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babylonsister

(171,750 posts)
Fri Jan 10, 2025, 05:17 PM Jan 10

GOP eyes axing popular programs to cut taxes for the rich


GOP eyes axing popular programs to cut taxes for the rich
Friday, January 10, 2025 at 4:01:06p EST
Emily Singer


House Republicans have put out a list of items they want to cut from the federal budget in order to pay for Donald Trump's tax cuts for the rich—all of which would hurt middle-class and low-income Americans.

Among the more than $5 trillion in cuts Republicans are proposing is slashing $151 billion from the Affordable Care Act, better known as Obamacare.

Republicans want to let expire Obamacare subsidies that Democrats passed which help middle-class Americans pay little to nothing for their health insurance. If Republicans let those subsidies expire at the end of 2025, as they are currently set to do, 4 million people would lose their health insurance, according to a report from the Urban Institute.

Also on the list is a proposal to institute work requirements for Medicaid, which provides health insurance to low-income Americans. Republicans say work requirements would cut $120 billion from the budget.

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What’s more, Republicans are also proposing to slash food stamps by nearly $300 billion by reforming the Thrifty Food Plan, which "estimates the cost of a healthy diet across various price points" in order to determine food stamp benefits.

All of these cuts would make life harder for poverty-stricken or low-income workers, all so that Trump could line the pockets of his billionaire buddies and deport a large chunk of the nation’s workforce.

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GOP eyes axing popular programs to cut taxes for the rich (Original Post) babylonsister Jan 10 OP
The cruelty is the point. greatauntoftriplets Jan 10 #1
Absolutely! SheltieLover Jan 10 #2
Cruelty ALWAYS was the point. B.See Jan 10 #29
Instituting work requirements for Medicaid Diamond_Dog Jan 10 #3
My Mom Rebl2 Jan 10 #6
It's unbelievable isn't it? Mike 03 Jan 10 #12
Medicare, Medical, Snap..................... Lovie777 Jan 10 #4
My hairdressser told me today that one of her inhaler is now $500!!!!! It used to cost $23 a kennedy Jan 10 #7
But big pharma has to pay for those stock buybacks somehow. rubbersole Jan 10 #35
My friend gets hers for much less Demobrat Jan 10 #41
Inhaler price IowaUnionman Jan 10 #42
Shut up...... no, sorry......I was starting to doubt, I really did think, how can a gawd damn inhaler a kennedy Jan 10 #43
social security Evolve Dammit Jan 10 #20
Meanwhile, the face-eating leopards are waiting for their dinner. Ocelot II Jan 10 #5
From ProPublica. It's a few years old, but we can look forward to more of the same. Mike 03 Jan 10 #10
Sometimes its the details that piss me off the most genxlib Jan 10 #16
Eric. rubbersole Jan 10 #37
the pigs at animal farm are a little more equal aren't they rampartd Jan 10 #17
"Ha ha. Suckers and losers. Ha ha." - G.O.P. BoRaGard Jan 10 #8
Some of these will be saved by the Corporations in a very tight Congress JCMach1 Jan 10 #9
All the cuts are bad, but food stamps... Mike 03 Jan 10 #11
you might be shocked at how little some seniors get in food stamps rampartd Jan 10 #18
To quote attorney Joseph Welch William769 Jan 10 #13
Killing the workforce little by little MagickMuffin Jan 10 #14
Being a republican is to Turbineguy Jan 10 #15
How do we get that statement across?? It's perfect, or pretty close to the new talking idea the Dems need.... a kennedy Jan 10 #44
No surprise there. paleotn Jan 10 #19
The cruelty has always been the point. Now it's got express permission. And no checks. Evolve Dammit Jan 10 #21
of course, this is sad and cruel and everything everybody is writing state of stupid Jan 10 #22
Seems they're 'only' proposals at this point, but cutting anything babylonsister Jan 10 #27
Very true state of stupid Jan 10 #36
Rethuglicans are filled with so much anger and hate they probably don't even like themselves. NoMoreRepugs Jan 10 #23
Explains the incels. rubbersole Jan 10 #38
How many people that are affected by these proposed Buddyzbuddy Jan 10 #24
And if you think that Medicare Part A and B are not in this mix...................... turbinetree Jan 10 #25
Filthy &@$§∆√ swine!!! Just Jerome Jan 10 #26
Oh well angrychair Jan 10 #28
They will happily shred the safety net just to punish people of color Blue_Tires Jan 10 #32
Nursing Homes get the majority of money from Medicaid Horse with no Name Jan 10 #30
Hey, this is what working class white folks overwhelmingly voted for Blue_Tires Jan 10 #31
But no taxes on tips, right? Right? Right? Johonny Jan 10 #33
Anyone using these programs orangecrush Jan 10 #34
How would work requirements save a dime? Callie1979 Jan 10 #39
notice no work requirements for food stamps? Hamlette Jan 10 #40
Guess people are going to get a hard lesson in why your vote counts. Vinca Jan 10 #45
And these a holes says they are such good Christian's NOT! kimbutgar Jan 10 #46
This is why i want JustAnotherGen Jan 10 #47

Diamond_Dog

(35,583 posts)
3. Instituting work requirements for Medicaid
Fri Jan 10, 2025, 05:23 PM
Jan 10

Has been proven time and time again to be more expensive to police Medicaid recipients who work than it is just giving Medicaid to everyone who qualifies. Also, the majority of of Medicaid recipients are already working.

