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Segami

(14,923 posts)
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 06:14 PM Mar 2015

Netanyahu INSULTS THE U.S. To Their Face While Taking $8.6 Million IN AID EVERY DAY




Is a stable and strong Israel important to the Middle Eastern region? Of course it is. However, that doesn’t mean we need to agree and bow down to everything that comes out of reelection hopeful Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s mouth. Republicans in Congress can’t seem to get enough of the warhawk prime minister. And it’s certain they wish President Obama was more like him and less like the logically sound, deep thinking, diplomatic chess player, and effective leader that he is. Republicans feel if you throw enough money at a problem overseas with enough might that somehow peace can evolve from an iron fist. However, this isn’t World War II. Conflict in the Middle East hasn’t suddenly risen overnight and isn’t the work of one man creating an opposition for domination. Middle Eastern conflict has existed longer than history books can recall. Throwing money and military might at the conflict will not solve anything long-term. In fact, it could make things far worse. President Obama is thinking long-term, and that’s why he is working on a deal that of course isn’t perfect, but is a step in the right direction in hopes of resolving conflict diplomatically. Diplomacy should always be the first option. Now, as Netanyahu spoke in front of a joint meeting of Congress, he approached his speech in a very skillfully formulated manner. He started by praising President Obama, this of course got a few Democrats to stand up and applaud — well-played, prime minister.

He said:

“We appreciate all that President Obama has done for Israel.

Now, some of that is widely known.

(APPLAUSE)

Some of that is widely known, like strengthening security cooperation and intelligence sharing, opposing anti-Israel resolutions at the U.N.

Some of what the president has done for Israel is less well- known.

I called him in 2010 when we had the Carmel forest fire, and he immediately agreed to respond to my request for urgent aid.

In 2011, we had our embassy in Cairo under siege, and again, he provided vital assistance at the crucial moment.

Or his support for more missile interceptors during our operation last summer when we took on Hamas terrorists.

(APPLAUSE)

In each of those moments, I called the president, and he was there.

And some of what the president has done for Israel might never be known, because it touches on some of the most sensitive and strategic issues that arise between an American president and an Israeli prime minister.

But I know it, and I will always be grateful to President Obama for that support.”


After that however, he decided he would tear into the president and spout off inflammatory rhetoric that he has used for decades and American conservatives eat up every word as though it is brand new.

“In this deadly game of thrones, there’s no place for America or for Israel, no peace for Christians, Jews or Muslims who don’t share the Islamist medieval creed, no rights for women, no freedom for anyone.

So when it comes to Iran and ISIS, the enemy of your enemy is your enemy.”


Holy sh*t. Bravo for that line, Hollywood may hire him after that one.

~snip~

To put it bluntly, Netanyahu wants things done his way or no way at all. He doesn’t want a deal with Iran to work, because then he doesn’t get his war. His entire speech was a rallying cry for war with Iran. If he wants to “protect Israel” he’d be best to let President Obama and Secretary John Kerry do what they need to do to protect Israel. If you think I’m being inflammatory myself saying Netanyahu wants war, look no further than Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX), because he agrees. First he said:

“The deal being negotiated today is reminiscent of Munich in 1938. . . And when the administration comes back to America and promises peace in our time, we shouldn’t believe them now any more than we should have believed them then.”


There’s that World War II rhetoric I told you about. Then he said:

“There is one threat, and one threat only, on the face of the globe with the potential to once again annihilate 6 million Jews. . . A nuclear Iran poses an existential threat to the nation of Israel, that’s what Prime Minister Netanyahu has told us.”


That is what he told us, isn’t it? Cruz continued, parroting Netanyahu:

“It is worth underscoring that the word existential does not mean a Frenchman in a black beret chain-smoking. . . It means going to the very existence of the nation of Israel.”

“If this deal is implemented, it will lead, ineluctably, to Iran acquiring nuclear weapons.”

“What the Obama administration doesn’t understand is these are radical Islamic zealots who have pledged global jihad and have openly stated their desire to murder as many Jews and as many Americans as possible. . . And if history teaches one lesson, it is that if somebody tells you they want to kill you, believe them.”


