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kpete

(71,901 posts)
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 09:29 AM Sep 2014

"You wanted equality? BOOM! There's your equality. I decked you just like I would deck a man..."

Robert Stacy McCain is a real piece of work. It offends him that women would ask to be treated equally and then turn around and act outraged when a woman gets knocked unconscious by a man:


What if, instead of going to the casino with a date, Ray Rice had gone to the casino with a male buddy who got drunk and caused a scene? What if, after Ray and his buddy got on the elevator, the buddy had started yelling angrily at him, “getting in his face?”

BOOM.

There’s your equality. How do you like it?

Of course, feminists don’t believe in this kind of equality, an equality which would make women and men equally vulnerable to the consequences of “getting in the face” of a 200-pound pro athlete. However, as a skinny man who doesn’t enjoy pain, I can absolutely guarantee you that I would never make the mistake of engaging in a face-to-face shouting match with a guy like Ray Rice.

Here’s some helpful advice: Just walk away.

.....................

Just walk away.



http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/barbwire-ray-rice-punched-his-girlfriend-out-fear-feminism





I've been wondering how some would react if Ray Rice's fiance had pulled out a gun and shot him dead after he threw the first punch.

Self Defense, Stand Your Ground and all.
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el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
1. I find myself wondering what kind of relationships this guy has been in
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 09:31 AM
Sep 2014

That he thinks that's a good line of argument. Probably unpleasant ones.

Bryant

treestar

(82,383 posts)
2. That would be an assault too
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 09:33 AM
Sep 2014

He's acting like it's perfectly legal for men to beat up on other men.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
3. And I shall just walk away from idiots like Robert Stacy McCain.
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 09:33 AM
Sep 2014

Besides, he seems to miss that part in elevators where it's pretty difficult to "walk away" until the doors are open...or if you're lying on the floor unconscious.

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
4. and by "a guy like Ray Rice. " I assume he means a brutal asshole who likes to hit people smaller
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 09:45 AM
Sep 2014

than him.

Yeah i would not have anything to do with such a person either. He should die alone rather than any woman or man ever spend another second with such a person.

Threedifferentones

(1,070 posts)
5. Getting into an elevator with a "drunk buddy" is not the same at all...
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 09:46 AM
Sep 2014

as getting into an elevator with your sober fiancee. The situations are nowhere near equivalent, although Rice would of course be guilty of assault if he had knocked out his "buddy."

A much more equivalent hypothetical would be: what if there was a video of Michael Sam knocking out his boyfriend? I do think it is interesting to ask: would the people who phrase this problem as "violence against women" be anywhere near as upset about gay spousal abuse? Most of them probably would IMO, which does show that the phrase "violence against women" perhaps should be changed to "violence against innocent people who are nowhere near as strong as you." I guess that doesn't have quite the same ring to it.

Or, in other words, this MRA fool has taken one slight criticism of VAW and blown it way out of proportion. That criticism is:

The phrase "stop violence against women" implies that there is no need to stop violence against men, rather like the phrase "all men are created equal" implies that women are not. The omission of the other group in either phrase is obviously deliberate, the other sex is excluded my implication. Why should women get protections that men do not? Obviously men get a sort of protection by being on average bigger and stronger, but should that mean women get extra legal and cultural protections?

hlthe2b

(101,730 posts)
6. Geebus, Where does all this seething resentment toward women come from?
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 09:46 AM
Sep 2014

Did they not have mothers? sisters? female friends growing up?

Honestly, what is wrong with men like this?

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
7. I saw an asshole do that once
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 09:49 AM
Sep 2014

then she got up, tapped him on the shoulder and when he turned around, she kicked him so hard in the balls that his feet came off the ground.
While he was lying there screaming she told him not to ever even think about doing that again.

Tuesday Afternoon

(56,912 posts)
9. When will we, as a species, evolve past physical violence?
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 09:54 AM
Sep 2014

I am pretty sure that would be the feminist POV.

bhikkhu

(10,708 posts)
11. Sure - when a guy gets out of line, you just deck him
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 09:59 AM
Sep 2014

I've never seen it happen, except in lousy movies and tv shows.

jollyreaper2112

(1,941 posts)
12. no heroes
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 10:38 AM
Sep 2014

They all look bad. She was hitting him first. Nothing really justifies hitting someone except in self-defense when they can clearly do you damage. If you're throwing the first punch, you're wrong. If she had a knife or a gun, she could hurt him. Smacking her back would be warranted. She didn't have a knife. She couldn't hurt anything but his pride. He should have walked away. Bitches be crazy? Then you'd best be going the other way. Nothing good comes of being with crazy. But he hit her back to devastating effect and treated her with less dignity than a sack of potatoes. He has no self-control, no sense. And then she goes on to marry him which proves she's got no sense either. These are two horrible people who deserve each other. And then with the way the NFL and his team handled this, the owner and the executives and the spin doctors, everyone comes out looking horrible.

I have to admit to enjoying watching John Stossel get smacked down by the wrestler he was taunting but that's because I think he's an awful, horrible person. That doesn't make it right. That wrestler had 150lbs on him and veins full of 'roids. A smack like that could have killed him. But again, two horrible people who deserve each other.

H2O Man

(73,333 posts)
13. Those who commit
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 10:54 AM
Sep 2014

domestic violence never are looking to confront their equal; they always pick someone who is smaller, weaker, and/or unlikely to strike back.

MadrasT

(7,237 posts)
16. Only if you harbor the fucked up notion
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 01:32 PM
Sep 2014

that it is OK for men to just haul off and punch other men.

What a dipshit.

dilby

(2,273 posts)
18. Dumbest arguement ever, how about it's illegal to assault a man as well.
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 02:33 PM
Sep 2014

Any time I hear someone say I women want to be treated like men I remind them it's illegal to punch a man in the face as well so women are just asking for the same respect.

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