But, they never learn and insist on keeping up with this charade to appease the resentful crowd that insists that someone is getting something for nothing.

Rebl2

(15,252 posts)
6. My Mom
Fri Jan 10, 2025, 05:30 PM
Jan 10

and Dad went on Medicaid in their 90’s. How the hell would they have been able to work, especially since they both had dementia. So glad they don’t have to live through this damn administration once again.

Mike 03

(17,814 posts)
12. It's unbelievable isn't it?
Fri Jan 10, 2025, 05:47 PM
Jan 10

This reminds me of that really unfortunate episode in the UK under PM Cameron, where they were forcing people with terminal cancer to board buses and come in to be screened to see if they could work or not.

Lovie777

(15,795 posts)
4. Medicare, Medical, Snap.....................
Fri Jan 10, 2025, 05:25 PM
Jan 10

overturn $35 cap on insulin, et al.

Daycare, after school program, school lunches, Department of Education, et al.

And the list goes on.

a kennedy

(32,582 posts)
7. My hairdressser told me today that one of her inhaler is now $500!!!!! It used to cost $23
Fri Jan 10, 2025, 05:35 PM
Jan 10

Last edited Fri Jan 10, 2025, 07:29 PM - Edit history (1)

She has a Dr appointment this week and is gonna ask if there’s possibly a generic inhaler she could use. I just couldn’t believe it. $500. Wow.

IowaUnionman

(6 posts)
42. Inhaler price
Fri Jan 10, 2025, 08:04 PM
Jan 10

$600. For Symbicort . Buy from an online India pharmacy $17. It may be illegal but we gotta do what we have to.

a kennedy

(32,582 posts)
43. Shut up...... no, sorry......I was starting to doubt, I really did think, how can a gawd damn inhaler
Fri Jan 10, 2025, 08:34 PM
Jan 10

cost $500.00!!!!! So thank you……. Now how many inhalers voted for tRump??? Sorry…..have there been surveys done with all physically, and mentally handicapped voters???

Mike 03

(17,814 posts)
10. From ProPublica. It's a few years old, but we can look forward to more of the same.
Fri Jan 10, 2025, 05:43 PM
Jan 10
How Taxpayers Covered a $1,000 Liquor Bill for Trump Staffers (and More) at Trump’s Club

A top-shelf, closed-door drinking session. $546-a-night hotel rooms. A special government credit card for Mar-a-Lago. Taxpayers foot the costs — and the president profits.

At some point later that evening, a group repaired to Mar-a-Lago’s Library Bar, a wood-paneled study with a portrait of Trump in tennis whites (titled “The Visionary”) hanging nearby. The group asked the bartender to leave the room so it “could speak confidentially,” according to an email written by Mar-a-Lago’s catering director, Brooke Watson.

The Secret Service guarded the door, according to the email. The bartender wasn’t allowed to return. And members of the group began pouring themselves drinks. No one paid.

Six days later, on April 13, Mar-a-Lago created a bill for those drinks, tallying $838 worth of alcohol plus a 20% service charge. It covered 54 drinks (making for an average price of $18.62 each) of premium liquor: Chopin vodka, Patron and Don Julio Blanco tequilas and Woodford Reserve bourbon. Watson’s email did not specify how many people consumed the alcohol or who the participants were.


https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-inc-podcast-taxpayers-covered-liquor-bill-for-trump-staffers-and-more-mar-a-lago

Something tells me almost every night will be like this, either at the WH or M-A-L.


genxlib

(5,738 posts)
16. Sometimes its the details that piss me off the most
Fri Jan 10, 2025, 05:55 PM
Jan 10

So they charged a 20% service fee even though the bartender was summarily dismissed.

I wonder who got that money??

JCMach1

(28,202 posts)
9. Some of these will be saved by the Corporations in a very tight Congress
Fri Jan 10, 2025, 05:39 PM
Jan 10

Walmart, big grocery, and Big Ag will fight to keep SNAP intact.

Meanwhile big insurance will fight to keep ACA subsidies that largely help red states anyway.

You only have to peel away support of just a small handful of Congress creatures to stop anything.

Mike 03

(17,814 posts)
11. All the cuts are bad, but food stamps...
Fri Jan 10, 2025, 05:45 PM
Jan 10

It's so disgusting. It's incomprehensible cruelty.

