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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAn Exhaustive Primer on the Amy Schumer Scandal
(Yes, She's Probably Guilty of Plagiarism)
The Verdict
Before we get too deep into the Amy Schumer plagiarism scandaland it is a full-fledged scandal at this point, by comedy standardsI want to make my perspective clear. First, Im an Amy Schumer fan. Second, after considering the evidence outlined below, along with Schumers response, I had one immediate reaction and one secondary reaction to the question of whether or not shes a plagiarist.
The immediate reaction: Absolutely.
The secondary reaction: Probably.
The first reaction is easy to explain, and came about after simply watching the bits she allegedly stole. Theres no escaping the crystal-clear truth herethe original material and Schumers copy are almost exactly the same. The only reasonable conclusion is that shes guilty. Period. Denials and obfuscation are useless against the very plain evidence of outright joke theft, and anyone who disputes it is being intellectually dishonest.
So why did that absolutely change to probably? Because theres a concept called subconscious plagiarism that, in Schumers case, would entail hearing another comedians joke, forgetting it over time, and then writing it later as though she had conceived it on her own. All in all, this version of stealing is more innocent and forgivable than standard plagiarism.
But while a reasonable person might buy that explanation for an isolated incident, or even two, it seems hopelessly far-fetched when we consider Schumers pattern of repeat offenses. Nevertheless, its impossible to disprovewe cant be inside her headand thats why Im qualifying the initial absolute judgment.
http://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2016/01/an-exhaustive-primer-on-the-amy-schumer-scandal-ye.html
For those of you who didn't know there was an Amy Schumer scandal -- apparently there's an Amy Schumer scandal.
It's a damned shame if true because comics work very hard in a very tough business and to have someone succeed on your work at your expense is intolerable.

Mike Nelson
(9,687 posts)...some big names have survived, though. Biden, Doris Kerns Goodwin, Reagan, the older guy on "Morning Joe" and Milton Berle.
SecularMotion
(7,981 posts)Schumer a second cousin to New York Sen. Chuck Schumer shared hugs with several people affected by gun violence during the event inside the East Room of the White House.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/amy-schumer-hears-obama-announce-gun-control-measures-article-1.2486283
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)Dr. Strange
(25,861 posts)She may have stolen that political position from someone else.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)Voice for Peace
(13,141 posts)George harrison's song?
And after he had to pay up, he wrote a new somg called "I hope I wrote this song"
Javaman
(62,089 posts)sounds messy.
Voice for Peace
(13,141 posts)I am typing on a tiny teeny keyboard.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)karynnj
(59,336 posts)This source has some audio of the two - showing the similarity. http://entertainment.time.com/2012/11/08/you-didnt-write-that-a-brief-guide-to-alleged-pop-plagiarism/slide/george-harrison-my-sweet-lord/
I also think this was the only instance in Harrison's long list of songs was labeled as copying.
joshcryer
(62,242 posts)Only thing disappointing is it means yet again talent is manufactured. They just brainstorm good stuff, copy test it, and if it gets good reviews, they send it out. Originality falls to the wayside to whatever can get past the reviewers. It's sad. And one reason that Dave Chappelle stopped.
But you can't fault Amy for cashing in. If it's not original talent (which sadly it's seeming not to be), she'll only last so long.
FrodosPet
(5,169 posts)Paging Louis CK... George Carlin (RIP) would like his routine back.
And let's not bring up the comedic larcenies of the late, great Robin Williams (RIP) while we are busy trashing Amy Schumer.
trof
(54,241 posts)Volaris
(10,222 posts)Louis CK has stated publicly that carlins template is what he adopted as a format for forcing good ideas to the fore..If you're always in need of more, you're always looking/thinking/rewriting...like it forces you to look in new and different places for material.
If it wasnt the only thing that got adopted, that wouldn't surprise me..His routine does remind me of the best kinds of carlins pacing and rhythms..I don't think that's a bad thing tho
Hell Hath No Fury
(16,327 posts)Back in the 80s Robin Williams was notorious for it at the SF comedy club scene, which was huge at the time. The local comics would change their routines when they saw him watching from the back of the club because their best bits would end up in his stand-up shows..