Comparing Iran to Nazi Germany? Well if that’s not a rallying cry for imminent war, I don’t know what is.




cont'

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/03/03/netanyahu-insults-the-u-s-to-their-face-while-taking-8-6-million-in-aid-every-day/
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Netanyahu INSULTS THE U.S. To Their Face While Taking $8.6 Million IN AID EVERY DAY (Original Post) Segami Mar 2015 OP
"....Look, if there’s one thing the United States has done really well,.. Segami Mar 2015 #1
Fuck. That. Shit. Autumn Mar 2015 #2
I wonder if the republicans will invite Putin next! RKP5637 Mar 2015 #3
Not to Congress,....more likely a beach party... Segami Mar 2015 #7
LOL!!! RKP5637 Mar 2015 #9
LOL, that made my day! Iliyah Mar 2015 #21
God. Imagine Bohener in swim trunks. AngryDem001 Mar 2015 #35
Recommended. H2O Man Mar 2015 #4
It is amazing how little the sheeple Wellstone ruled Mar 2015 #5
Actually, the history goes back further than WWII. JDPriestly Mar 2015 #32
Thank You for this. Wellstone ruled Mar 2015 #44
unbelievable politicman Mar 2015 #6
They have universal healthcare and we still don't. Time to cut loose the dead weight. craigmatic Mar 2015 #19
Practically all the free world has universal healthcare davidn3600 Mar 2015 #23
So I'm confused... tavernier Mar 2015 #8
We need something like Ashcroft's Terror Alert (LOL) except now Flag Alert so RKP5637 Mar 2015 #11
$8.6 million a day. Brigid Mar 2015 #10
We need to end all foreign aid. bigwillq Mar 2015 #13
the us can easily support itself; its per capita, inflation adjusted gdp is higher than ever before ND-Dem Mar 2015 #45
Exactly! The US is a bunch of suckers often with foreign aid IMO. Meanwhile, our country is RKP5637 Mar 2015 #14
Just like rust... Segami Mar 2015 #15
well said! n/t wildbilln864 Mar 2015 #16
WE could use that money HERE. calimary Mar 2015 #26
You bet we could.. whathehell Mar 2015 #31
Warmonger. DCBob Mar 2015 #12
He thinks that the U.S. is easily manipulated Agony Mar 2015 #17
They can make their own food and weapons now. It's time to cut the apron strings. craigmatic Mar 2015 #18
This will probably get sent to a jury Omaha Steve Mar 2015 #20
Not today, I don't think AwakeAtLast Mar 2015 #37
Only Two Things Would Please Netanyahu: Regime Change or War - Fred Kaplan in Slate Joe Johns Mar 2015 #22
Welcome to DU, Joe Johns! calimary Mar 2015 #27
Thanks for the welcome Joe Johns Mar 2015 #41
It's a shameful thing to allow an endless money supply for war, while at home everything mother earth Mar 2015 #24
I am a very thoughtful reasonable man, therefore Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2015 #25
I think he watches too much HBO. And in his delusions he appears to think someone ELECTED him sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #28
Kickin' Faux pas Mar 2015 #29
Well, you gotta expect an Israeli Prime Minister to show at least a little chutzpah Bucky Mar 2015 #30
Sorry but that $$$ is spoken for...... DeSwiss Mar 2015 #33
Let him have his war, just send the IDF not US soldiers. LiberalArkie Mar 2015 #34
Israel can take a long walk off a short pier, AngryDem001 Mar 2015 #36
K&R, AngryDem001 Carolina Mar 2015 #40
the republicans showed the world today that they have ZERO respect for this President. spanone Mar 2015 #38
"Israel will take no advice from the United States.." Cha Mar 2015 #39
Its amazing... Segami Mar 2015 #43
I constantly hear.. sendero Mar 2015 #42
 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
1. "....Look, if there’s one thing the United States has done really well,..
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 06:20 PM
Mar 2015
"....it’s always having Israel’s back and funding them for whatever they need. The United States doesn’t even fund their own programs as well. We still don’t even have universal health care like every other industrialized nation because “we can’t afford it,” but we give billions (with a B) to Israel every year, no questions asked.

Aid to Israel from the United States averages out to be around $8.6 million dollars per day. In 2010, U.S. aid to Israel was $2.775 billion, then $3 billion in 2011, and $3.07 in 2012. Israel is receiving $3.15 billion per year from 2013-2018.

