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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNike stands by soccer goalkeeper Hope Solo, charged with fourth-degree domestic violence assault
Nike is for now keeping its sponsorship with soccer goalkeeper Hope Solo, who is facing domestic violence charges, the company said Tuesday.
"We are aware of the allegations and that Hope Solo has pled not guilty to the charges," spokesman Greg Rossiter said. "Hope remains a Nike athlete and we will continue to monitor the situation."
Solo is charged with two misdemeanor counts of fourth-degree domestic violence assault in Washington state stemming from a June 21 altercation with her sister-in-law and 17-year-old nephew at a family gathering.
She has pleaded not guilty and the case is scheduled for trial Nov. 4. She faces up to six months in jail if convicted.
full: http://www.oregonlive.com/playbooks-profits/index.ssf/2014/09/nike_stands_by_soccer_goalkeep.html
It doesn't matter if Solo got in a fight with other family members as opposed to abusing her boyfriend/romantic partner. Violence is violence.
davidn3600
(6,342 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)a double standard in this case would be to punish her since so many male athletes get away with domestic violence. I think they should do the same thing they would do with a male athelete after she is convicted or not.
alp227
(31,962 posts)nowadays the sports leagues & sponsors will step away from a male athlete ACCUSED of DV.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)I have seen a few cases where it took a while for them to back off though, I suspect that is what will happen here. A few angry phone calls and Nike will cancel the contract.
davidn3600
(6,342 posts)This is what the feminists are demanding of male athletes ACCUSED of violent crimes.
Yet when Hope Solo commits a violent crime, it's OK for her to play and represent America.
That's a double standard.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)the Minnesota Vikings have had 44 players accused of violent felonies over the course of their history the most of any team in the NFL that is one team in for one sport. I do think she should be suspended I do think Nike should drop her. But, that is not how things are always or even most the time done with male athletes.
alp227
(31,962 posts)davidn3600
(6,342 posts)They've called for Roger Goodell to resign. They've called for players accused of these crimes to be cut/suspended/dropped.
Yes, I am singling them out here a bit because I don't see National Organization for Women demanding USA Soccer or Nike to drop Solo.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)Google "domestic violence athletes" and you'll see some articles about more than two, and many who continued to play. The two male athletes who have not been allowed to continue playing are not the only male athletes accused of domestic violence.
But if one single woman exists anywhere with a domestic violence charge of any degree who is still participating in her sport, then all men should be let off the hook?
I don't think it's a double standard, just a small sample size and not representative of how things work overall. There are many more male than female athletes in the public eye, and many who have been accused of various crimes and who have continued to play. Do a little googling if you question that. Since there are so many, there will be a greater variety of responses by the teams that employ them.
davidn3600
(6,342 posts)Ray Rice, Greg Hardy, Adrian Peterson, and Jonathan Dwyer are the current ones.
And there was some talk about going back retroactively on a few guys but the players union would be likely to fight that and win.
Right now, because of this controversy, the NFL was forced to change it's personal conduct policy. If any athlete in the NFL is charged with a violent crime, he's going to be suspended. If that is the rule that we are going to have, that anyone who is arrested for a violent crime be suspended before due process, then it needs to apply to everyone...male and female...equally.
And Keith Olbermann also said Hope Solo needs to be pulled off the field...
R B Garr
(16,920 posts)You listed 4 males, so you must have 4 current females in mind in your grand tit for tat strategy.
davidn3600
(6,342 posts)When women commit violence it shouldn't be considered as bad because it doesnt happen as often and therefore shouldnt be punished as a man is? Is that what you are saying?
R B Garr
(16,920 posts)You came up with 4 male names right away.
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R B Garr
(16,920 posts)No surprise there.
Obviously female athlete violence hasn't reached the critical mass to receive the same attention as male athlete violence. Unless you have a list of 4 female athletes (by your standards of outrage), that is. This isn't rocket science. Yes or no, do you have the names of 3 other female athletes accused of violence?
davidn3600
(6,342 posts)Im done here. I dont need to go any further.
R B Garr
(16,920 posts)Thanks for finally realizing it.
Your false equivalencies define you and you do them over and over trying to make tangential connections that simply are not equal. You can't be serious and say that women athletes are not being held to the same standards when you can't even name any female athletes. (oh yeah.........there's Hope).
By your argument, since more black people commit crimes, they should be treated harsher in the justice system than white people... I guess that happens anyway. Are you a LEO? Or just a dumbass?
R B Garr
(16,920 posts)gollygee
(22,336 posts)Not all male athletes accused of domestic violence end up getting kicked off their team. It does look like things are changing and NFL players are going to be held to a higher standard than they have in the past, but this is all a new expectation - that there would be any penalty to an athlete at all. So there's this brand new policy being developed, and you've found another sport that maybe hasn't had as many athletes involved in domestic violence and hasn't started a policy yet. The expectation that because the NFL is starting to take domestic violence seriously, every other sport, or at least women's sports, should be at least as far along if not farther in order for things to be fair is not realistic. Maybe we should be glad that standards are changing. Are even all men's sports creating policies regarding domestic violence at this point?
Logical
(22,457 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)be excusing women who do it because the men aren't going to jail. Any one found guilty of assault should be put in jail regardless of gender. And um there was a baby involved in the incident. There is no excuse for that. Not only should she be put in jail for assault but she should also go to jail for child endangerment.
NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)If male athletes are to be benched when accused, so should female athletes.
justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)The NFL introduced a new personal conduct policy in 2007. According to Wikipedia, as of 2011, there had been 7 suspensions. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Football_League_player_conduct_controversy
What made this so controversial with Ray Rice is that it appeared there was a double-standard set by the NFL. Rice was too valuable to lose for too long, so his suspension wasn't much to look at to begin with.
Does the national women's soccer league have the same personal conduct policy? If they did, and didn't enforce it, that would be a double-standard. Soccer and football are not governed by the same rules, so you can't try and apply one organizations' rules and policies to point out a double-standard in another sport who doesn't use the same rules and policies.
Do I think Solo should be benched until adjudication? Yes, I do but you can't claim a double-standard unless the same rules apply to all athletes in every sport and they don't unless we're talking Olympics.