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Bucky

(53,795 posts)
Wed May 25, 2016, 12:08 PM May 2016

Ammo and Ryan Bundy want their Second Amendment rights recognized in jail

oops, did I misspell "Ammon Bundy"?

from TPM
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/bundys-want-better-jail-conditions

[font size="3"]Shocker: Bundy Bros Discover That Jail Inmates Have Fewer Freedoms[/font]

[font size="1"]By LAUREN FOX - MAY 25, 2016, 10:36 AM[/font]

Ammon and Ryan Bundy want their Constitutional Rights –including the Second Amendment– to be recognized in jail and are considering suing the Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office to get them, according to a report from Oregon Public Broadcasting.

In documents filed Tuesday, the Bundys argued their constitutional rights are being infringed upon because they are not free to assemble nor are they free to practice their Mormon religion.

The Bundy brothers alleged that they have little access to their legal teams, "insufficient accommodations for religious practice," and are "being denied access to materials and resources reasonably required to defend their respective cases."

"Despite being presumed innocent, these defendants are treated as harshly and the same as convicted felons with whom they are commingled and housed," they alleged.

The Bundy brothers also claimed that their rights to have confidential conversations with their lawyers have been infringed upon because when they do have access to telephones, their calls are monitored in jail. Ammon Bundy also alleged that at least in one instance documents related to his trial strategy were confiscated.


Not allowed to assemble? What do you call yard time every day?

I imagine it sucks to be caught stealing and instigating a revolt against the federal government. Fucking pampered babies.
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Ammo and Ryan Bundy want their Second Amendment rights recognized in jail (Original Post) Bucky May 2016 OP
13th Amendment practically says you're a slave in prison. muntrv May 2016 #1
Yeah, I think the 7th amendments is a little more relevant in this situation Bucky May 2016 #2
They're not in prison. Act_of_Reparation May 2016 #28
That lawsuiut should go well - hope they have deep pockets. jmg257 May 2016 #3
They tried to get the Kochs to send them money WolverineDG May 2016 #7
Perfect! LOL! Dumb-asses nt jmg257 May 2016 #9
Sadly, for them all the racist crazies RogueTrooper May 2016 #23
Ammo Bundy--ROFLMAO!!! meow2u3 May 2016 #4
The so called brains of the operation, LaVoy Finicum, was shot by the police. Bad Dog May 2016 #5
You mean martyred by Blue Helmets for the Trilateral Commission Bucky May 2016 #8
I don't know what I mean anymore. Bad Dog May 2016 #14
Exactly. Don't forget about the Bilderberg Group's COLGATE4 May 2016 #26
This is always my favorite part. And there's at least one every time there's a new busload. Iggo May 2016 #6
You did misspell, Mendocino May 2016 #10
Are they suing to be allowed to bare arms in jail? What about snacks and lube? L. Coyote May 2016 #11
Shocking! gratuitous May 2016 #12
Talk about special snowflakes who want a safe space. Brickbat May 2016 #13
Who knew jail would be hard? underpants May 2016 #15
They better just get used to it sorefeet May 2016 #17
They would not be "pampered" if they were Muslim terrorist, instead of Right-Wing Terrorists Jeffersons Ghost May 2016 #16
I would LOVE to write the court's response to the Bundys' suit jmowreader May 2016 #18
While I have no personal experience, from what I have heard quaker bill May 2016 #19
Toss 'm on back in that jail cell a little further madokie May 2016 #20
They're looking at it all wrong. Orrex May 2016 #21
Standoff 2: The Prison Occupation. Chan790 May 2016 #22
I like it! Orrex May 2016 #24
News flash dumbass- prison kinda sucks Lee-Lee May 2016 #25
Here is my response to you, Ammon Bundy..... yellowcanine May 2016 #27
Portland isn't Mayberry Mendocino May 2016 #29
they can mercuryblues May 2016 #30
Ammo and Aryan libodem May 2016 #31
Couldn't they make bail? Poor babies. I know I'm broken up about this. ladyVet May 2016 #32

Bucky

(53,795 posts)
2. Yeah, I think the 7th amendments is a little more relevant in this situation
Wed May 25, 2016, 12:13 PM
May 2016

Due process of law applies to Dumbass-Americans too.

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
28. They're not in prison.
Thu May 26, 2016, 09:19 AM
May 2016

They're in jail.

Prison is for people convicted of a crime.

Of course I don't think these idiots should have guns in jail, but I'd be interested to know the particulars of how the thirteenth might apply to those suspected, but not convicted, of a crime.

RogueTrooper

(4,665 posts)
23. Sadly, for them all the racist crazies
Thu May 26, 2016, 07:49 AM
May 2016

are sending their money to their new mancrush Donald "SmallHands" Trump. And the Koch brothers are sending all their money to the Libertarian candidate.

Bad Dog

(2,025 posts)
5. The so called brains of the operation, LaVoy Finicum, was shot by the police.
Wed May 25, 2016, 12:19 PM
May 2016

So presumably he'd exhausted all legal options already.

Bucky

(53,795 posts)
8. You mean martyred by Blue Helmets for the Trilateral Commission
Wed May 25, 2016, 12:22 PM
May 2016

and their Illuminati puppetmasters

Iggo

(47,487 posts)
6. This is always my favorite part. And there's at least one every time there's a new busload.
Wed May 25, 2016, 12:21 PM
May 2016

" 'Despite being presumed innocent, these defendants are treated as harshly and the same as convicted felons with whom they are commingled and housed,' they alleged."

You are presumed innocent in a court of law.

When you're in jail, you're just in fucking jail, morons.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
12. Shocking!
Wed May 25, 2016, 12:29 PM
May 2016

Stage an armed takeover of federal lands, threaten a few federal employees, trash an agency office, damage protected wildlife habitat, desecrate a few artifacts, and literally shit on the United States, and you're treated like a common criminal! Maybe you can have your dad explain to us what he knows about the Negro again, Ammon? That should clear things up.

sorefeet

(1,241 posts)
17. They better just get used to it
Wed May 25, 2016, 03:21 PM
May 2016

because I think they are going to be there for a long, long time. Ask the Freemen from Montana how it all worked out for them.

jmowreader

(50,451 posts)
18. I would LOVE to write the court's response to the Bundys' suit
Thu May 26, 2016, 03:22 AM
May 2016

"This court is cognizant of the fact Cannabis is legal to purchase, possess and consume in the State of Oregon. But dude, if you think we're going to give someone we put in jail a fucking gun, you really need to stop smoking that shit."

Orrex

(63,084 posts)
21. They're looking at it all wrong.
Thu May 26, 2016, 07:20 AM
May 2016

Instead of complaining about being prisoners, they should pretend that they've taken control of this fortified government building.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
22. Standoff 2: The Prison Occupation.
Thu May 26, 2016, 07:45 AM
May 2016

It sounds like a bad 1980's action film, something that would have been directed by John Milius about the zen anarchism of noble nitwits opposing government and incarceration as things that should inflicted on cattle and not men.

(I don't expect the brilliance of this post to be fully recognized without this disclaimer...much of it is actual Milius tropes about his worldview and politics, along with the themes of his films. One almost wonders if he's engaged in self-parody.)

Mendocino

(7,430 posts)
29. Portland isn't Mayberry
Thu May 26, 2016, 09:45 AM
May 2016

I suppose they think they should be given the jail keys so they could just come and go as they please like Otis.

mercuryblues

(14,491 posts)
30. they can
Thu May 26, 2016, 09:45 AM
May 2016

want in one hand and shit in the other, but neither hand is ever going to legally hold a gun again.

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