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If You Could Go Back In Time... And Could Have The President's Ear... Regarding The ACA... (Original Post) WillyT Oct 2013 OP
No Republican amendments. antiquie Oct 2013 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author lostincalifornia Oct 2013 #2
I would have said fuck the fucking naysayers gopiscrap Oct 2013 #3
whatever you do pscot Oct 2013 #4
LOL !!! - Forgot About Billy T... WillyT Oct 2013 #5
He got the ball rolling pscot Oct 2013 #10
The Republicans will never vote for it Pab Sungenis Oct 2013 #6
I would tell him to scrap it... Ohio Joe Oct 2013 #7
+ 10,000! We told him tha. Progressive Dems tried to tel him that. sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #16
+1 leftstreet Oct 2013 #20
Three words, Mr. President: Brigid Oct 2013 #8
The public option must be included. Change has come Oct 2013 #9
give it up... stillcool Oct 2013 #11
Try harder for single-payer or prevent the family glitch and make subsidies based on income alone MrsKirkley Oct 2013 #12
Forget health care and concentrate on jobs! n/t doc03 Oct 2013 #13
Having the president's ear doesn't mean influencing policy... cynatnite Oct 2013 #14
Bypass the politicians and go straight to the people to take firm control of the Egalitarian Thug Oct 2013 #15
Excellent, pragmantic, practical comment. There is no other way. Our elected officials have falied sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #17
Thank you. there were more than a few of us saying this on Kos back at the end of '08. Egalitarian Thug Oct 2013 #18
So in this scenario I am shoving insurance and bank execs out of the way... Demo_Chris Oct 2013 #19
Less time-wasting consensus building. geek tragedy Oct 2013 #21

Response to WillyT (Original post)

gopiscrap

(23,674 posts)
3. I would have said fuck the fucking naysayers
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 10:16 PM
Oct 2013

go directly to the American people...don't compromise you have the votes, go for single payer!!!

pscot

(21,023 posts)
10. He got the ball rolling
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 10:27 PM
Oct 2013
He came out of the Whitehouse with a mouth full of feathers and a big grin. Baucus and the rest saw where the wind lay and fell in line. Everybody got pieced off. That's Chicago style.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
16. + 10,000! We told him tha. Progressive Dems tried to tel him that.
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 12:02 AM
Oct 2013

But the DLC/Third Way was who he listened to.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
11. give it up...
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 10:28 PM
Oct 2013

If the american people can't get their own representatives to vote on their behalf, nothing you say or do will bring different results. Perfection is far more important than progress...all or nothing. Leave it for some other sucker...you can't win. But....by all means trash everyone, and make some good sound bytes. Like a boxing match or something. You vs. Everyone. It'll make great headlines, which is all that matters.

MrsKirkley

(180 posts)
12. Try harder for single-payer or prevent the family glitch and make subsidies based on income alone
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 10:29 PM
Oct 2013

not access to employer based health insurance. Too many low income employees are paying for health insurance they can't afford to use because the deductibles are too high. The way the law is written, if the employer offers coverage, people are ineligible for subsidies no matter how low their income is. That's just wrong. People at 139% FPL can't afford $5,000 deductibles and $10,000 yearly maximums.

cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
14. Having the president's ear doesn't mean influencing policy...
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 11:23 PM
Oct 2013

It means he'll give it some thought which is fine, but the call is his whether we agree with it or not.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
15. Bypass the politicians and go straight to the people to take firm control of the
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 11:51 PM
Oct 2013

party. If you don't put them down now, you'll never be able to do what the nation needs. Shape your administration on FDR with the attitude of LBJ.

Oh, and no matter what you do the republicans will never stop hating you or ever work with you, so don't waste time and effort trying to change that.

Hey, you asked.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
17. Excellent, pragmantic, practical comment. There is no other way. Our elected officials have falied
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 12:20 AM
Oct 2013

us. Now it is up to us.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
18. Thank you. there were more than a few of us saying this on Kos back at the end of '08.
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 01:06 AM
Oct 2013

He had already started signaling his intent to accommodate even before he took office.

 

Demo_Chris

(6,234 posts)
19. So in this scenario I am shoving insurance and bank execs out of the way...
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 01:09 AM
Oct 2013

In order to get close enough to shout something.

In regards to the ACA, I would urge single payer.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
21. Less time-wasting consensus building.
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 01:14 AM
Oct 2013

Ram it through faster. Also explicitly sacrifice cap and trade to grease the wheels (Congress will never address climate change).

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