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Wed Oct 16, 2013, 01:27 PM

Obama has outwitted his doubters around here...I had my doubts as well..

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but I think the most difficult entity Obama had to contend with was The MIC...
No one absolutely no one could fundamentally change the Military Industrial Complex just by Becoming Pres.

I’m sure we will be seeing some changes over the next 3 years to this entity as well..

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Reply Obama has outwitted his doubters around here...I had my doubts as well.. (Original post)
busterbrown Oct 2013 OP
LondonReign2 Oct 2013 #1
Richardo Oct 2013 #2
pinboy3niner Oct 2013 #19
busterbrown Oct 2013 #22
bigtree Oct 2013 #3
cali Oct 2013 #4
NCTraveler Oct 2013 #9
joshcryer Oct 2013 #21
busterbrown Oct 2013 #25
sibelian Oct 2013 #5
NCTraveler Oct 2013 #6
BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #7
busterbrown Oct 2013 #20
DonCoquixote Oct 2013 #8
WilliamPitt Oct 2013 #10
B Calm Oct 2013 #11
Nye Bevan Oct 2013 #12
Dawgs Oct 2013 #14
busterbrown Oct 2013 #28
busterbrown Oct 2013 #29
busterbrown Oct 2013 #29
Richardo Oct 2013 #15
Nye Bevan Oct 2013 #16
Dawgs Oct 2013 #13
Bradical79 Oct 2013 #17
busterbrown Oct 2013 #27
seveneyes Oct 2013 #18
busterbrown Oct 2013 #26
Douglas Carpenter Oct 2013 #31
busterbrown Oct 2013 #32
yuiyoshida Oct 2013 #23
Douglas Carpenter Oct 2013 #24
DeSwiss Oct 2013 #33

Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Wed Oct 16, 2013, 01:28 PM

1. Ummm, no

This is what we've been asking for since he took office

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Wed Oct 16, 2013, 01:29 PM

2. what an incredibly divisive post

Be ashamed.

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Response to Richardo (Reply #2)

Wed Oct 16, 2013, 02:09 PM

19. +1

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Response to Richardo (Reply #2)

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 02:49 AM

22. My ass...Ashamed..

Why? because I am proud of our President? .....that he was up against something which has been severely hurting this country for decades..? Many here have been hounding Obama for over two years because of drone attacks, indefinite detention etc.. I’m just saying.. Look at the hell at what he was up against... He has dealt this entity in a smart intelligent manner...I don’t think he could have done it any other way...

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Wed Oct 16, 2013, 01:30 PM

3. he desperately needs his 'doubters' around here

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Wed Oct 16, 2013, 01:31 PM

4. oh please. I support the President on this but

 

he caved on the Bush tax cut extension and in 2011- to mention 2.

Furthermore, his 2014 budget contains the chained cpi and he's a big proponent of the TPP.

I support him when I believe he's doing the right thing for the country and I support him against tea party style attacks.

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Response to cali (Reply #4)

Wed Oct 16, 2013, 01:31 PM

9. +1

 

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Response to cali (Reply #4)

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 02:44 AM

21. Chained CPI comes with poverty exemptions.

It will never pass. Never.

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Response to cali (Reply #4)

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 02:56 AM

25. He caved only to make himself look like the adult in the room willing to bargain..

Even though I hated this extension. I knew he was doing it for a reason.. Independents were understanding that President Obama was not as the right wing lied about, taking us down the road to Socialism...

He supports center right issues at times, until "we hold his feet to the fire"... This was the fire he was waiting for..

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Wed Oct 16, 2013, 01:31 PM

5. I don't see how he "outwitted" anything. He stood his ground...


Which is what he should have been doing from the beginning.

Outwitting the Teabaggers proved to be a relatively simple affair.

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Wed Oct 16, 2013, 01:31 PM

6. Really?

 

"The only thing Obama had to cave to during his 5 years as POTUS was the MIC"

Pretty revisionist there.

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Wed Oct 16, 2013, 01:31 PM

7. My sole gripe with the MIC is when the spending on it hurts the safety net.

 

If they can continue doing what they do without it affecting social programs, I have no issue with them.