Then Netanyahu has the audacity to come to the United States, speak in front of the people who have given his nation these billions every year, and tell them their nation and leader is wrong...."
 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
5. It is amazing how little the sheeple
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 06:30 PM
Mar 2015

in America really know about Israel. Born in 1948 out of a answer for a place for the Jewish Refugees or displaced Jewish Population of World War 2 to call home. Roosevelt and Churchill didn't want them and Stalin would only send them to some Goulag,Palestine became the default Country. And Yes,we are still cleaning up the failed Empire of England,what a meal ticket. And now they are biting the very hand that feeds them.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
32. Actually, the history goes back further than WWII.
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 08:36 PM
Mar 2015

The Balfour Declaration (dated 2 November 1917) was a letter from the United Kingdom's Foreign Secretary Arthur James Balfour to Baron Rothschild (Walter Rothschild, 2nd Baron Rothschild), a leader of the British Jewish community, for transmission to the Zionist Federation of Great Britain and Ireland.

His Majesty's government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.[1][2]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration_of_1917

Chaim Azriel Weizmann (Hebrew: חיים עזריאל ויצמן? Ḥayīm Wayzman; 27 November 1874 – 9 November 1952) was a Zionist leader and Israeli statesman who served as President of the Zionist Organization and later as the first President of Israel. He was elected on 16 February 1949, and served until his death in 1952. Weizmann convinced the United States government to recognize the newly formed state of Israel.

Weizmann was also a biochemist who developed the acetone–butanol–ethanol fermentation process, which produces acetone through bacterial fermentation. He founded the Weizmann Institute of Science in Rehovot, Israel.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaim_Weizmann

In WWI, the allies needed acetone to make ammunition. Weizmann told the British they could use his patented method to produce acetone for free and all he wanted in return was Israel.

The leaders of the Zionist movement were for the most part loyal friends of the Allies during WWI and helped the Allies win.

The Ottoman Empire of which the Palestinian area was a part sided with Germany in WWI. Turkey sided with Germany in WWII. And the Palestinians in the Gaza strip were anti-Jewish in WWII. Eisenhower was dismayed to learn that in one of the countries in North Africa in which he wanted to see cooperation among all the people, he was told that would not work because the Jews were so unpopular.

Jews lived all over the Middle East but were not much safer there than they were in Europe.

During the negotiations for the Treaty of Versailles at the end of WWI, the negotiators were informed that the population of the area then recognized as Palestine was under one million.

Mark Twain, at the end of the 19th century reported that the area was only sparsely inhabited.

True? False? That was the information of the allies at the time of the Balfour Agreement.

I base these facts on Ike's Spies by Stephen Ambrose and Paris 1919, 6 Months that Changed the World by Margaret MacMillan and as for the statement about Mark Twain -- sorry I don't remember the source.

http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=ike%27s+spies&tag=mh0b-20&index=stripbooks&hvadid=3481176596&ref=pd_sl_7zwg86lzb1_p

http://www.amazon.com/Paris-1919-Months-Changed-World/dp/0375760520/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1425429251&sr=1-1&keywords=1919%2C+six+months+that+changed+the+world

I highly recommend both of these books. But the Paris 1919 Six Months that Changed the World is long.

Anyway, my point is that Israelis have done a lot over the course of the past few hundred years to keep western civilization ahead of the game in terms of military power and culture.

The problem is that Netanyahu treated his speech before our Congress like a speech before the parliament of a country that is organized in a parliamentary way. We have a very different system, and his speech was completely out of place in our system.

 

politicman

(710 posts)
6. unbelievable
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 06:31 PM
Mar 2015

Can anyone on here or anywhere else seriously continue to argue that the congress and other powerful positions in this country are not controlled by AIPAC and the 1%?

Even the president who was being directly insulted by Bibi giving a speech in front of Congress has to choose his words carefully so as not to upset AIPAC and its supporters.

How on earth can we be in a situation where the most powerful man on earth (the president) finds it difficult to publicly condemn the very man that has come to the U.S to publicly denounce the presidents foreign policy?

 

craigmatic

(4,510 posts)
19. They have universal healthcare and we still don't. Time to cut loose the dead weight.
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 07:07 PM
Mar 2015

The only reason why we're still helping them is the southern bible thumpers. What a waste of tax money. We get nothing for it. What does Israel do for us? What have they ever done for us?

tavernier

(12,322 posts)
8. So I'm confused...
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 06:37 PM
Mar 2015

Which flag is it that Boehner now wants us to fly? Are we still Old Glory, or are our colors now primarily blue and white? Or are we back to the rebel flag of the confederate days? (Gosh, this new congress is really confusing!)

