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Top Republican Presidential Candidate Says Anarchy May Force Cancellation Of 2016 Election (Original Post) sabbat hunter Sep 2014 OP
If they do nominate him The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2014 #1
Technical point.... Wounded Bear Sep 2014 #3
the debt is increasing sabbat hunter Sep 2014 #6
OK, good point. Nevertheless, The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2014 #8
We can only hope that the GOP elects this loon sufrommich Sep 2014 #2
Ben Carson is not a top presidential candidate Le Taz Hot Sep 2014 #4
He is not listed in any Republican polls. former9thward Sep 2014 #5
I am quoting the article headline sabbat hunter Sep 2014 #7
The article indicates he finished 'a close second' in the straw vote at the Values Voters Conference Shrike47 Sep 2014 #11
Michele Bachmann won a straw poll, too. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2014 #16
Yes, but I'm talking about real polls... former9thward Sep 2014 #18
This is a smoke screen. They want the US House and not US citizens to select the next President. LonePirate Sep 2014 #9
Believe it or not, younger DUers . . . Brigid Sep 2014 #10
That's true. There was a time when people like Carson, The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2014 #14
He would never have been allowed near a presidential motorcade louis-t Sep 2014 #17
He is about 10 of 10 in the pecking order, since they have a scam candidate theater CK_John Sep 2014 #12
Carson was on Faux this morning... Archae Sep 2014 #13
But the fact that anyone is even considering the possibility The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2014 #15

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,280 posts)
1. If they do nominate him
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 11:24 AM
Sep 2014

his campaign will crash and burn on takeoff. Every day he says something a bit loonier - like this statement that the "increasing national debt" will cause anarchy. Except that the national debt isn't increasing; under OBama it has decreased. But, hey, facts are for losers. I hope they do nominate him. He may be a fine surgeon but where politics are concerned he's a cross between Sarah Palin and Rick Perry with a touch of Herman Cain. And southern GOPers in particular aren't going to vote for a black guy, even one who spouts their favorite brand of nonsense.

Wounded Bear

(58,440 posts)
3. Technical point....
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 11:27 AM
Sep 2014

and it's why they can get away with the lie. The "debt" is still increasing, although the "deficit" has decreased significantly, which means the debt is increasing at a slower rate.

The evil beauty of it is that the conserves can complain about either one, and just shift from one term to the other. Their ignorant minions don't realize the difference, so it works for them.

sabbat hunter

(6,825 posts)
6. the debt is increasing
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 11:28 AM
Sep 2014

it is the deficits that are decreasing.
As long as we run a yearly budget deficit, the overall debt goes up.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,280 posts)
8. OK, good point. Nevertheless,
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 11:31 AM
Sep 2014

it's usually the deficit they complain about, which is in fact shrinking, and the more it shrinks the more slowly the debt will increase, so there is no financial apocalypse in store as Carson suggests. Wasn't it Dick Cheney who said "deficits don't matter?" And regardless, it's not going to cause "anarchy."

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
2. We can only hope that the GOP elects this loon
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 11:26 AM
Sep 2014

as their nominee,it would be a democratic bloodbath of epic proportions.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
4. Ben Carson is not a top presidential candidate
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 11:27 AM
Sep 2014

unless the teaklanners decide to break away from the Republicans and form their own party, in which case, there's no way they're going to nominate a person of color for their candidate.

Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
11. The article indicates he finished 'a close second' in the straw vote at the Values Voters Conference
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 11:34 AM
Sep 2014

So he's second among the crazy right fringe, making him a real contender!

former9thward

(31,805 posts)
18. Yes, but I'm talking about real polls...
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 12:11 PM
Sep 2014

like of actual voters. My friends and I can get together in my living room and do a poll but I don't think it would mean much.

LonePirate

(13,386 posts)
9. This is a smoke screen. They want the US House and not US citizens to select the next President.
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 11:32 AM
Sep 2014

That's the only way a Republican will be selected in 2016.

Brigid

(17,621 posts)
10. Believe it or not, younger DUers . . .
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 11:32 AM
Sep 2014

There was a time when a lunatic like Carson could not get near a presidential nomination -- not even the Republican nomination.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,280 posts)
14. That's true. There was a time when people like Carson,
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 11:44 AM
Sep 2014

Perry, Bachmann, Cain, and most of the other passengers in the GOP's clown cars in the last few election cycles would never have been allowed within 100 miles of a primary, let alone given the opportunity to present their "ideas" in a televised, presumably serious debate. But now they are taken seriously, and some of them have even managed to win congressional elections, which tells you something about the lunacy of the GOP "base." I can't think of a single Democratic contender for the nomination in any election who ever seemed to be actually mentally ill. For the GOP it's most of them.

CK_John

(10,005 posts)
12. He is about 10 of 10 in the pecking order, since they have a scam candidate theater
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 11:34 AM
Sep 2014

when Moderate Mitt is going to be the candidate. IMO.

Archae

(46,262 posts)
13. Carson was on Faux this morning...
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 11:41 AM
Sep 2014

Chris Wallace was honest for a change, and said even getting the nomination for Carson would be a real long shot.

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