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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMost of the people in Palestine TX think Adrian Peterson is justified in beating his kid.
Tyler TV station KLTV reported this:
As someone raised on the switch, Carpenter says that's what he swore by.
"I paddle my girls if they did something really wrong, and I think they all turned out just fine," Carpenter said.
But it seems many parents believe that era is coming to an end.
"I think people are led to understand that it is really important for you to communicate with your children," Stephens said.
Child advocates say discipline becomes abuse when it causes bodily harm to the child. But more importantly, it can cause long-term mental damage.
http://www.kltv.com/story/26560952/different-generations-discuss-the-evolution-of-corporal-punishment
TexasTowelie
(111,292 posts)While I think spanking is abusive, if a child has not reached the age to have the cognitive ability for other forms of punishment to work then it might be appropriate. The only area that should be spanked is the buttocks with an open hand. The child should never be beaten so hard to cause bleeding or leave scars. There is also an age when spanking is no longer appropriate and punishments like grounding or loss of privileges is more effective.
However, what Adrian Peterson did to his children went past the line and the word "beating" is the only way to describe it. There is a difference between discipline and abuse--Peterson crossed that line.
nomorenomore08
(13,324 posts)HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)'... for other forms of punishment to work...'.
I don't understand.
It seems that you are saying that for punishment to be effective (as in learning?) a child must be able to understand the circumstance of the punishment. Yet, corporal punishment somehow circumvents this limitation in conceptual communication and a pre-cognitive ability child can somehow learn the cognitively out-of-reach lesson after one, or perhaps more, swats on the butt with an open hand.
I really don't understand how that works.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)the problems are probably issues of supervision more than misbehavior.
Terra Alta
(5,158 posts)No matter how young the child is. There are other, and better ways to discipline your child other than hitting them.
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Hulk
(6,699 posts)Texas. Surprised?
Manifestor_of_Light
(21,046 posts)I'm a city girl and will always be one. I can't live without music of my favorite kinds.
dballance
(5,756 posts)Let's not forget certain opinions and attitudes far outlive any reasonableness.
Manifestor_of_Light
(21,046 posts)Rather than their mean instincts.
I wonder about people who are obsessed with calling other people bad names. It's the opposite of "right speech" as the Buddhists call it.
dballance
(5,756 posts)Actually, I think education and getting out of the 10 square miles of where one was born is really helpful.
I'd be willing to bet that "most" of those people in Palestine, TX have never been out of TX and seen other places. I'd be willing to bet they've only seen the other people in Palestine, TX who are much like them and who have never challenged any of their beliefs.
Cartoonist
(7,298 posts)Another example of how times have changed can often be found in old movies, and you don't have to go that far back. James Bond committed rape in Thunderball. Even then I'm sure many people were shocked, but I never heard any outcry. One scene that bothered me when I saw it recently on TV was in the movie McLintock. John Wayne took Maureen O'Hara over his knees and gave her a resounding spanking in front of others who just stood by, smiling. I didn't stick around to the finish, but she probably fell in love with him in the end.
I am really getting incenced by people saying they were abused as a child and came out OK. Good for them, but what about those whose lives were irreparably harmed, like my brother? They can go F themselves.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)whistler162
(11,155 posts)if that was most of the people!
Manifestor_of_Light
(21,046 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)Baclava
(12,047 posts)Of course, attention whoring headlines are all the rage these days
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)Lunacee_2013
(529 posts)to trust and love someone who hit me. Spanking, paddling, using a switch, or whatever just sounds like taking the easy way out and using violence to solve the problem. Of course spanking with an open hand is a little less harsh then hitting someone with a cane, but there's still a chance the kid is going to become resentful and sometimes angry somewhere down the line.
The only time I can see swatting at a kid is if they're reaching for something hot, like an oven, but only to keep them from getting seriously injured.
Disclaimer: I have no children of my own, but I do work and live in an in-home daycare center for newborns, babies and toddlers. I'm also a Texan, so not everyone here believes in the paddle.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)What part of a continuing cycle of violence don't these idiots get?