Trump is lying about his Wharton School degree.

[SunSeeker]

Trump did not go to Wharton’s prestigious MBA program. Rather, he received an undergraduate degree offered by Wharton to University of Pennsylvania students. And Trump didn’t attend Wharton for a full four years. Instead, he transferred there after spending his first two undergraduate years at Fordham, the Jesuit university in the Bronx.

Gwenda Blair’s book on the Trump family reports that he gained admission as a transfer student only because of “an interview with a friendly Wharton admissions officer who was one of Freddy’s old high school classmates.” (Freddy is Donald’s older brother.) Trump was also the son of one of the wealthiest New York businessmen of the era, the developer Fred Trump. That certainly couldn’t have hurt his admission chances.

Writing in the New York Times magazine in 1984, William Geist reported that “the commencement program from 1968 does not list him as graduating with honors of any kind,” even though “just about every profile ever written about Mr. Trump states that he graduated first in his class at Wharton in 1968.”

http://www.salon.com/2011/05/03/donald_trump_wharton/

[PJMcK]

1. Of course, he's lying

As I've said before, if Donald Trump tells you today is Saturday, check your calendar.

Colleges and universities cannot release students' records so Mr. Trump knows that there is no one who can contradict his claim to have been first in his class.

He lies about everything and to everyone.

Donald Trump is an idiot.

[SunSeeker]

4. Yep, Melania is not the only one making shit up about their education. nt.

[Purrfessor]

24. Funny you should mention days of the week...

Latest Trump fact check: today is Thursday, not Friday.

“Trump: Is there any place better to be on a Friday night in Florida than at a Trump rally?” an Orlando Sentinel reporter tweeted. “People in crowd shout, ‘It's Thursday.’”

Undeterred by the reality check from his own supporters, Trump messed up again later in the speech.

“Trump: It’s Friday night, we’re having fun,” a reporter from The New York Times tweeted. “Crowd shouts: ‘It’s Thursday!’ Trump seems to think they’re just cheering. Gives thumbs up.”

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/latest-trump-fact-check-today-thursday-not-friday-article-1.2747896

[SunSeeker]

25. LOL

[klook]

36. We-wease Wodewick!

Somehow I'm reminded of this:

[NurseJackie]

41. Why do they titter so?

[jimmil]

89. Has to be my favorite movie of all time! N/T

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

2. I'm shocked.

[NightWatcher]

3. I went to Harvard

had a sandwich, and toured some more areas around Boston.

I've got to update my resume, leaving out everything after "I went to Harvard".

[Warpy]

5. You didn't use the toilet?

Harvard toilets were uncommonly clean. If I got caught short shopping in Harvard Square, that's always where I went.

So yes, I also "went" to Harvard.

[keithbvadu2]

18. Did you leave a mark? Another bullet for the resume.

[pinboy3niner]

37. Be sure to mention that you always aimed high

[awoke_in_2003]

40. Oooh...

then you can say you were in the Air Force ROTC at Harvard.

[jcgoldie]

75. Pretty sure that...

Educational shortcomings are not going to hamper him much with his base...

[yeoman6987]

6. Lol. Me too. I even got a Harvard T shirt

I had no idea that was an application enhancer. Lol.

[SunSeeker]

7. I see you went to the Trump school of resume writing.

[MichiganVote]

19. Yeah I went there too. Guess I better get to work.

[SCantiGOP]

22. I actually know a guy

Whose LinkedIn account lists Harvard at the end if his education section.
Someone who works with him said he attended a 3-day Management Course there a few years back. Everyone knows that now and it just makes him look foolish.

[MichiganVote]

26. Fraudsters abound.

[whistler162]

71. Well... I weas at the premiere of the first

Harry Potter movie! Okay, I walked by the theater in London just before it started and had no idea what I was looking at until later..

[Odin2005]

93. Did you pahk the cah in Hahvahd Yahd?

[Wellstone ruled]

8. Thanks for the post.

This story was floating around years ago,and the Con Man went totally nuts and the interviewer a new one. Media has not touched this since.

[Wounded Bear]

9. Surprise, surprise

[Croney]

10. Wouldn't it be sweet if the person who really finished first in that class came forward.

[groundloop]

15. He's either deceased or has been bought.

But damn wouldn't it be sweet to have some way to prove tRump has been lying all these years.

[Thor_MN]

43. If Trump transferred in, it would not be inaccurate to say he was one of the last in his class...

maybe even the last in(to) his class.

[TexasBushwhacker]

45. McCain was almost dead last at the Naval Academy n/t

[former9thward]

79. Dead last at a service academy is far above first at most schools.

[Chakab]

11. This explains why he had such a bug up his ass about Obama going Columbia and Harvard.

No way that a black guy could get into the Ivy League on his own steam when Trump couldn't do it himself.

[SunSeeker]

20. Yep, I remember that. He suggested that Obama only got in because he was black.

Turns out Trump only got into the University of Pennsylvania because of his brother Freddy. And he never got into the actual Wharton graduate school of business, despite implying he not only graduated from there but graduated 1st in his class.