RKP5637

(67,030 posts)
11. We need something like Ashcroft's Terror Alert (LOL) except now Flag Alert so
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 06:42 PM
Mar 2015

we know for sure when Boehner switches flags!

Brigid

(17,621 posts)
10. $8.6 million a day.
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 06:40 PM
Mar 2015

While kids in this country show up at school hungry and wonder what they're going to eat over the weekend or anytime school is not in session.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
13. We need to end all foreign aid.
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 06:46 PM
Mar 2015

The USA can no longer support itself, but yet it wants to support everyone else. No, thank you.

 

ND-Dem

(4,571 posts)
45. the us can easily support itself; its per capita, inflation adjusted gdp is higher than ever before
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 02:21 PM
Mar 2015

in history.

the money is being skimmed by the 1%.

RKP5637

(67,030 posts)
14. Exactly! The US is a bunch of suckers often with foreign aid IMO. Meanwhile, our country is
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 06:46 PM
Mar 2015

falling apart in so many ways, but the crooked monopolistic MSM seldom reports on that, sometimes, but not often IMO! Millions of people in the US are in very bad situations. One day, we'll be sitting here or our kids looking at a devastated US, many wondering, how the F did this happen.

calimary

(80,693 posts)
26. WE could use that money HERE.
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 08:07 PM
Mar 2015

He slaps us in the face and sticks it to our President? And we still shower money on him? Hmmmm... starting to think otherwise about this, I'm afraid.

 

craigmatic

(4,510 posts)
18. They can make their own food and weapons now. It's time to cut the apron strings.
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 07:04 PM
Mar 2015

Over the last 70 years or so they've done us more harm than good. They never fight in any of our wars in the middle east. They basically keep taking un-needed aid and now they want us to go to war with Iran. They're also not particularly friendly to African refugees who settle there. This is stupid. Any other country would've long pulled back from them.

Omaha Steve

(99,061 posts)
20. This will probably get sent to a jury
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 07:23 PM
Mar 2015

Simply for saying cut some of the funding ASAP and Netanyahu won't get reelected.

calimary

(80,693 posts)
27. Welcome to DU, Joe Johns!
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 08:08 PM
Mar 2015

Glad you're here! This guy scares the crap out of me. And that he has such a large and prominent platform to pull this shit scares me even more.

 

Joe Johns

(91 posts)
41. Thanks for the welcome
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 10:00 PM
Mar 2015

Without AIPAC, Bibi would'vr been told to go screw himself long before Obama came along.

mother earth

(6,002 posts)
24. It's a shameful thing to allow an endless money supply for war, while at home everything
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 07:52 PM
Mar 2015

deteriorates because no amount of money is enough for these warmongers & the oligarchs...time to wake the hell up.

It's blatant insult to the USA, our own Congress adds insult to injury.

K & R, Segami!!!

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
25. I am a very thoughtful reasonable man, therefore
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 08:03 PM
Mar 2015

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Oh, did I say FUCK YOU NUTANDYAHOO!!!????

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
28. I think he watches too much HBO. And in his delusions he appears to think someone ELECTED him
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 08:10 PM
Mar 2015

to a higher position than the POTUS. Which gives him the right, he believes, to admonish and/or praise the President for what this character who clearly IS about the Present believes he earned good or bad marks for.

The problem is, Congress appears to agree with him.

Carolina

(6,960 posts)
40. K&R, AngryDem001
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 09:57 PM
Mar 2015

I feel the same. Israel is a bully nation led by a bully yahoo and the US needs to cut it loose to sink or swim on its own.

Time to spend our tax dollars at home rather than aiding and abetting Bibi with more than $8 billion of our $$$$

spanone

(135,632 posts)
38. the republicans showed the world today that they have ZERO respect for this President.
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 09:23 PM
Mar 2015

they invited the leader of a foreign nation to stand where the President stands and then shit all over him while

getting standing ovations. ain't that something.

ain't that america.



 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
43. Its amazing...
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 10:40 PM
Mar 2015

..that I didn't hear any reTHUGS shout out 'BIBI, YOU LIE'.......I guess not,...they save such disrespect for the sitting President of the United States while addressing congress at The State Of The Union......


sendero

(28,552 posts)
42. I constantly hear..
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 10:07 PM
Mar 2015

.... about how Israel is our "friend" in the Middle East. I see 8.6 daily million reasons we are their friend, but when are they our friend? They ignore every thing we say, they do as they please and they expect US to fight and die for their interests.

It's ridiculous.

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