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askyagerz

(776 posts)
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 11:42 PM Feb 2017

Recreational marijuana...

I moved from Illinois to Oregon last summer and for once in my adult life I didn't feel like a criminal. I will miss that feeling...
I wonder if enough repubs would bend to change it from a schedule 1 substance if we start pushing them on states rights? Would Trump be able to veto that?

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mountain grammy

(26,571 posts)
1. I'm in Colorado and legal
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 11:48 PM
Feb 2017

with a red card the last 10 years. If they bring back prohibition, I'm outta here. Canada, I guess. I'd rather go to Mexico, but think it's still illegal there.

 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
2. Trump has already threatened to enforce federal law in all states, regardless of state law.
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 11:49 PM
Feb 2017

He isn't gonna do shit that we want.

Canoe52

(2,944 posts)
3. Moved from Illinois to Washington 5 years ago
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 11:57 PM
Feb 2017

and voted in legal weed here!

Know exactly how you feel, I didn't go near marijuana for 32 years because of job, stigma in a conservative area, etc.

So nice to not worry about the joint I carry in my car or the bag of weed I get from friends who grow it in their garden.

askyagerz

(776 posts)
16. Have you heard of grows in Washinton getting hit?
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 05:05 AM
Feb 2017

Someone told me they heard of some raids that happened

 

HoneyBadger

(2,297 posts)
4. Legalizing accomplishes so much
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 11:59 PM
Feb 2017

Saves lives (DUI drops bigly)
Keeps people from getting addicted to nicotine
Keeps people from becoming criminals (especially people of color)
Allows law enforcement to focus on solving murders

Time to not only legalize weed, but to distribute it freely in order to help society to heal itself

bluedigger

(17,077 posts)
5. Scheduling is an administrative function more than a legislative one.
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 12:06 AM
Feb 2017

It's really up to the DEA to make any changes. They have to respond to petitions from "interested parties" but it's their call in the end.

askyagerz

(776 posts)
14. Surely we can create pressure
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 04:54 AM
Feb 2017

If enough people in congress tell the DEA to change the scheduling they should comply. If they start raiding grow operations and we start screaming about it they may have to do something because they seem to have their hands pretty full with us dang freedom hating progressives at the moment. How many more issues can they juggle? States rights and such a high public approval for legalization might make it pretty hard to ignore. We just gotta keep making noise

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
6. Didn't Illinois decriminalize marijuana, maybe last year?
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 12:48 AM
Feb 2017

Not sure, but I think they may have quietly done so.

askyagerz

(776 posts)
13. Yes but...
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 04:39 AM
Feb 2017

It's pretty pointless if no one can grow it again. Plus their medical is a joke. Instead of letting small farmers take care of patients they made it into big business where you need a $250,000 application fee

gopiscrap

(23,674 posts)
7. If you notice almost all of the states that legalized recreational pot
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 03:03 AM
Feb 2017

they all voted against trump. This is not about pot, but a move to punish blue states by taking away a taxing revenue source

marlakay

(11,370 posts)
9. Very true he just pulled money from
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 03:45 AM
Feb 2017

A huge train project that was going to start next month and now can't. He is pissed at CA.

askyagerz

(776 posts)
11. Yep. Definitely revenge
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 04:36 AM
Feb 2017

One more shot at making someone they don't like a criminal over their culture

marlakay

(11,370 posts)
8. I just read article that said
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 03:43 AM
Feb 2017

71% of all Americans want it to be legal. They said Trump will go down even further by changing his mind. On the campaign trail he said he would leave it up to the states.

My hubby didn't renew medical card after they legalized it here in CA. If T starts messing with it I will make him get another one.

I read another article about private prisons, i bet he wants to fill them up.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
12. A couple things. One, the feds cannot force ANY state to make it illegal at the state level.
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 04:37 AM
Feb 2017

So the best the feds can really hope for is to force the states to abandon the regulatory framework for commercial sales.

But... they may not want to do that. As is noted in this article, one of the rationales for the Cole Memo was the fear that pushing too hard against legal states might prompt them to remove cannabis entirely from their state law books- which would mean zero cannabis regulation or enforcement at all at the state level. It would be a weed free-for-all instead of the regulated system we have now.

http://www.thestranger.com/news/2016/12/21/24755256/one-way-to-protect-washington-states-legal-weed-market-from-trump-burn-it-to-the-ground

And there just aren't anything resembling the resources at the federal level to enforce drug laws on the ground in the states without local help.

The fact of the matter is, even if Sessions gets everything he wants, marijuana possession and use will still be de facto legal in legal states, they would just drive the commercial trade back onto the black market and the states would lose the tax revenue.

Which would suck, but the fact is, the weed genie isn't going back in the bottle.

Of course, the US Congress could fix this in 10 minutes if they would just grow a spine. There are plenty of Republicans who want the Feds to butt out of this as well.



Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
17. Here's another thing to consider- two words; Jury Nullification.
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 05:16 AM
Feb 2017

If they really wanted to go after the growers and dispensaries, they'd need to find juries out here willing to convict.

Good luck with that, especially once pot prohibition has the Trump stank once and for all all over it.

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