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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI can't believe I am saying this, but even W knew how to act around world leaders
I hate W with a passion - for yrs just the sight of his stupid smirking face induced a rage and uncontrollable twitching in my slapping hand.
Yes, he did a shit ton of stuff- but I honestly never actually worried that he would shove another foreign leader, slam our allies to their faces, or divulge security secrets to our adversaries.
I just can't get over what I am seeing - what an utter buffoon. My cat has better manners and he cleans his ass while we are eating dinner.
mucifer
(23,374 posts)Plus you know starting the war in Iraq for no decent reason was horrific.
He did for the most part know not to act like a bully in those trips.
nadine_mn
(3,702 posts)even though based on lies.There are legitimate arguments to be made on waging war, bombings, use of drones etc.
But his inability to have any impulse control is something I have not seen before.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,276 posts)I do recall one occasion when W shoved his way past Bill Clinton.
But I think he was at least self-controlled enough not to do that to a Prime Minister at a NATO meeting. And sometimes he seemed kind of drunk. I thought he was an embarrassing representative for the US -- but Trump is downright horrifying.
3catwoman3
(23,815 posts)...totally relate to that.
A cat cleans its ass. Trump IS an ass.
nadine_mn
(3,702 posts)Still classier than Trump
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The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,276 posts)But if he could do it, he probably would.
yortsed snacilbuper
(7,939 posts)mitch96
(13,817 posts)Arkansas Granny
(31,483 posts)This must be a record.
malaise
(267,811 posts)nadine_mn
(3,702 posts)but he was able to joke about it later (no angry tweets about how door are enemies of the American people) but not just flat out rude.
onethatcares
(16,133 posts)Comrade Trumpski in that situation.
His fucking head would explode.
malaise
(267,811 posts)with his head
onethatcares
(16,133 posts)opened a door too fast and wonked your forehead? I'd pay, over and over to watch don the con do that.
grape vines do think alike.
malaise
(267,811 posts)That sure would go viral
madaboutharry
(40,151 posts)Bush tried to give Chancellor Merkel a shoulder massage. But I never saw him push anyone out of the way and mug like Mussolini.
tblue37
(64,979 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,061 posts)While she was wearing it.
LakeArenal
(28,729 posts)No one wants to be in the same room as dump.. I imagined Merkel's thought bubble was something like: Who'd have thought we'd miss George's back rub.
onecaliberal
(32,484 posts)nadine_mn
(3,702 posts)That is the part that kills me - we are missing the decorum of W??!
onecaliberal
(32,484 posts)phleshdef
(11,936 posts)Trump is an insecure prick who is constantly feeling like he needs to prove himself and prove himself based on childish standards.
Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,482 posts)nadine_mn
(3,702 posts)Trumps pussy grabbing or ridiculous macho handshake.. at least W kept his hands above the waist and I really don't think it was an alpha male thing...just weird
Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,482 posts)nowhere else. Also let's not forget "free speech zones", being an utter assholes to any reporter who had the nads to question him, making it up as you go when it came to policy because he was a fucking dimwit who communicated in word salad, etc, etc. If the bar hadn't been lowered so much for Junior. There would be no Donny Tiny Hands in the White House.
I guess I'll give you that at least he called adversaries "evil" but not allies.
Beaverhausen
(24,467 posts)I will not join in the "I miss W" bandwagon. No way.
nadine_mn
(3,702 posts)I thought W was as bottom barrel as we could get...with his lies, war mongering, lack of intelligence, love of shiny objects and flight suits, and random acts of wtf in public.
So no, I'm not saying bring back W. What I am saying is that for the most part he knew how to act when around other people. I never heard reports of world leaders having to be told that he could only pay attention for 4 mins of speech at a time...that is just incredible. Like I have seen before, he isn't visiting so much as being babysat.
Beaverhausen
(24,467 posts)especially after Obama.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,276 posts)But I do note that his embarrassing public behavior, cringe-inducing as it often was, wasn't as industrial-strength embarrassing and potentially destructive as Dolt 45's.
cbdo2007
(9,213 posts)Look at all of us now going..."well W was an idiot and evil. But at least he's not Trump!"
Skittles
(152,964 posts)I despised W, but he was a puppet whose handlers kept the strings very tight
Vinca
(50,170 posts)pnwmom
(108,925 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,276 posts)a bit less bad. Kind of like coming down with Ebola and looking back with nostalgia at the time when you had salmonella.