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Mon Nov 28, 2016, 10:47 AM

Class is class - Jimmy Carter remembers Fidel Castro fondly

http://politics.blog.ajc.com/2016/11/26/jimmy-carter-remembers-fidel-castro-fondly/
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Former President Jimmy Carter had kind words for Cuban dictator Fidel Castro, who died Friday, saying in a statement he and his wife “remember fondly our visits with him in Cuba and his love of his country.”

Castro, who was 90, was long a scourge of the U.S. who brought the Cold War to America’s doorstep. But he and Carter, a Georgia native, had warmer relations.

Carter took a step to normalize relations between the two nations during his presidency, and the two shared several visits, including a 2011 journey where Castro called Carter a “friend.”

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I loved Fidel and love Jimmy Carter

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Reply Class is class - Jimmy Carter remembers Fidel Castro fondly (Original post)
malaise Nov 2016 OP
malaise Nov 2016 #1
heaven05 Nov 2016 #2
malaise Nov 2016 #3
oberliner Nov 2016 #4
tenderfoot Nov 2016 #5
oberliner Nov 2016 #8
LittleBlue Nov 2016 #15
Judi Lynn Nov 2016 #18
cwydro Nov 2016 #23
ericson00 Nov 2016 #6
malaise Nov 2016 #9
ericson00 Nov 2016 #12
malaise Nov 2016 #13
ericson00 Nov 2016 #14
ronnie624 Nov 2016 #16
ericson00 Nov 2016 #17
rug Nov 2016 #7
malaise Nov 2016 #10
AngryAmish Nov 2016 #11
Judi Lynn Nov 2016 #19
burrowowl Nov 2016 #21
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AngryAmish Nov 2016 #22
brooklynite Nov 2016 #20

Response to malaise (Original post)

Mon Nov 28, 2016, 10:58 AM

1. Castro's legacy and the envy of many nations: social care in Cuba

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/nov/27/castros-legacy-and-the-envy-of-many-nations-social-care-in-cuba
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To his critics, the late Fidel Castro was a totalitarian despot, an opponent of free speech and a man determined to preserve his hard-won revolution whatever the cost.

But to his defenders and admirers, he was a leader whose enlightened and practical approach to social care provided Cuba with enviable health and education systems.

Figures from the UN children’s agency, Unicef, show that Cuba’s youth literacy rate stands at 100%, as does its adult literacy rate. In Mexico, youth literacy is around 98.5%, while adult literacy is at 93.5%. In the Dominican Republic, meanwhile, youth literacy is at 98.1% for females aged 15-24, 96.1% for males of the same age, and adult literacy is at 90%.

Many of the educational gains were made in the early years of the revolution, not least during the 1961 literacy campaign that saw hundreds of thousands of Cubans, including schoolchildren, mobilising to educate their compatriots.

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Response to malaise (Reply #1)

Mon Nov 28, 2016, 12:20 PM

2. I agree

 

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Response to heaven05 (Reply #2)

Mon Nov 28, 2016, 08:24 PM

3. Bump

Don't you love the silence here

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Response to malaise (Reply #1)

Mon Nov 28, 2016, 08:26 PM

4. Dictators can accomplish a lot

 

When you can just shut down the opposition and send any dissenters to prison.

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Response to oberliner (Reply #4)

Mon Nov 28, 2016, 08:29 PM

5. We do that here too but because no one goes to prison, that makes it okay.

eom

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Response to tenderfoot (Reply #5)

Mon Nov 28, 2016, 08:30 PM

8. People marched up and down 5th Avenue protesting Donald Trump

 

That's the difference.

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Response to oberliner (Reply #4)

Mon Nov 28, 2016, 08:48 PM

15. Bingo. How is this any different than the idolization of Trump or Putin?

 

Okay, he made a good health care system from a very educated pool of people on the island. And it cost everyone in Cuba their democratic rights and human rights.

Many countries have good health care systems without giving up their rights. Castro was a tyrant, as the 1.5 million who fled the country can attest.

I just lost all respect for Carter.

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Response to LittleBlue (Reply #15)

Mon Nov 28, 2016, 10:57 PM

18. Some kinds never liked Jimmy Carter in the first place. They can't lose what they didn't have. n/t

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Response to LittleBlue (Reply #15)

Tue Nov 29, 2016, 10:58 AM

23. I have enormous respect for Carter.

He's a decent and honorable man who contributes more to this world in a week than most will do in a lifetime.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Mon Nov 28, 2016, 08:29 PM

6. I'm ashamed of Jimmy Carter being registered to the party I'm registered to.

 

no one who is labeled a Democrat should be supporting the most undemocratic and tyrannical regime in this hemisphere.

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Response to ericson00 (Reply #6)

Mon Nov 28, 2016, 08:34 PM

9. The most undemocratic and tyrannical regimes in our hemisphere were put in power

by US interests.

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Response to malaise (Reply #9)

Mon Nov 28, 2016, 08:36 PM

12. for the most part, they were better than the ones put in place by anti-US interests

 

and they didn't linger forever either.

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Response to ericson00 (Reply #12)

Mon Nov 28, 2016, 08:40 PM

13. It was not for your government to choose for others

I'm trying to process how folks claim to support democracy when it applies to their country but imperialists for others. That thinking partly explains why liberal democratic parties are in such trouble these days.

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Response to malaise (Reply #13)

Mon Nov 28, 2016, 08:45 PM

14. the world is always going to have wannabe superpowers. Better America than other past aspirants

 

like Russia (see the USSR's record), Germany, Japan, or even the British and French empires.

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Response to ericson00 (Reply #14)

Mon Nov 28, 2016, 09:03 PM

16. What about the USSR's record?

If you're going to sit here and try to re-write history, at least provide some citations.

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Response to ronnie624 (Reply #16)

Mon Nov 28, 2016, 09:04 PM

17. Great Purge, Holodomor, gulags, ...

 

the USSR's many colonies across Europe, it's brutal crushing of nationalist movements of Soviet Republics during and after the Bolshevik Revolution, ...

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Mon Nov 28, 2016, 08:29 PM

7. Carter never was a second rate red-baiter.

 

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Response to rug (Reply #7)

Mon Nov 28, 2016, 08:34 PM

10. That's why special interests still hate him

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Mon Nov 28, 2016, 08:35 PM

11. Castro's fifty year rule proved his commitment to pluralism and democracy.

 

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Response to AngryAmish (Reply #11)

Mon Nov 28, 2016, 11:03 PM

19. Did you ever go berserk over US puppet dictator Stroessner in Paraguay's 35 years ruling?

He was bumped out of office, in the end, but in his 35 years, he massacred indigenous people, genocide, he moved survivors into servitude, he gave have to the world's notorious Angel of Death from Auschwitz concentration camp, a man who tortured and terrorized Jewish prisoners, Dr. Josef Menegele.

He was ALWAYS A-OK with the US government, and our corporate media NEVER uttered a squeak of gossip about that monster, no propaganda flying out to the idiot class of US Americans to spread hatred and viciousness about him. Why is that?

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Response to Judi Lynn (Reply #19)

Tue Nov 29, 2016, 12:09 AM

21. Not to mention

200,000 to 250,000 Guatemalan Indigenous people massacred under Reagan-Bush by U$ backed dictator through Iran-Contra.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Reply #19)

Tue Nov 29, 2016, 10:32 AM

22. ?

 

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Mon Nov 28, 2016, 11:05 PM

20. How many people are posting anti-Trump comments on this website?

How many people were posting anti-Castro comments in Cuba?

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