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alp227

(31,962 posts)
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 09:38 PM Sep 2014

Nike stands by soccer goalkeeper Hope Solo, charged with fourth-degree domestic violence assault

Nike is for now keeping its sponsorship with soccer goalkeeper Hope Solo, who is facing domestic violence charges, the company said Tuesday.

"We are aware of the allegations and that Hope Solo has pled not guilty to the charges," spokesman Greg Rossiter said. "Hope remains a Nike athlete and we will continue to monitor the situation."

Solo is charged with two misdemeanor counts of fourth-degree domestic violence assault in Washington state stemming from a June 21 altercation with her sister-in-law and 17-year-old nephew at a family gathering.

She has pleaded not guilty and the case is scheduled for trial Nov. 4. She faces up to six months in jail if convicted.

full: http://www.oregonlive.com/playbooks-profits/index.ssf/2014/09/nike_stands_by_soccer_goalkeep.html

It doesn't matter if Solo got in a fight with other family members as opposed to abusing her boyfriend/romantic partner. Violence is violence.

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Nike stands by soccer goalkeeper Hope Solo, charged with fourth-degree domestic violence assault (Original Post) alp227 Sep 2014 OP
No double standard here....nope. davidn3600 Sep 2014 #1
Sarcasm really?? Kalidurga Sep 2014 #2
Even though the legal system may let male athletes off the hook, alp227 Sep 2014 #3
that's true Kalidurga Sep 2014 #4
Male athletes being accused of violence are being forced to sit until their cases are settled davidn3600 Sep 2014 #5
We only see a fraction of the cases Kalidurga Sep 2014 #7
"the feminists"? Say what? nt alp227 Sep 2014 #9
Feminist groups, NOW, etc... davidn3600 Sep 2014 #11
Two male atheletes have been gollygee Sep 2014 #10
Actually 4 have been davidn3600 Sep 2014 #12
So who are the 3 other female athletes besides Hope? R B Garr Sep 2014 #14
So women and men shouldn't be held to the same standards when it comes to violence? davidn3600 Sep 2014 #15
So you don't have a list of 4 female athletes that are accused of violence? R B Garr Sep 2014 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author davidn3600 Sep 2014 #17
So you don't have a list of 4 female athletes so you turn to personal insults. R B Garr Sep 2014 #18
And you STILL can't answer the question of wheter men and women should be treated equally davidn3600 Sep 2014 #19
Ooh, you've been done here a lot longer than now. R B Garr Sep 2014 #23
ok GummyBearz Sep 2014 #24
"more black people commit crimes" R B Garr Sep 2014 #25
4 of how many who have been accused of domestic violence? gollygee Sep 2014 #22
LOL, nice try. Amazing how the tune changes for her. nt Logical Sep 2014 #6
Nope I think she should be treated the same. Kalidurga Sep 2014 #8
We should continue to push for men who commit domestic violence to go to jail. We should not liberal_at_heart Sep 2014 #13
There is a double standard. NaturalHigh Sep 2014 #20
You can't use the double-standard argument for this case and here's why justiceischeap Sep 2014 #21

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
2. Sarcasm really??
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 10:01 PM
Sep 2014

a double standard in this case would be to punish her since so many male athletes get away with domestic violence. I think they should do the same thing they would do with a male athelete after she is convicted or not.

alp227

(31,962 posts)
3. Even though the legal system may let male athletes off the hook,
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 10:09 PM
Sep 2014

nowadays the sports leagues & sponsors will step away from a male athlete ACCUSED of DV.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
4. that's true
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 10:12 PM
Sep 2014

I have seen a few cases where it took a while for them to back off though, I suspect that is what will happen here. A few angry phone calls and Nike will cancel the contract.

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
5. Male athletes being accused of violence are being forced to sit until their cases are settled
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 10:12 PM
Sep 2014

This is what the feminists are demanding of male athletes ACCUSED of violent crimes.

Yet when Hope Solo commits a violent crime, it's OK for her to play and represent America.

That's a double standard.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
7. We only see a fraction of the cases
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 10:16 PM
Sep 2014

the Minnesota Vikings have had 44 players accused of violent felonies over the course of their history the most of any team in the NFL that is one team in for one sport. I do think she should be suspended I do think Nike should drop her. But, that is not how things are always or even most the time done with male athletes.

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
11. Feminist groups, NOW, etc...
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 10:27 PM
Sep 2014

They've called for Roger Goodell to resign. They've called for players accused of these crimes to be cut/suspended/dropped.

Yes, I am singling them out here a bit because I don't see National Organization for Women demanding USA Soccer or Nike to drop Solo.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
10. Two male atheletes have been
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 10:26 PM
Sep 2014

Google "domestic violence athletes" and you'll see some articles about more than two, and many who continued to play. The two male athletes who have not been allowed to continue playing are not the only male athletes accused of domestic violence.