[QED]

73. University of Penn is Ivy League

Penn State is the public university.

I don't doubt that someone pulled strings to help him transfer to U Penn.

[Chakab]

74. I'm well aware at Penn is an Ivy League school. My point was that Obama got to

the Ivy League on his own while Trump needed to exploit family connections. That's what gets under Trump's skin.

[Tarheel_Dem]

12. "Show us your transcript" Donald. I remember him questioning Obama's Harvard transcript.

[SunSeeker]

27. Donald was projecting.

He assumes everyone is as scummy as he is.

[Tarheel_Dem]

60. I suspect you're right. He can't imagine that a black man actually "earned" a degree at Harvard. nt

[George II]

13. Lyin' Donald. Crooked Donald.

[paleotn]

14. Seems his entire life is a lie. n/t

[Warren DeMontague]

16. Right, he's got an undergrad degree from Penn.

Not a Wharton MBA by any stretch.

[SunSeeker]

23. And he only got into Penn thanks to his brother Freddy pulling some strings. nt

[tclambert]

17. Are you suggesting Trump exaggerated his accomplishments?

Next thing you know, you'll accuse him of outright dishonesty.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

21. I assumed as much!

All that's needed is to hear him talk for a few minutes.

[dflprincess]

28. Fordham?

I thought the Jesuits had higher standards.

[Blue Idaho]

29. Well in all fairness

He didn't graduate from Fordham...

[Person 2713]

38. I was just thinking went to a Jesuit school ?

[HereSince1628]

46. Scott Walker also went to a Jesuit university, and didn't finish...

I think we may be on to a trend among GOP intellectuals.

[SeattleVet]

54. Nope - the Jesuits are a good match for Trump:

A man has three sons who entered three different religious orders: the oldest became a Dominican, the second a Franciscan, and the youngest a Jesuit.

On his deathbed, the father tells his sons, "I know you all have vows of poverty, but as a sign of your love for me, I want each of you to place one thousand dollars into my casket to be buried with me."

On the day of the funeral, the Dominican son steps up, places $1000 in the casket, and says, "This seems like a waste of money, since you can't take it with you, Dad. But with the special permission of my superiors, I'm doing as you requested, as a sign of my love."

Next, the Franciscan son approaches the casket and says, "You know I love you, Dad, but the needs of the poor are so great, I just can't let $1000 be buried with you. I hope you understand, now that you are in heaven. Please forgive me."

Finally, the Jesuit son comes forward and says to his brother, "Don't worry, Frank. I'll pay your share." Then he reaches into the casket, takes the cash left by his eldest brother, and puts in a check for $3000.

[scscholar]

55. They're religious so how could they have standards on education?

We've hired quite a few people from Seattle University, which is a Jesuit university, and not a single one worked out. They just weren't will to follow company procedures.

[classykaren]

64. Two Corinthians ?

[bucolic_frolic]

30. "first in his class"

Yes! First in HIS class. His own class. It's all about the self.

[Maeve]

68. True, no one is in his class. Most won't stoop that low. eom

[turbinetree]

31. Usually when you embellish a degree or anything for that matter, the University says something to

protect the integrity of the name------------------Hey Wharton can you release his grades, since you are a public institution, this will settle when he went, since the media believed this fraud as number 1 in 1968 at Wharton.

[TexasBushwhacker]

34. They are private and ivy league

Penn State is the public university.

I know that some Wharton students have come out and said that he doesn't represent THEM, it's unlikely that the university itself is going to come out and say he's lying. They don't want to get sued.

I read up on it and the undergraduate program is highly ranked also, but it's certainly not the same as getting an MBA there.

[turbinetree]

39. Thanks for the information

I just would like to see his grades, really put him in a bind, the public is getting information about this hypocrite, it is amazing.

I am reading a book right now by David Cay Johnston , The Making of Trump, and I really hope that if he shows up for a debate, someone should ask him some questions and then when he tries to meanly mouth out of, ask him a follow-up questions----his dealing are just as shady as his degree


Honk-----------------for "Our Revolution"

[TexasBushwhacker]

42. I dug a little deeper

Of course, money wise could go anywhere, but he still had to get in. Being ivy league, University of Pennsylvania is still tough to get in, but not as tough as the other ivies. Its acceptance rate is 9.4%, whereas Harvard's is around 5%. But he must not have been able to get into Penn as a freshman, so he went to Fordham with an acceptance rate of over 40%.

[turbinetree]

48. I have family members that went to Penn and it was hard---------------they looked at there grades

and the other qualifiers, they graduated, but still, I think he was and is still a slacker.

