The last person I want as President, is Hillary Clinton.........unless

[randys1]

I cant get over the number of threads or posts from people who just insist on accusing so many of us as being 3rd way, or anti left.

I dont know a human being in my real life who is more left than me...I could explain what makes me so left, but that would be boring.

The last person I want as president is Hillary Clinton, there are even some Democrats I would prefer over her and most of them are way too rightwing for me.







Unless the alternative is a Woman hating, Woman killing rightwinger who if elected will play to every disgusting hateful position the teaparty and the sick twisted pukes have.

Unless the alternative is someone who will kill social programs, attack science, all in hopes of endearing themselves to the haters.

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And the amount of energy on this board attacking Hillary is overwhelming.

Those of you who are so dead set against her must not believe a Republican president, Supreme Court, House and Senate are capable of harming and killing many people, is that right?

BTW, I am certain there are people here paid by the rightwing to spread a message of "dont vote at all, there are no good candidates"....and I am certain there are people here who are rightwingers, not paid, who have the same message and for the same reason.

But it is impossible to prove, so let's all pretend we are ALL well meaning Democrats who just disagree, shall we!

....???

[Katashi_itto]

1. Are you kidding? A Republican president would be ever bit as bad as Hillary.

But I suppose voting for Hillary will make some people feel good they are voting for our particular brand.

I am sure that she will help put through TPP if Obama can't, after all she helped write it.

[randys1]

4. But that is ridiculous, even if you just focus on abortion...

[Katashi_itto]

7. Great we get abortion and other "social" rights but get the middle class eliminated

So we can be poor AND have our social justice, yep makes sense.

[randys1]

11. Now you have lost all credibility, because you are saying if our choice

is economic disaster but Women keep their rights

or economic disaster AND Women dont keep their rights

???????????

That they are both the same?????????


You see this makes no sense...

[Katashi_itto]

13. How have I lost credibility? So your saying you believe that social justice will actually still be

real under our upcoming 1st world Somalia?

Justice in the US is already purchased.

You don't think it won't be even more magnified under general impoverishment?

Now you've lost credibility or you're believably naive.

Lol

[Kelvin Mace]

2. By any objective standard

Clinton and Obama are rightwing given their pro-corporate, pro-war, and pro-torture views.

[randys1]

5. And the teaparty and current republican party is EXTREME rightwing

capable of doing far greater damage

[Thinkingabout]

12. RW, either you are not familiar with RW or you don't know the Clintons or Obama.

Cognitive dissonance may work on you but as a life long Democrat it does not work for me.

[MohRokTah]

15. Nonsense!

By any objective standard, Barack Obama has been the most liberal president in history.

[randys1]

16. The combination of the entire republican party being guilty of malfeasance

including the entire teaparty, guilty of intentionally harming every single 99%er, and the so called Democrats relentlessly attacking Obama (you wanna see a list of grievances with Obama, I have one for you) we are witnessing a miracle performance by a man who has almost no friends.

As a borderline socialist I have lots of problems with Obama, but not because he is the problem but because the whole system is.

But he has literally performed miracles given the circumstances.

And even though I have many disagreements with him, I would not mention them as long as he has so many enemies in both political parties, simply wouldn't be fair.

[zappaman]

3. I will vote for the Democratic nominee.

Never the Republican one and I certainly won't throw away my vote on the Green Party.

[jaysunb]

9. I'm with you.

Mrs Clinton is not my first or second choice, but if she's the nominee, I will work for, give money and vote for her.

[VanillaRhapsody]

6. I trust the decision of my fellow Democrats....

Because thats how Democracy works...

[Katashi_itto]

8. lol...your still cheerleading for the status quo

To funny

[Thinkingabout]

10. K & R

I have some doubts about the ones they are pushing and when I read of a few nay votes on the ISIS resolution I really have my doubts. I am not a war hawk but when I see the news coming from this bunch and knowing Congressional members was briefed on the activities and then voted nay I don't think they are thinking straight on this matter.

I suspect there are trolls here with sole purpose to trash Hillary and they seen to think if they say their lies long enough then perhaps they can change our minds of looking at the records and coming around to their way of thinking. I even read today a phrase of "we the people" and know this is one of the TP lines.

[Chemisse]

14. I will vote for Hillary and do it with a smile.

If it is a choice between her and a (more) RW Republican.

I will vote no matter what.

I do have reservations about Hillary Clinton. But if it is a choice between Hilary and . . . just about any Republican I can think of, I will vote for her and be glad to at least keep the crazy out of the White House.