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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWell the Pope and his minions have arrested
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ONE more person than they have for molesting children.
They probably have spent more time and effort on ferreting their mole out than protecting the innocent.
They can take their cloven-footed selves and go to hell.
Initech
(99,915 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Is that like the wettest fish ever? The smelliest shit? Lumpiest potato?
What I'm saying is that the bar in question has never been significantly elevated in the first place.
Even from that rock-bottom standard though, I think the Avignon Papacy might still be "worse" than Darth Benedict.
SemperEadem
(8,053 posts)but really, has there ever been a good one?
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)I suppose that if you have a particularly loose one that doesn't regard taking a position as God's Own Anointed King to rule a sizable chunk of the world's christians through the art of charlatanism, then... maybe?
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)I like the way you put that.
Peace Patriot
(24,010 posts)Began democratizing the Church. Listened to people, responded, changed the whole direction of the Church--toward openness, tolerance, kindness, inclusiveness. The fascists couldn't wait to get rid of him and start undoing his tremendous work ("Vatican II" --kind of like what the Reaganites and Bushwhacks have done to the "New Deal."
I can't think of any other Pope, in the entire history of the Church, before or after John XXIII, who believed (or believes) the only thing Jesus really said, time and again, in every way possible: "Love they neighbor." Nothing to do with dogma, or power, or inquisitions, or judging people, or consigning people to hell, or accumulating property and wealth, or any of the accoutrements of royalty, or any of the abominable fetishes that the upper clergy indulges in. Nothing to do with hating women. Certainly nothing to do with hierarchies of people, with setting yourself above others. Very, very simple message: Love thy neighbor. Be kind to her. Even if she does you harm. THAT'S IT!
I think Pope John XXIII really did. But what a rarety! Even a mindbogglingly corrupt institution like the Roman Catholic Church can produce a gem (given a couple of thousand years).
Siwsan
(26,177 posts)His mysterious death made me wonder if that wasn't why he died.
ananda
(28,783 posts)nt
SemperEadem
(8,053 posts)they're so obvious.
cliffordu
(30,994 posts)white_wolf
(6,238 posts)I mean Paul didn't seem to like him too much, and I figure anyone who is disliked by Paul must have at least one decent quality.
hedgehog
(36,286 posts)Initech
(99,915 posts)And has actively been involved in covering it up and making it worse in the process.
A couple weeks ago he basically issued a statement declaring a holy war on gay marriage.
That's just two examples I can think of.
secondwind
(16,903 posts)when he stood on the balcony, with his hands held together above his head like Mohammad Ali?
Or was it when he threw his long-time aide of over 20 years, who worked tirelessly to get him elected Pope, to the curb, and replaced him with a blonde 20-something?
Or maybe it's just the red $500 Gucci shoes... take your pick.
kickysnana
(3,908 posts)He held a post under the previous Pope that by law he could not be Pope so he was not tempted to retire the Pope early. I also read that he was a bit of surprise as there were two others who were in line and dropped out suddenly.
Once a Nazi youth....
harmonicon
(12,008 posts)I have no love for the pope, but neither do I like broad-brush slurs. An awful lot of kids in Germany at the time were in the Hitler Youth - it was like being in the Boy Scouts or something. More generally, I don't know that we should make judgements about adults based on clubs they were in as children.
Kablooie
(18,571 posts)dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)malaise
(267,823 posts)I have long maintained that the Catholic church is the oldest multinational corporation on the planet
AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)The Vatican is a sovereign city-state.
If anyone knows of even a single instance in which a pedephile has been arrested by the authorities within the Vatican, they can undoubtedly post that.
The absence of such arrests either means that the authorities have looked the other way or there have never been any pedephiles in the Vatican.
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)Seriously. Yikes.
Looks like that Exorcist kid.
Voice for Peace
(13,141 posts)seriously
Occulus
(20,599 posts)Seriously. Go look at a pic of the emperor from Star Wars.
It's downright creepy.
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)kenny blankenship
(15,689 posts)the lack of visible eyebrows is a plus - almost an unfair advantage you might say.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)involved. What are they trying to get into position for the selection of the next Pope as soon as this one dies?
marmar
(76,985 posts)nt