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ashling

(25,771 posts)
Fri May 24, 2013, 07:25 PM May 2013

Game Over For Obamacare Saboteurs?

http://editors.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2013/05/california_getting_obamacare_right.php?ref=fpblg

The spoiler version is that out in California, where the state government and advocacy groups are actually interested in doing Obamacare right, things are looking pretty good. They’re standing up their exchanges and it turns out premiums for basic bronze and more comprehensive silver health plans will actually come in lower than anticipated.

This is almost unambiguously good news for Obamacare.

You can tell it’s good news because it’s obviously good news, but also because the brigade of conservative writers who comb the news for every last Obamacare glitch in less cooperative states have been pretty quiet about it.








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Game Over For Obamacare Saboteurs? (Original Post) ashling May 2013 OP
i have a client setting up employee leasing firms galileoreloaded May 2013 #1
Then you have yourself a Control-Z May 2013 #2
That's pretty clearly fraud localroger May 2013 #5
totally legal, sorry! galileoreloaded May 2013 #7
The feds are giving CA 1 billion dollars to set up the exchanges eridani May 2013 #3
It's still not cheap. Here's what I calculated for a single person in their 20's. Kablooie May 2013 #4
$230 a month is cheap... its going to decrease further as time goes along... Historic NY May 2013 #6
 

galileoreloaded

(2,571 posts)
1. i have a client setting up employee leasing firms
Fri May 24, 2013, 07:28 PM
May 2013

with less than whatever it is, 25 employees, and leasing them back to corporations w/ no benefits.

an employer with 100 employees writes 4 checks a week to 4 firms.

this battle is far from over.

localroger

(3,605 posts)
5. That's pretty clearly fraud
Fri May 24, 2013, 09:38 PM
May 2013

It's not so much the ACA as the IRS that will bury them for that little stunt.

eridani

(51,907 posts)
3. The feds are giving CA 1 billion dollars to set up the exchanges
Fri May 24, 2013, 08:13 PM
May 2013

And not a single dime of that will be spent on actual health care. When the federal subsidies end, the exchanges will have to be self-supporting, which will require a large surcharge on all insurance plans.

Kablooie

(18,571 posts)
4. It's still not cheap. Here's what I calculated for a single person in their 20's.
Fri May 24, 2013, 09:06 PM
May 2013

I did a rough calculation to see what my daughter might pay.
I used an income of $30,000 for the calculation but her income's unstable so I don't know if that's accurate.
Here's what I came up with so far.

It will be around $230 a month.
That includes one free checkup a year, and a $45-$65 copay for other visits depending on what it's for.
There's also a $2000 deductible for Hospital or Emergency care and $250 copay afterwards.
The maximum out of pocket is $6400 for the worst case.

So it's not cheap but at least there isn't some huge deductible for basic services before insurance kicks in and the maximum isn't too bad, especially if you need a heart transplant or something.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
6. $230 a month is cheap... its going to decrease further as time goes along...
Fri May 24, 2013, 09:41 PM
May 2013

people are going to find they been lied to and thats not going to help the GOOP'ers.

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