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More people live inside this circle than outside of it (Original Post) Recursion May 2013 OP
Much of it due to the sediment rich waters flowing from Himalayan glaciers Junkdrawer May 2013 #1
For most of civilization that was the center of the world. Warren Stupidity May 2013 #2
why does domination demwing May 2013 #4
It doesn't. Warren Stupidity May 2013 #5
Sorry, let me rephrase... demwing May 2013 #6
Might usually trumps "right" SoCalDem May 2013 #11
"the seat of power" is wherever the dominant culture is. Warren Stupidity May 2013 #13
I don't think 'naturally' is the right word to use. randome May 2013 #9
Well, when people in the US and Europe start learning geek tragedy May 2013 #12
What??? Skidmore May 2013 #8
China and India from around whenever BCE to around 17xx CE. Warren Stupidity May 2013 #10
That circle also includes a lot Cirque du So-What May 2013 #3
World map by population muriel_volestrangler May 2013 #7
And most of the edible rats. Safetykitten May 2013 #14

Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
1. Much of it due to the sediment rich waters flowing from Himalayan glaciers
Tue May 7, 2013, 07:00 AM
May 2013

And when the glaciers are all melted...

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
2. For most of civilization that was the center of the world.
Tue May 7, 2013, 07:06 AM
May 2013

The 300 year anomaly of western domination is coming to a close and the center is going back to where it belongs.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
5. It doesn't.
Tue May 7, 2013, 07:19 AM
May 2013

Nor did I say it did. I said the 300 year domination of the world by the west was coming to an end, and that the (geopolitical and economic) center of world civilization is reverting back to where it naturally belongs, which is in that circle where most of the people of the world live.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
6. Sorry, let me rephrase...
Tue May 7, 2013, 07:34 AM
May 2013

Shouldn't the seat of power of a civilization rest in the center of its philosophical heart, not its most populated geographic area?

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
11. Might usually trumps "right"
Tue May 7, 2013, 11:33 AM
May 2013

it will be chaotic until enough young males are killed in battle, and then we start over..

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
13. "the seat of power" is wherever the dominant culture is.
Tue May 7, 2013, 11:35 AM
May 2013

All I'm saying is that europe and america, who have dominated the world economically, culturally and militarily for the last 300 years, are not going to continue to do that. The economic power is clearly centering in China and east asia, and our efforts to continue to dominate via military hegemony are doomed to failure.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
9. I don't think 'naturally' is the right word to use.
Tue May 7, 2013, 07:59 AM
May 2013

The center of power is wherever human beings make it.

'First come, first serve' does not apply.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
12. Well, when people in the US and Europe start learning
Tue May 7, 2013, 11:34 AM
May 2013

Hindustani and Mandarin en masse, then I'll believe the center has shifted.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
10. China and India from around whenever BCE to around 17xx CE.
Tue May 7, 2013, 11:30 AM
May 2013

Both India and China were generally more culturally and scientifically and economically advanced for most of human history, and China in particular was more politically advanced and stabile for the entire period up to the mid 1700s. The relatively brief greco-roman era was contemporaneous with a similar level of cultural achievement in both China and India, neither of them bothered to collapse as western culture did from 500 - 1500, both of them were unable to compete with the european ascendancy of the late 17th - 20th centuries.

Cirque du So-What

(25,808 posts)
3. That circle also includes a lot
Tue May 7, 2013, 07:06 AM
May 2013

of territory that is sparsely populated: Gobi desert, Siberia, Himalayan plateau, jungle, etc. Take away those low-density areas and it's even more amazing.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,144 posts)
7. World map by population
Tue May 7, 2013, 07:50 AM
May 2013

(NB: Antarctica is the one area not to scale - it should disappear, since it has 0 permanent population, but they've left it in)

More maps like that here: http://www.worldmapper.org/

Animation of area to population: http://www.worldmapper.org/animations/wm01to02.html
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