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Wed May 24, 2017, 07:17 PM

Looking through headlines here, CNN, TPM, Slate, etc - FUBAR level off the charts

I had lunch with my friends today and all three of us are reasonable students of history.

We all agreed there has never, ever been an unqualified presidential disaster like Trump. Closest would be some famous, failed, flawed crooked dictators of the past.

There is no way to get used to this level of corruption and ineptitude. No way.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #1)

Wed May 24, 2017, 07:20 PM

2. It is completely invalid - many of us here have known this since election night.

Do over is the only adequate solution - all others are poor bandaids that won't fix what is wrong.

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Response to NRaleighLiberal (Reply #2)

Wed May 24, 2017, 07:22 PM

3. Yup...no need for that pesky Constitution.

Let's change the rules whenever we want to...and let the Republicans do the same.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #3)

Wed May 24, 2017, 07:24 PM

6. you clearly don't want to acknowledge the point here, and you never have.

Of course we are in uncharted territory. Our constitution has no provision for this level of criminal activity.

So those of us who say do over are of course being aspirational. It is what SHOULD happen. And of course we also know it is something that under current conditions can't happen.

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Response to NRaleighLiberal (Reply #6)

Wed May 24, 2017, 07:34 PM

7. What am I not acknowledging?

Donald Trump is utterly unqualified to be President...and our Constitution doesn't allow for "do-overs".

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #7)

Wed May 24, 2017, 07:45 PM

10. Democracy is dead. The bad guys won.

And while you are correct, technically, you are also a person of means if memory serves.

Some will die because of this fraudulent election, they wont have the luxury you have.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #10)

Wed May 24, 2017, 07:46 PM

12. You can give up if you want; the rest of us will keep working on it.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #12)

Wed May 24, 2017, 07:47 PM

13. No no no, you dont get to say that

Look at the rest of my comment. (i added something after you commented)

Some of us dont have the luxury of giving up, we will be fighting for our lives.

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Response to NRaleighLiberal (Reply #6)

Wed May 24, 2017, 09:17 PM

14. The Republicans and the elite got the government they paid for.

It is too bad it will destroy them. We may have to live with it 2 more years, but they will have to live it down a lot longer.

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Response to NRaleighLiberal (Reply #2)

Wed May 24, 2017, 07:23 PM

4. I agree. New election this November.

But why not let's game it out:

Does Trump get to participate in the do over?

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Response to Cracklin Charlie (Reply #4)

Wed May 24, 2017, 07:45 PM

11. The appointment of Gorsuch ALONE will account for horrendous damage

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Response to NRaleighLiberal (Reply #2)

Wed May 24, 2017, 07:43 PM

8. I have said that but for a different reason, on the ground russian agents

working on election boards, at precincts, having lived here their whole lives, etc.

flipping votes, etc

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #1)

Wed May 24, 2017, 07:24 PM

5. It would be interesting to see if DU would go down for three days.




I would hope another election would receive the highest degree of srutiny on all levels.

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Response to NRaleighLiberal (Original post)

Wed May 24, 2017, 07:43 PM

9. The present administration is a fraud, elected due to fraud and a new election MUST take

place..

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