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Can people quit griping about this information coming only from Russia Times now?
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ukraine-crisis/german-tv-shows-nazi-symbols-helmets-ukraine-soldiers-n198961
Germans were confronted with images of their countrys dark past on Monday night, when German public broadcaster ZDF showed video of Ukrainian soldiers with Nazi symbols on their helmets in its evening newscast. In a report on the fragile cease-fire in eastern Ukraine, Moscow correspondent Bernhard Lichte used pictures of a soldier wearing a combat helmet with the "SS runes" of Hitlers infamous black-uniformed elite corps. A second soldier was seen with a swastika on his gear. Volunteer battalions from nearly every political spectrum are reinforcing the government side, the ZDF correspondent said in his report.
The video was shot last week in Ukraine by a camera team from Norwegian broadcaster TV2. We were filming a report about Ukraines AZOV battalion in the eastern city of Urzuf, when we came across these soldiers, Oysten Bogen, a correspondent for the private television station, told NBC News. Minutes before the images were taped, Bogen said he had asked a spokesperson whether the battalion had fascist tendencies. The reply was: absolutely not, we are just Ukrainian nationalists, Bogen said.
malaise
(267,808 posts)Some folks don't want the truth
Many of us knew that months ago, but because the news came from bloggers or eyewitnesses (unreliable sources, because it's not mainstream media, or worse, from Ukrainian Russians or Russia Russians), they were just rumors or people bad-mouthing the glorious Ukrainian revolution.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)But I do not think that anyone has said that some of the volunteer Battalions are all all perfect. It is more accurate that these are outliers and should be condemned. There are some her that say all Ukrainians are Nazis and that is absurd.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)The Kiev regime defenders are going to extremes these days.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)Those self appointed leaders were surely democratically elected right? And the Right Sector did very poorly in those elections so they are indeed a small minority. Party of Regions gave up on the parliamentary elections because their base would not be allowed to vote by the separatists.
Naryshkin does not rule it out that Duma members will travel to monitor elections to Rada
Our party will not take part in the upcoming elections because a fourth of the country or almost 7 million electors will not be able to vote, Kolesnikov said.
Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko dissolved the Verkhovna Rada (the Ukrainian parliament) on August 25 in a move to clean the parliament from the allies of his predecessor Yanukovych and scheduled snap parliamentary elections for October 26
http://en.itar-tass.com/world/749497
Surprise democratic elections, for the president and now the parliament. The east not so much.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)Kiev Government.
What is so stunning is that the reports have been consistent and extremely disturbing and it's astounding that anyone here on this forum would choose to attack the messengers and refuse to even the issue for what appear to be political reasons.
There have been atrocities committed in Ukraine against innocent people. And people willing to dismiss them or try to minimize them.
Two of our own Senators posed with the leader of the Nazi Party, willing apparently to do ANYTHING to enslave that country to the IMF.
We often wonder why the German people were so willing to overlook the early signs that the government they supported might not be what it pretended to be. Over the past few years that question which I know I and many others have wondered about all of our lives, has been answered.
Crimes were committed in Eastern Ukraine. It is the DUTY of every person there to start investigating rather than ignoring and denying the atrocities committed by these thugs. Otherwise they have zero legitimacy and should be shunned by any civilized nation and THIS ONE should stop encouraging and supporting them in our name.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,207 posts)Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)It was on RT
Tarheel_Dem
(31,207 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)responsible for that crime. But the Corporate Media says it is so, so it MUST BE!
Tarheel_Dem
(31,207 posts)Cayenne
(480 posts)Trillo
(9,154 posts)Download mp3
Like any lender, the IMF makes conditions when it loans money. In most countries, the IMF insists on at least the opening up of markets to foreign companies. With a bankrupt economy, Ukraine will only welcome foreign investment in its agriculture. Under article 404 of the Associative Agreement that Ukraine has signed with the EU, the country agrees to cooperate to extend the use of biotechnologies, which is the Monsanto euphemism for GMOs crops. Cultivation of GMO crops was banned in Ukraine right up until the present leaders took power in Kiev. American GMO companies can now start large-scale cultivation of GMO modified crops, and establish a back door into the EU, where growing such crops is banned in most countries. For reasons best known to the corporations involved, hardly a word about this has been printed in worlds mainstream press.
Why is Ukrainian agriculture of interest to other countries?
It seemed metaphorically related to the OP, but this isn't just "a few bad volunteer soldiers" with painted symbols on their helmets.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)Predators. Only here in the US thanks to the Corporate Media does anything in their right mind think otherwise.
Capitalism in the form of the IMF shows it's ugly self.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)That is why Yanukovich was driven from office. After he decided not to put the country into debt to the IMF. Until then, he was fine with the Western powers, no one cared much about the corruption they used later to oust him.
It was all about the IMF/World Bank and of course Ukraine's strategic position geopolitically.
newfie11
(8,159 posts)Do u not think this could be staged.
It wouldn't be the first time. Why was that Nuland woman setting up a government for Ukraine?
I never understood why America was deciding who should be in charge in Ukraine.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)It has been there for a long time and is worse in Russia.
We are deeply suspicious that people who have never before seemed concerned about the rampant antisemitism in eastern europe only seem concerned now in a way that dovetails with their politics.
This reminds me of how pinkwashing is used regarding LGBT rights and various countries.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,207 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)about it since their eggs are all in the Kiev regimes basket.
Comparing degrees of anti-Jewish sentiment in Kiev and Moscow is entirely unhelpful. Both were wrong before, and wrong now.
Just that the ones with Kiev are armed and ready, willing and able to kill and pillage, proudly sporting the symbols of their open hatred.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Response to eridani (Original post)
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eridani
(51,907 posts)To modern people, the swastika means only one thing, regardless of what it meant to ancient speakers of Sanskrit.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)You were replying to a spammer, I think. Just FYI.