But if one single woman exists anywhere with a domestic violence charge of any degree who is still participating in her sport, then all men should be let off the hook?

I don't think it's a double standard, just a small sample size and not representative of how things work overall. There are many more male than female athletes in the public eye, and many who have been accused of various crimes and who have continued to play. Do a little googling if you question that. Since there are so many, there will be a greater variety of responses by the teams that employ them.

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
12. Actually 4 have been
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 01:13 AM
Sep 2014

Ray Rice, Greg Hardy, Adrian Peterson, and Jonathan Dwyer are the current ones.
And there was some talk about going back retroactively on a few guys but the players union would be likely to fight that and win.

Right now, because of this controversy, the NFL was forced to change it's personal conduct policy. If any athlete in the NFL is charged with a violent crime, he's going to be suspended. If that is the rule that we are going to have, that anyone who is arrested for a violent crime be suspended before due process, then it needs to apply to everyone...male and female...equally.

And Keith Olbermann also said Hope Solo needs to be pulled off the field...

R B Garr

(16,920 posts)
14. So who are the 3 other female athletes besides Hope?
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 01:47 AM
Sep 2014

You listed 4 males, so you must have 4 current females in mind in your grand tit for tat strategy.

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
15. So women and men shouldn't be held to the same standards when it comes to violence?
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 02:33 AM
Sep 2014

When women commit violence it shouldn't be considered as bad because it doesnt happen as often and therefore shouldnt be punished as a man is? Is that what you are saying?

R B Garr

(16,920 posts)
16. So you don't have a list of 4 female athletes that are accused of violence?
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 04:02 AM
Sep 2014

You came up with 4 male names right away.

Response to R B Garr (Reply #16)

R B Garr

(16,920 posts)
18. So you don't have a list of 4 female athletes so you turn to personal insults.
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 04:43 AM
Sep 2014

No surprise there.

Obviously female athlete violence hasn't reached the critical mass to receive the same attention as male athlete violence. Unless you have a list of 4 female athletes (by your standards of outrage), that is. This isn't rocket science. Yes or no, do you have the names of 3 other female athletes accused of violence?

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
19. And you STILL can't answer the question of wheter men and women should be treated equally
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 04:54 AM
Sep 2014

Im done here. I dont need to go any further.

R B Garr

(16,920 posts)
23. Ooh, you've been done here a lot longer than now.
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 11:48 AM
Sep 2014

Thanks for finally realizing it.

Your false equivalencies define you and you do them over and over trying to make tangential connections that simply are not equal. You can't be serious and say that women athletes are not being held to the same standards when you can't even name any female athletes. (oh yeah.........there's Hope).

 

GummyBearz

(2,931 posts)
24. ok
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 11:55 AM
Sep 2014

By your argument, since more black people commit crimes, they should be treated harsher in the justice system than white people... I guess that happens anyway. Are you a LEO? Or just a dumbass?

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
22. 4 of how many who have been accused of domestic violence?
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 07:11 AM
Sep 2014

Not all male athletes accused of domestic violence end up getting kicked off their team. It does look like things are changing and NFL players are going to be held to a higher standard than they have in the past, but this is all a new expectation - that there would be any penalty to an athlete at all. So there's this brand new policy being developed, and you've found another sport that maybe hasn't had as many athletes involved in domestic violence and hasn't started a policy yet. The expectation that because the NFL is starting to take domestic violence seriously, every other sport, or at least women's sports, should be at least as far along if not farther in order for things to be fair is not realistic. Maybe we should be glad that standards are changing. Are even all men's sports creating policies regarding domestic violence at this point?

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
13. We should continue to push for men who commit domestic violence to go to jail. We should not
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 01:27 AM
Sep 2014

be excusing women who do it because the men aren't going to jail. Any one found guilty of assault should be put in jail regardless of gender. And um there was a baby involved in the incident. There is no excuse for that. Not only should she be put in jail for assault but she should also go to jail for child endangerment.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
20. There is a double standard.
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 06:51 AM
Sep 2014

If male athletes are to be benched when accused, so should female athletes.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
21. You can't use the double-standard argument for this case and here's why
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 07:10 AM
Sep 2014

The NFL introduced a new personal conduct policy in 2007. According to Wikipedia, as of 2011, there had been 7 suspensions. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Football_League_player_conduct_controversy

What made this so controversial with Ray Rice is that it appeared there was a double-standard set by the NFL. Rice was too valuable to lose for too long, so his suspension wasn't much to look at to begin with.

Does the national women's soccer league have the same personal conduct policy? If they did, and didn't enforce it, that would be a double-standard. Soccer and football are not governed by the same rules, so you can't try and apply one organizations' rules and policies to point out a double-standard in another sport who doesn't use the same rules and policies.

Do I think Solo should be benched until adjudication? Yes, I do but you can't claim a double-standard unless the same rules apply to all athletes in every sport and they don't unless we're talking Olympics.

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