off for disobeying his boss' orders.

But the real disgrace was the way he blamed his own recalcitrance to punish Trump on the people who voted, as if the verdict wasn't dealt out by a jury of his peers, but is really a political decision up for popular vote in an election.

"The protections afforded the office of the president are not a mitigating factor," Merchan told Trump from the bench. " Ordinary citizens do not receive those legal protections. It is the office of the president that bestows those far-reaching protections to the office-holder. And it was a citizenry of this nation that recently decided that you should once again receive the benefits of those protections which include, among other things, the supremacy clause and presidential immunity."

The absolute cynicism in that disingenuous claim that it was the voter who tied his hands is compounded by his OWN decision to delay sentencing until after the election, knowing full well the consequence would be this faint of throwing up his hands like he's helpless to impose punishment.

We all watched as Trump displayed utter disregard for the court, in proceedings and when he left the courtroom; threatening the judge and his family, and showing zero remorse for the 34 felony counts he was found guilty of committing. But, still this judge wished the man who subverted an election and his courtroom, 'godspeed,' whatever that corruption of the term means in his weak and unconcerned mind.

Stating the obvious because, it's apparently not so obvious to many, prosecutions of Donald Trump have been routinely delayed by myriad, successive courts packed with republican and Trump-nominated judges and justices.

It made no difference to this judge that Trump was convicted by a jury in May 2024, or that he initially had set sentencing for July 11, more than enough time before we voted. Merchan dithered with ridiculous appeals and was so entranced with self serving whispering in Supreme Court rulings threatening to find immunity in the slightest of 'official acts' that he froze in place.

Like the multi-felony federal indictments that dropped in August 2023, this case should have been over and done before the election, but were deliberately delayed by judges and justices who have exclusive control over the scheduling of hearings, like we watched Judge Cannon manipulate like a Trump defense attorney as she worked toward a certain move to dismiss the charges altogether before a hearing.

So this isn't actually a case of just an institutional failure of the courts; it's a tyranny of justice orchestrated, albeit independently, in support of one party's political leader. All of them knew when the election would be held, and Trump compliant (mostly appeals) judges and justices advantaged themselves of that deadline to delay accountability for Trump until we voted with overtly political decisions and rulings.

We know that when interested and concerned, courts can act with speed and decisiveness; mostly against average citizens without the protections Donald Trump was afforded. That makes this not only a tyranny of justice, but a travesty, as well.

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Our courts have proven themselves an inadequate defense of democracy (Original Post) bigtree Jan 10 OP
Yes, our courts have failed the rule of law totally! Ohioboy Jan 10 #1
In a voice vote, the judiciary has self-muzzled in the interests of public tranquility bucolic_frolic Jan 10 #2
It is absolutely disgusting what that orange anus has gotten away with. SamKnause Jan 10 #3
Well we will see the many injustices bdamomma Jan 10 #19
Merchan's ruling even belies the facts dickthegrouch Jan 10 #4
Trump is now a convicted felon. On 34 counts. emulatorloo Jan 10 #6
This language is specifically what enraged me dickthegrouch Jan 10 #8
We all know he wasn't an office holder. Blame the SCOTUS and the voters who re-elected him. emulatorloo Jan 10 #13
The Roberts Court deserves the blame for this emulatorloo Jan 10 #5
"Inadequate defense"... The Unmitigated Gall Jan 10 #7
Well heck... moondust Jan 10 #9
We are toast. After eulogizing President Carter in a touching tribute, today was the preview of Teflon Don's ascent. Evolve Dammit Jan 10 #10
In other countries we have seen bdamomma Jan 10 #21
THIS! Jit423 Jan 10 #11
Good summary, unfortunately. TheRickles Jan 10 #12
that's putting it rather mildly msfiddlestix Jan 10 #14
Tremendously well put. nt moniss Jan 10 #15
Put a fork in this shithole orangecrush Jan 10 #16
And lest we forget, this isn't B.See Jan 10 #17
Maybe some aspects of a Marxist analysis are valid. SidneyR Jan 10 #18
In general i feel a lot of the institutions and the people who run them, let us down Mr. Sparkle Jan 10 #20

SamKnause

(13,966 posts)
3. It is absolutely disgusting what that orange anus has gotten away with.
Fri Jan 10, 2025, 05:33 PM
Jan 10

The U.S. is an embarrassment.

Our justice system has failed.

Our supreme court is corrupt.

Our politicians are corrupt.

Our media is useless.

The democratic party doesn't know how to fight or refuses to fight.

Corporations are above the law.

The supreme court is blame.

Corporations are not people.

Money is not speech.