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Response to BluegrassStateBlues (Reply #7)

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 02:40 AM

20. You don’t feel the MIC is attached at the hip to the 1%ers..

Billions of dollars spent in a circle enhancing the wealth of only the wealthiest ?

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Wed Oct 16, 2013, 01:31 PM

8. I have been called "obama-bot" but

Even I know he only works under pressure, as Janet yellen can tell you. There is celebration, and schaenfruede, we need the former, not the latter, especially when the latter is not based on much.

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Wed Oct 16, 2013, 01:32 PM

10. STFU and STFD.

 

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Wed Oct 16, 2013, 01:32 PM

11. I haven't seen many doubters! For the most part

 

we were all on the same page.

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Wed Oct 16, 2013, 01:32 PM

12. Cruz and Boehner made the same mistake as Osama bin Laden.

Underestimate President Obama at your peril.

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Response to Nye Bevan (Reply #12)

Wed Oct 16, 2013, 01:36 PM

14. Why wouldn't they? Every other times he's caved to them. They didn't change.

 

He did.

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Response to Dawgs (Reply #14)

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 03:06 AM

28. Except this time... The most important time...

It doesn’t matter that they might not change.. He has perhaps permanently changed the political dynamics of the country..the thing that matters most..

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Response to Nye Bevan (Reply #12)

Wed Oct 16, 2013, 01:36 PM

15. typo, i hope

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Response to Richardo (Reply #15)

Wed Oct 16, 2013, 01:38 PM

16. OMG sorry, that's horrible! Thanks for pointing it out (nt)

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Wed Oct 16, 2013, 01:34 PM

13. Took him 5 years to stand up to the GOP and you're gloating. Pretty pathetic. n/t

 

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Wed Oct 16, 2013, 01:38 PM

17. Well, thanks for that nonsense.

 

He "outwitted" his doubters by doing exactly what they wanted him to do. If that's what it means to outwit someone, I wish it would happen more often, lol. Seriously though, I think you're completely ignorant as to who most of his doubters are on here, and bought into the outright lie that those of us who expressed criticism of his presidency were Ron/Rand Paul fans or rightwing plants. I think it makes you sound more like someone who is more interested in the success of him as an individual rather than real progress. Hero worship. I support progress, so if President Obama is involved in progressing this country in a positive direction, I support his decision. When he stands in the way of progress, I'm against it.

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Response to Bradical79 (Reply #17)

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 03:03 AM

27. No...You are incorrect about how I feel..

I just support his chosen path to progressive reform..It wasn’t easy and I doubted his path frequently...I am amazed at his foresight...I never worship anything or anyone except per haps John Lennon..

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Wed Oct 16, 2013, 02:04 PM

18. Doing the right thing is not "outwitting"

 

It's not his job to outwit his supporters, he just needs to outwit his enemies.

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Response to seveneyes (Reply #18)

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 02:58 AM

26. “Outwitted his doubters”

Plenty of them around here over the past 2..3 years...

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Response to busterbrown (Reply #26)

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 03:12 AM

31. outwitted his doubters in the sense of doing exactly what his doubters have been wanting him to do

for the last four years or so - if that is how one describes "outwitted"

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Response to Douglas Carpenter (Reply #31)

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 03:16 AM

32. This time...

Listen... I was pissed as much as anyone at times.. So if it makes everyone feel better at times I was doubting him as well.. I just had a feeling that his path would always lead to a better place for us..

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 02:50 AM

23. NO DOUBTS HERE...

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 02:53 AM

24. This is a clear defeat for the Tea Party - but it also shows how reactionary things have become

The steep cuts from the sequester still remain in affect - and the Democrats of today are having to go to the brink to defend an approach to healthcare that not that long ago most Republicans - even self-identified conservative-Republicans supported until Democrats decided to abandon their approach and support the conservative-Republican approach to healthcare. All of this with assurances that finally the House and the Senate will take a serious look at "entitlement reform" and reducing discretionary spending -AKA cutting benefits for the elderly and disabled and the most vulnerable of society.

This "victory" shows just how reactionary both parties have become - with the Democrats being the sensible pro-business conservatives and the Republicans being the wild-eyed extremist who scared the hell out of the financial power houses.

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 03:17 AM

33. Now: 0-7 :-| n/t

 

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