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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAmmo and Ryan Bundy want their Second Amendment rights recognized in jail
oops, did I misspell "Ammon Bundy"?
from TPM
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/bundys-want-better-jail-conditions
[font size="3"]Shocker: Bundy Bros Discover That Jail Inmates Have Fewer Freedoms[/font]
[font size="1"]By LAUREN FOX - MAY 25, 2016, 10:36 AM[/font]
Ammon and Ryan Bundy want their Constitutional Rights including the Second Amendment to be recognized in jail and are considering suing the Multnomah County Sheriffs Office to get them, according to a report from Oregon Public Broadcasting.
In documents filed Tuesday, the Bundys argued their constitutional rights are being infringed upon because they are not free to assemble nor are they free to practice their Mormon religion.
The Bundy brothers alleged that they have little access to their legal teams, "insufficient accommodations for religious practice," and are "being denied access to materials and resources reasonably required to defend their respective cases."
"Despite being presumed innocent, these defendants are treated as harshly and the same as convicted felons with whom they are commingled and housed," they alleged.
The Bundy brothers also claimed that their rights to have confidential conversations with their lawyers have been infringed upon because when they do have access to telephones, their calls are monitored in jail. Ammon Bundy also alleged that at least in one instance documents related to his trial strategy were confiscated.
Not allowed to assemble? What do you call yard time every day?
I imagine it sucks to be caught stealing and instigating a revolt against the federal government. Fucking pampered babies.
muntrv
(14,505 posts)Bucky
(53,795 posts)Due process of law applies to Dumbass-Americans too.
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)They're in jail.
Prison is for people convicted of a crime.
Of course I don't think these idiots should have guns in jail, but I'd be interested to know the particulars of how the thirteenth might apply to those suspected, but not convicted, of a crime.
jmg257
(11,996 posts)WolverineDG
(22,298 posts)they got told to pound sand.
jmg257
(11,996 posts)RogueTrooper
(4,665 posts)are sending their money to their new mancrush Donald "SmallHands" Trump. And the Koch brothers are sending all their money to the Libertarian candidate.
meow2u3
(24,743 posts)Now that's an appropriate typo!
Bad Dog
(2,025 posts)So presumably he'd exhausted all legal options already.
Bucky
(53,795 posts)and their Illuminati puppetmasters
Bad Dog
(2,025 posts)It all used to be so simple.
COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)part in the operation.
Iggo
(47,487 posts)" 'Despite being presumed innocent, these defendants are treated as harshly and the same as convicted felons with whom they are commingled and housed,' they alleged."
You are presumed innocent in a court of law.
When you're in jail, you're just in fucking jail, morons.
Mendocino
(7,430 posts)It would be Cryan and Ammo. Don't forget Daddy Klavern.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Stage an armed takeover of federal lands, threaten a few federal employees, trash an agency office, damage protected wildlife habitat, desecrate a few artifacts, and literally shit on the United States, and you're treated like a common criminal! Maybe you can have your dad explain to us what he knows about the Negro again, Ammon? That should clear things up.
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)underpants
(182,274 posts)sorefeet
(1,241 posts)because I think they are going to be there for a long, long time. Ask the Freemen from Montana how it all worked out for them.
Jeffersons Ghost
(15,235 posts)jmowreader
(50,451 posts)"This court is cognizant of the fact Cannabis is legal to purchase, possess and consume in the State of Oregon. But dude, if you think we're going to give someone we put in jail a fucking gun, you really need to stop smoking that shit."
quaker bill
(8,223 posts)being in jail kinda sucks like that.
madokie
(51,076 posts)would be my advice to the authorities
Orrex
(63,084 posts)Instead of complaining about being prisoners, they should pretend that they've taken control of this fortified government building.
Chan790
(20,176 posts)It sounds like a bad 1980's action film, something that would have been directed by John Milius about the zen anarchism of noble nitwits opposing government and incarceration as things that should inflicted on cattle and not men.
(I don't expect the brilliance of this post to be fully recognized without this disclaimer...much of it is actual Milius tropes about his worldview and politics, along with the themes of his films. One almost wonders if he's engaged in self-parody.)
Orrex
(63,084 posts)Let's just wait them out for 10-20 years.
Lee-Lee
(6,324 posts)It isn't summer camp..
yellowcanine
(35,692 posts)Mendocino
(7,430 posts)I suppose they think they should be given the jail keys so they could just come and go as they please like Otis.
mercuryblues
(14,491 posts)want in one hand and shit in the other, but neither hand is ever going to legally hold a gun again.
libodem
(19,288 posts)Twin sons of Satan.
ladyVet
(1,587 posts)Not.