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but I think the most difficult entity Obama had to contend with was The MIC...
No one absolutely no one could fundamentally change the Military Industrial Complex just by Becoming Pres.
Im sure we will be seeing some changes over the next 3 years to this entity as well..
LondonReign2
(5,213 posts)This is what we've been asking for since he took office
Richardo
(38,391 posts)Be ashamed.
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)Why? because I am proud of our President? .....that he was up against something which has been severely hurting this country for decades..? Many here have been hounding Obama for over two years because of drone attacks, indefinite detention etc.. Im just saying.. Look at the hell at what he was up against... He has dealt this entity in a smart intelligent manner...I dont think he could have done it any other way...
bigtree
(85,918 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)he caved on the Bush tax cut extension and in 2011- to mention 2.
Furthermore, his 2014 budget contains the chained cpi and he's a big proponent of the TPP.
I support him when I believe he's doing the right thing for the country and I support him against tea party style attacks.
joshcryer
(62,265 posts)It will never pass. Never.
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)Even though I hated this extension. I knew he was doing it for a reason.. Independents were understanding that President Obama was not as the right wing lied about, taking us down the road to Socialism...
He supports center right issues at times, until "we hold his feet to the fire"... This was the fire he was waiting for..
sibelian
(7,804 posts)Which is what he should have been doing from the beginning.
Outwitting the Teabaggers proved to be a relatively simple affair.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)"The only thing Obama had to cave to during his 5 years as POTUS was the MIC"
Pretty revisionist there.
BluegrassStateBlues
(881 posts)If they can continue doing what they do without it affecting social programs, I have no issue with them.
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)Billions of dollars spent in a circle enhancing the wealth of only the wealthiest ?
DonCoquixote
(13,615 posts)Even I know he only works under pressure, as Janet yellen can tell you. There is celebration, and schaenfruede, we need the former, not the latter, especially when the latter is not based on much.
WilliamPitt
(58,179 posts)B Calm
(28,762 posts)we were all on the same page.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)Underestimate President Obama at your peril.
Dawgs
(14,755 posts)He did.
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)It doesnt matter that they might not change.. He has perhaps permanently changed the political dynamics of the country..the thing that matters most..
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Richardo
(38,391 posts)Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)Dawgs
(14,755 posts)Bradical79
(4,490 posts)He "outwitted" his doubters by doing exactly what they wanted him to do. If that's what it means to outwit someone, I wish it would happen more often, lol. Seriously though, I think you're completely ignorant as to who most of his doubters are on here, and bought into the outright lie that those of us who expressed criticism of his presidency were Ron/Rand Paul fans or rightwing plants. I think it makes you sound more like someone who is more interested in the success of him as an individual rather than real progress. Hero worship. I support progress, so if President Obama is involved in progressing this country in a positive direction, I support his decision. When he stands in the way of progress, I'm against it.
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)I just support his chosen path to progressive reform..It wasnt easy and I doubted his path frequently...I am amazed at his foresight...I never worship anything or anyone except per haps John Lennon..
seveneyes
(4,631 posts)It's not his job to outwit his supporters, he just needs to outwit his enemies.
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)Plenty of them around here over the past 2..3 years...
Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)for the last four years or so - if that is how one describes "outwitted"
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)Listen... I was pissed as much as anyone at times.. So if it makes everyone feel better at times I was doubting him as well.. I just had a feeling that his path would always lead to a better place for us..
yuiyoshida
(41,763 posts)Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)The steep cuts from the sequester still remain in affect - and the Democrats of today are having to go to the brink to defend an approach to healthcare that not that long ago most Republicans - even self-identified conservative-Republicans supported until Democrats decided to abandon their approach and support the conservative-Republican approach to healthcare. All of this with assurances that finally the House and the Senate will take a serious look at "entitlement reform" and reducing discretionary spending -AKA cutting benefits for the elderly and disabled and the most vulnerable of society.
This "victory" shows just how reactionary both parties have become - with the Democrats being the sensible pro-business conservatives and the Republicans being the wild-eyed extremist who scared the hell out of the financial power houses.