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TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 01:20 PM Jul 2014

Koch Brothers working to create app to steal elections - now the advanced way!

Last edited Thu Jul 24, 2014, 02:09 PM - Edit history (2)

Well here we are. Clint Curtis's prototype is now old technology. His software was created for the touchscreen voting machines (to see if they could be hacked).

Now Florida has moved back to "paper ballots" with all kinds of bad laws. Do know their programmed memory cards are still in use, in the opti scan machines. They count the way they are programmed to count, and we are not allowed to look at the source code. The source code is "vendor proprietary information". Under Florida election law it is the electronic totals that are certified while doing a post certification audit a week later, after you call the results on a Tuesday night. Under Florida election law the audit percentage of paper ballots a week later is inadequate at 1-2%. The state is the problem. The state also narrowed the provision for a recount, after 100 years, from 1% to a half. This must be solved county by county. As important as Pinellas County is to the state and country, I would like to see a charter amendment for a 5% audit, to mirror Sarasota County's and their successful efforts in these matters.

Because an audit of 3-5% will stop these devastating shenanigans that now something as simple as an "app" can do to the integrity of the citizens vote to be counted accurately, we must begin to discuss these matters now. An adequate audit can stop what the Koch brothers are now up to....all over the United States, not just Florida.

I met with Rep Hooper(R) (now running for Pinellas County Commission) when he wanted our FL military to vote 'over the internet" overseas. It was not a great meeting. I contacted him later to let him know that his support for a 'machine' was put to the test in DC. They had university tech teams try to hack it. U of M won the "hack test" and to be funny, inserted their fight song! I've shared all of this with you in the past. (They resolved the overseas voting, but that also is still in need of an adequate audit.)

Florida paper ballots are stored away for recount purposes only. We are relying on electronic totals. Now read below, it's so much easier now to hack. All we need in Florida is an audit of at least 3% but I'd like to follow conservative Sarasota with 5%. And thank you again Kindra!

And don't forget this:

Florida Election software Flips Vote: Losers Certified as Winners (2012)
http://miami.cbslocal.com/2012/10/09/cbs4-investigates-palm-beach-countys-2012-ballot-debacle/

Look how late to the party we are.....
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http://news.yahoo.com/catching-up-to-democrats-online--one-hack-at-a-time-125724049.html?soc_src=mediacontentstory&wpisrc=nl_rdin

-- A Koch brothers-affiliated group of tech-savvy developers who adhere to what they call "conservatarian" principles are sponsoring hackathons around the country to develop The Next Great App to help Republicans get elected. The events have been held in San Francisco, Seattle, Chicago and Miami. If the GOP suddenly closes the technological gap with Democrats, remember the name Lincoln Labs: They were probably behind it.

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Koch Brothers working to create app to steal elections - now the advanced way! (Original Post) TheNutcracker Jul 2014 OP
Florida is important as a large state, currently it's transending lousy EDU, lack of regulation, etc TheNutcracker Jul 2014 #1
PS spending time suing Obama and denying healthcare to many TheNutcracker Jul 2014 #2
Please kick to the greatest! TheNutcracker Jul 2014 #6
Please kick, Florida needs our help BIGTIME! TheNutcracker Jul 2014 #3
Here is the University of Mich. tech team hack! TheNutcracker Jul 2014 #4
Jebby got this all in place via the 2000 election show! Pimples and dimples and chads...oh my! TheNutcracker Jul 2014 #5
Kicked to the greatest page. Fuddnik Jul 2014 #8
And remember it's the democrats fav candidate Crist, who signed this bullshit bill! TheNutcracker Jul 2014 #12
What else matters? We must have our votes counted. TheNutcracker Jul 2014 #7
If every red cent spent is accounted for each and every day randr Jul 2014 #9
Actually, when FLA reinstated it's paper ballot, it was Gov Charlie Crist who signed the lousy bill TheNutcracker Jul 2014 #10
Now, you may see Charlie Crist get bit in the ass by his own signature paper ballot bill.... TheNutcracker Jul 2014 #11
Nothing will change until we have an adequate audit of all electronics used in vote counting. TheNutcracker Jul 2014 #13
Still nothing in the nooze? I've worked on this issue since 2004. Activists just pick up rally signs TheNutcracker Jul 2014 #14
Maybe a few more tweets would help? TheNutcracker Jul 2014 #15
Thanks for the tweets! Now a few more along with a few more rec's would be fantastic! TheNutcracker Jul 2014 #16
This is the most important: Audits of all counts RobertEarl Jul 2014 #17
That's what I'm talking about. FLA auditing 1-2% is not even verifying 50%. TheNutcracker Jul 2014 #18
Rep. Rush Holt's HR811 was for a 3% across the board, as in NJ. TheNutcracker Jul 2014 #19
I'm kickinking and recommitting because I think you have something strong here to say. icymist Jul 2014 #20
I knew who he was and was part of the election reform group. Great man he was RIP TheNutcracker Jul 2014 #22
How have they not been arrested for treason yet? Initech Jul 2014 #21
It certainly is terrorism. Can we get Kerry and Carter to watch over elections here? TheNutcracker Jul 2014 #23
I've worked hard to keep this going, just to prove even MSNBC won't touch it! TheNutcracker Jul 2014 #24
People have been mailed ballots in FLA now, can we get a few more recs? TheNutcracker Jul 2014 #25
... randys1 Jul 2014 #26
 

TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
2. PS spending time suing Obama and denying healthcare to many
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 01:32 PM
Jul 2014

sad state of affairs and they need to get a hold of their vote counting laws.

 

TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
3. Please kick, Florida needs our help BIGTIME!
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 01:38 PM
Jul 2014

They need help getting the conversation going....we know it' usually not allowed.

 

TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
4. Here is the University of Mich. tech team hack!
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 01:42 PM
Jul 2014

DC Online Voting System HACKED To Play Fight Song After ...
www.huffingtonpost.com/.../dc-online-voting-syste...


The Huffington Post

Oct 5, 2010 - (JESSICA GRESKO, AP) WASHINGTON — University of Michigan students ... The students had rigged the site to play the Michigan fight song "The ... Stenbjorn said, however, that the hack was exactly why officials asked for help testing the system. ... Voting Machine Hacked to Play Pac-Man | Geekosystem.


getting this yet? This issue must be dealt with.

Fuddnik

(8,846 posts)
8. Kicked to the greatest page.
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 02:44 PM
Jul 2014

Let's not forget who helped Jebby in 2000. A former lobbyist for ChoicePoint, who handled the voter role purge, and is now the Chair of the Florida Democratic Party, Alison Tant.

And her hubby was an attorney in the Bush v Gore case. On the Bush side.

randr

(12,408 posts)
9. If every red cent spent is accounted for each and every day
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 03:27 PM
Jul 2014

there is no reason at all that our votes can not be counted accurately.
Any problem with this is a fault of our government not putting in place an accurate accounting system and it is a crime of the highest order.

 

TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
10. Actually, when FLA reinstated it's paper ballot, it was Gov Charlie Crist who signed the lousy bill
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 05:29 PM
Jul 2014
 

TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
14. Still nothing in the nooze? I've worked on this issue since 2004. Activists just pick up rally signs
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 09:23 AM
Jul 2014

and forget, the work that must be done first.

I will say at this point, the voters are one half of the problem.

 

TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
18. That's what I'm talking about. FLA auditing 1-2% is not even verifying 50%.
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 01:01 PM
Jul 2014

You don't know if the results are correct. And to even bring it up..."you don't trust us"? No....I don't trust the machines and their pre programmed memory cards!

 

TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
19. Rep. Rush Holt's HR811 was for a 3% across the board, as in NJ.
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 03:24 PM
Jul 2014

Thus verifying 70% of the vote. More than half.

icymist

(15,888 posts)
20. I'm kickinking and recommitting because I think you have something strong here to say.
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 03:35 PM
Jul 2014

You kind of remind me of my friend Andy.

KICK!

Initech

(99,914 posts)
21. How have they not been arrested for treason yet?
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 03:58 PM
Jul 2014

This election rigging and tampering bullshit is not only treasonous, it's terrorism.

 

TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
24. I've worked hard to keep this going, just to prove even MSNBC won't touch it!
Sat Jul 26, 2014, 04:48 PM
Jul 2014

But they all talk about how important Florida is.....blah blah blah...

 

TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
25. People have been mailed ballots in FLA now, can we get a few more recs?
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 12:58 PM
Jul 2014

We need a discussion on an issue the media, and congress refuses to discuss. This won't be easy. While admire political work that people do, I just don't understand why this is ignored, for a rally sign. OUR WORK HAS CHANGED!

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