Thanks for the info


Honk-----------------for "Our Revolution"

[SunSeeker]

49. Trump got in thanks to his brother Freddy.

Gwenda Blair’s book on the Trump family reports that he gained admission as a transfer student only because of “an interview with a friendly Wharton admissions officer who was one of Freddy’s old high school classmates.” (Freddy is Donald’s older brother.) Trump was also the son of one of the wealthiest New York businessmen of the era, the developer Fred Trump. That certainly couldn’t have hurt his admission chances.

http://www.salon.com/2011/05/03/donald_trump_wharton/

[EleanorR]

58. acceptance rate wasn't 9.4% when trump applied

I wonder what the acceptance rate actually was when he applied?

https://www.ivycoach.com/ivy-league-statistics-by-college/

[TexasBushwhacker]

59. I didn't realize it varied so much year to year n/t

[dawn frenzy adams]

32. Okay Cheeto Jesus!

Let's see your college transcripts?

[TexasBushwhacker]

43. Now that Obama is a lame duck

I kind of wish he'd release his transcripts so he could make Trump look like that much more of a fool.

[Gothmog]

33. Trump lies about everything

This does not surprise me

[mwooldri]

47. TL;DR: "Trump is lying" eom

[Squinch]

50. He has an older brother? I never heard that before. Wonder what that story is.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

51. I think that's the brother who didn't follow the father's teachings...

... about being a total jackass to get ahead in life financially.

I think he turned to alcohol eventually.

[SunSeeker]

52. He had an older brother.

Freddy drank himself to death.

[Squinch]

53. Oh, Jeez. Thanks for the info.

[Hekate]

56. That man is a cockroach. Just when you think he can go no lower...

...he digs the hole deeper.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

57. He got kicked out of private school for bad behaivor at 13 (punching his music teacher)...

His parents then did the typical thing to a rich spoiled brat, they sent him to military academy.

[SheriffBob]

65. trump claims

that his military schooling made him smarter than most military career soldiers.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

77. Uh huh....

[amandabeech]

81. Trump claims that he doesn't drink.

Considering his brother, maybe that's one thing that he isn't fibbing about.

[SunSeeker]

85. Trump's love of self prevents him from risking a fate like Freddy's.

Watching Freddy drink himself to death must not have been pretty.

[amandabeech]

88. My mother's younger brother was an alcoholic, and died in an alcohol-related accident.

Thank heavens he didn't take anyone else with him.

My Mom didn't drink.

It is most assuredly not pretty.

[Raine]

61. I'd like to see his attendances records, he seems so poorly educated

and unknowledgeable I doubt he was in his classes very often.

[ailsagirl]

62. That's how it always felt to me-- he just doesn't seem educated

If he has the attention span of a two-year-old, along with problems staying on track and absorbing information, how did he ever graduate?

Plus, he doesn't talk good

[pinboy3niner]

63. LEAST of his problems and not the one that will sink him

He won't go down on this piddly crap, I guarantee it.

He's already tanking largely because of the Khans and his continuing stupid statements since then. Hoist on his own petard.

[SunSeeker]

86. This may not sink him, but it is not "piddly crap."

It would be disqualifying for any other candidate. Nonetheless you are correct that there are SO many other contenders for what will take him down.

[Rose Siding]

67. Show us the transcripts, Don

[mrmpa]

69. I wrote this a few weeks ago.........

. You know when I see someone listing him/her self as a graduate of the...........


Wharton School of Business, my immediate thought is that they are an MBA. If a person holds a BS or BA it is usually from the University of Pennsylvania.

It seems he is misleading the public, OMG I can't believe he would do this.

[SunSeeker]

78. Me too. Because "Wharton School" implies the MBA program.

And Trump knows that. Plus he was never "top of his class" in any school he ever attended.

[lonestarnot]

70. I've never believe him anyway. He couldn't work that hard. He would have crumble into dry orange

bile.

[SummerSnow]

76. Want to see the transcripts .lol

[uppityperson]

84. +1, I agree. He is repulsive, revolting, disgusting, abhorrent, objectionable, vile, foul and nasty

How did you find DU in the beginning? I am very curious.

[SunSeeker]

87. Welcome to DU, GeraldRonLA3!

[amandabeech]

82. "Wharton" is the name of the University of Pennsylvania's business school.

They're one in the same, folks.

[SunSeeker]

83. Everyone assumes when you say Wharton School you mean the famously prestigious MBA program.

Otherwise you'd just say Penn if referring to an undergrad degree--which is all he has. Regardless, he was definitely not "top of his class" or even an honors student at ANY school he attended. He flat out lied. And then there is the hypocrisy of him bashing affirmative action when he benefited from the most common form of affirmative action: that for the children of the rich and powerful. His big brother Freddy relied on his connections to get his marginal student of a brother a transfer into Penn.

BTW, the phrase is "one and the same," not "one in the same."

[amandabeech]

92. Trump was in the BBA program, not the MBA program. Here's the directions to the BBA web page.

Here's the Wharton website.

https://www.wharton.upenn.edu/

Go there. About 1/3 of the way from the top on the right side is the link to the bachelor's program.

Read all about it.

I stand corrected on my usage. It slips when I see people posting incorrect information.

[Jopin Klobe]

90. Just to give you a shortened, one-size-fits-all tRump headline ...

... "Trump is Lying" ...

... works for absolutely every occasion ...

[William769]

91. kick & recommended.