We have a government that protects the wealthy and punishes the working class and poor.

bdamomma

(67,137 posts)
19. Well we will see the many injustices
Fri Jan 10, 2025, 08:14 PM
Jan 10

Being put upon us. Hmm....it may fuel us to take whatever action we can..


dickthegrouch

(3,712 posts)
4. Merchan's ruling even belies the facts
Fri Jan 10, 2025, 05:47 PM
Jan 10

That he was an ordinary citizen when he committed the felonies, and is still an ordinary citizen today, and according to the principle of “by the people, of the people, and for the people “ will still be an ordinary citizen before, during and after his illegitimate office holding.
In as much as some sentences are increased on appeal, I hope does, and gets hammered along these lines as the illegitimacy of the rulings catches up to him.

emulatorloo

(45,709 posts)
6. Trump is now a convicted felon. On 34 counts.
Fri Jan 10, 2025, 05:55 PM
Jan 10

The first US President who is a convicted felon.

This is what Judge Merchan said today:

"Ordinary citizens do not receive those legal protections. It is the office of the president that bestows those to the office holder. It is the citizenry of this nation that recently decided that you should once again receive the benefits of those protections."


Judge Merchant get’s it, he’s not the villain.

Look to the Roberts court, those are the villains, as well as the ill informed voters who rewarded this convicted felon by putting him in the White House again.

dickthegrouch

(3,712 posts)
8. This language is specifically what enraged me
Fri Jan 10, 2025, 06:03 PM
Jan 10
It is the office of the president that bestows those far-reaching protections to the office-holder.

He wasn’t an office holder at the time of committing the offenses, and he isn’t one today.
I think it would have been fitting to swear in Vance (even as he’s widely seen to be worse than TSF) and wait for mango menace to fulfill ANY meaningful sentence before being sworn in.
All that could have been accomplished in July.

emulatorloo

(45,709 posts)
13. We all know he wasn't an office holder. Blame the SCOTUS and the voters who re-elected him.
Fri Jan 10, 2025, 06:46 PM
Jan 10

The New York judge has a lot of integrity.

emulatorloo

(45,709 posts)
5. The Roberts Court deserves the blame for this
Fri Jan 10, 2025, 05:53 PM
Jan 10

By proclaiming the illegal to be legal if Trump does a crime.

The Unmitigated Gall

(4,695 posts)
7. "Inadequate defense"...
Fri Jan 10, 2025, 05:59 PM
Jan 10

Gives the impression they actually tried. But it's a start.
I prefer "betrayal".

moondust

(20,617 posts)
9. Well heck...
Fri Jan 10, 2025, 06:06 PM
Jan 10

a prosecutor or judge who wants to "climb the ladder" (and stay out of 'trouble') can get a lot more prosecutions on the record by going after the poor slobs, right? Them fat cats can just drag things out and eat up your budget that could have been spent on getting a lot more convictions on the record, right?

(TBH: I don't know nuthin' about the legal profession.)

Evolve Dammit

(19,515 posts)
10. We are toast. After eulogizing President Carter in a touching tribute, today was the preview of Teflon Don's ascent.
Fri Jan 10, 2025, 06:34 PM
Jan 10

He will be unchecked and a fucking vindictive ruler. Might as well crown his ass. He is a king. "Guardrails" are gone in ten days.

bdamomma

(67,137 posts)
21. In other countries we have seen
Fri Jan 10, 2025, 08:23 PM
Jan 10

Tyrants take power, but the people rise up and people regain power. This may be our turn to have the same fate. Never surrender, never give up hope. Our relatives did not surrender during WW2.

B.See

(4,160 posts)
17. And lest we forget, this isn't
Fri Jan 10, 2025, 07:31 PM
Jan 10

the ONLY crime the felon has committed or at least, stands accused of, including

rape of a minor
a fraudulent 'university'
fraudulent use of a charity
collusion with a foreign adversary
using the office for personal profit
tax evasion and fraud
criminal negligence/obstruction in Covid response
absconding with classified documents
a fake electors scheme, and
inciting a riot/insurrection in an attempted COUP.

SidneyR

(134 posts)
18. Maybe some aspects of a Marxist analysis are valid.
Fri Jan 10, 2025, 07:55 PM
Jan 10

Like the role of the court system is to provide intellectual rationale for what the ruling class wants. It's another layer of defense in the class war on the majority.

Mr. Sparkle

(3,209 posts)
20. In general i feel a lot of the institutions and the people who run them, let us down
Fri Jan 10, 2025, 08:14 PM
Jan 10

Trump could have been stopped at so many turns, yet it seems threats from right wing nutjobs, stopped due process

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