These people spend more money on one meal than many people spend for food for an entire week.

rampartd

(1,255 posts)
18. you might be shocked at how little some seniors get in food stamps
Fri Jan 10, 2025, 06:34 PM
Jan 10

less than 60 a month in some cases pm ny block

MagickMuffin

(17,280 posts)
14. Killing the workforce little by little
Fri Jan 10, 2025, 05:51 PM
Jan 10


I suppose the robots will be more than willing to do the work we used to do.


a kennedy

(32,582 posts)
44. How do we get that statement across?? It's perfect, or pretty close to the new talking idea the Dems need....
Fri Jan 10, 2025, 08:39 PM
Jan 10

or what the hell, let’s just change the name democrat to something else??? Repubs did it way back…….chnge their name I mean. We could ya know…..democrat…ugh actually. Used to boil when I heard “democrat”.

state of stupid

(111 posts)
22. of course, this is sad and cruel and everything everybody is writing
Fri Jan 10, 2025, 06:43 PM
Jan 10

but it depends on what budget they are talking about. If they are talking about what I call
the 1040 budget then it is just a matter of getting it done. That is the discretionary budget.
Snap and TANF are under the agriculture budget. Part of Medicaid is paid for under the 1040
budget https://hospitalmedicaldirector.com/who-really-pays-for-medicaid/
Obamacare is a heath law under the 1040 budget. Social security and Medicare are separate
budgets that are harder to get to because each is an island to itself.

babylonsister

(171,750 posts)
27. Seems they're 'only' proposals at this point, but cutting anything
Fri Jan 10, 2025, 07:06 PM
Jan 10

from people living paycheck to paycheck or worse, sometimes much worse, to aid a bunch of people who absolutely don't need it, that's abhorrent.

state of stupid

(111 posts)
36. Very true
Fri Jan 10, 2025, 07:28 PM
Jan 10

Most people I deal with do not understand that payroll tax is not the same as income tax.
They cannot even get the concept that there are three separate budgets. That you cannot
fix one by doing something with the other two. The worst thing ever done was unifying the
federal budget where the surplus of Social Security and Medicare made the deficit in what
I call the 1040 budget look better. Now that Social Security and Medicare are in trouble it just
amplifies the problem. All cutting Social Security and Medicare does is give them more money
to fund things like tax breaks for the rich and tax breaks for subsidies for corporations. Sadly
to borrow A Def Leppard lyric "what mama don't know, mama don't see".

Buddyzbuddy

(209 posts)
24. How many people that are affected by these proposed
Fri Jan 10, 2025, 07:02 PM
Jan 10

cuts, didn't vote? Or worse yet, voted for diaper Don? You sure showed us. America is about to go through some sh.t.

turbinetree

(25,490 posts)
25. And if you think that Medicare Part A and B are not in this mix......................
Fri Jan 10, 2025, 07:04 PM
Jan 10
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219893135





United States Capitol switchboard at (202) 224-3121

angrychair

(10,015 posts)
28. Oh well
Fri Jan 10, 2025, 07:07 PM
Jan 10

Literally nothing I can do to stop it. I have to assume this is why he got elected. It's why people voted for him. To hurt themselves and/or their family. I can only assume they enjoy suffering.
Given I can't stop it. I cannot rage all the time. It is what it is. We will have to just take it has it happens.

Horse with no Name

(34,103 posts)
30. Nursing Homes get the majority of money from Medicaid
Fri Jan 10, 2025, 07:11 PM
Jan 10

Wonder how grandma and grandpa are going to be able to meet the work requirements?

 

Blue_Tires

(57,596 posts)
31. Hey, this is what working class white folks overwhelmingly voted for
Fri Jan 10, 2025, 07:22 PM
Jan 10

Shouldn't they be celebrating...?

Four years from now, I don't want to hear any bullshit bitching and moaning from the so-called working class about how they've been forgotten and neglected by Washington and there's never any policies to help them...

orangecrush

(22,410 posts)
34. Anyone using these programs
Fri Jan 10, 2025, 07:25 PM
Jan 10

Which we can safely assume includes a large chunk of his "base" are going to have a big find out.

Callie1979

(462 posts)
39. How would work requirements save a dime?
Fri Jan 10, 2025, 07:34 PM
Jan 10

If it would say you had to work to get it, how does that save any money?

Hamlette

(15,549 posts)
40. notice no work requirements for food stamps?
Fri Jan 10, 2025, 07:45 PM
Jan 10

because we already have work requirements for food stamps. . . for single healthy adults. Know how it works? Horribly. Know why? Single people on food stamps are sometimes not the best workers and the government can't find jobs for them. So, we staff up our state agencies trying to find them work. Save money? Hardly.

JustAnotherGen

(34,067 posts)
47. This is why i want
Fri Jan 10, 2025, 10:48 PM
Jan 10

My Senators to vote No on everything.

They say - We won't do a total on abortion and you only have to take a 50% cut to ACA subsidies.

Answer from Booker and Kim?

No or Present.

Won work for every state but they will be greatly rewarded at election time.

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