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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHawaii Mormons concede gay marriage debate by pushing for religious exemptions.
Whether Mormons favor or oppose the potential change, the letter said, they should push for a strong exemption for people and organizations of faith that would protect religious groups from being required to support or perform same-sex marriages or from having to host same-sex marriages or celebrations in their facilities; and protect individuals and small businesses from being required to assist in promoting or celebrating same-sex marriages.
Owen Matsunaga, one of the stake presidents over a number of Mormon congregations and the churchs spokesman in Hawaii, said LDS leaders in Salt Lake City are certainly aware of the issues in Hawaii but expect local leaders and members to make decisions specific to local circumstances.
Our position in Hawaii, Matsunaga wrote in an email, is entirely consistent with the churchs doctrine and in harmony with this pattern.....
The letters language seems to signal a kind of resignation that theres a shift in society that we cant stop, Monson said, but we can ask for exceptions.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/20/hawaii-mormons-gay-marriage_n_3956599.html?utm_hp_ref=religion
msongs
(67,193 posts)kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)by marrying gays against their wishes.
Morans.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)for refusing to photograph a same-sex wedding.
dsc
(52,129 posts)It has everything to do with anti discrimination. The law in Oregon clearly states, that if you offer a public accommodation, then you must offer it to the public including gays and lesbians.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)But I also know conservative reactions to reality aren't always sensible.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)Besides, while I'm a boring heterosexual, I think if I were gay and wanted to get married, I would not want to get married in a denomination that didn't respect me.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Or, rather, a photographer has been sued and a bakery was being investigated but went out of business first. Both in Oregon IIRC.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)want a baker who didn't approve of my life to bake me a wedding cake, nor a photographer the same.
And honestly, I think bakers and photographers should be free to refuse to take a job they don't want. That's just me. I like to think if I were gay and getting married, I want the most gay-friendly services possible.
politicat
(9,808 posts)It wasn't that they declined, it was the discriminatory way they did so. They could have been polite -- "sorry, already booked that weekend," -- and the worst they would have suffered was losing a job. "I won't work for $NDiscriminatedGroup," that's the problem.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)I heard about the bakery, but not the photographer. 2014 is shaping up to be a major fight to get the ballot measure passed in Oregon. In order to get to passed it will need huge majorities in 8 or 9 counties including the Portland and Willamette valley areas to offset the rest of the state. It is a given pretty much all of Southern and Eastern Oregon will be strong no votes.
I wonder if there are cases like that in other states.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)I personally think the photographer case was heavy handed, but she was in clear violation of plain law.
BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)...life and have a series of intense "Visions"
Yeah....Visions my ass....
The Mormon Religion reminds me of an ad.
"Yes ...this is genuine ...I repeat, GENUINE fake leather.... accept no substitutes.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)groups always engage in.
There are two potential aspects to marriage; often performed concurrently but different: The legal, and (for people who go that route) the religious.
Many religious denominations have been performing gay weddings for a while- whether or not the marriages are legal as per the state. Similarly, no denomination is forced to "marry" anyone they don't want.
It's completely separate from the civic, legal institution of marriage.