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brooklynite

(94,333 posts)
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 10:59 AM Sep 2017

"Better to fail again trying to repeal the Affordable Care Act then not to try at all."

Washington Post:

Senate Republicans have made a calculated decision: Better to fail again trying to repeal the Affordable Care Act then not to try at all.

That bet, made out of fear rather than a sense that victory is any nearer than it has been all year, can be traced to this year’s August recess — the five-week stretch back home that immediately followed the Senate’s previous, failed attempt to overhaul the nation’s health-care laws. The late-summer break, distant as it already feels to many of us, remains fresh in some lawmakers’ minds.

It did not entail the kind of high-profile clashes at town halls that Democrats faced eight years ago as they began drafting the Affordable Care Act — or that House Republicans confronted at the start of the year, when their repeal effort took shape. Nevertheless, according to GOP senators and aides, Republicans faced an unrelenting barrage of confrontations with some of their closest supporters, donors and friends. The moments occurred in small gatherings that proved even more meaningful than a caustic town hall — at meetings with local business executives, at church, at parks.

It didn’t matter if those friends and allies were big-time supporters of President Trump or part of the “Never Trump” crowd of purist conservatives opposed to his hostile takeover of the GOP. By August, those two wings came together in their sheer, utter contempt toward a Republican-controlled Congress that could not back up its most basic promise, to repeal Obamacare. Trump’s hectoring via social media egged them all on.


From what I can see, the votes don't exist for this version either. But Republicans are too scared to admit reality.
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"Better to fail again trying to repeal the Affordable Care Act then not to try at all." (Original Post) brooklynite Sep 2017 OP
that is good to hear virtualobserver Sep 2017 #1
That way some of them can go back to their morons and say see, I tried NightWatcher Sep 2017 #2
Don't let our guard down but I agree California_Republic Sep 2017 #3
I hope they don't have the votes. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #4
What a waste of time PJMcK Sep 2017 #5
They could just firebomb Planned Parenthood clinics. Girard442 Sep 2017 #6
This *could* be posturing, but what if no_hypocrisy Sep 2017 #7
the definition of insanity comes to mind. nt Javaman Sep 2017 #8
seriously fucked up Skittles Sep 2017 #9
Hey, they mind wind up killing millions of children, so why *wouldn't* they try again? Orrex Sep 2017 #10
Spread it far & wide: CrispyQ Sep 2017 #11
I think this is another troll attempt at repeal. Orsino Sep 2017 #12

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
2. That way some of them can go back to their morons and say see, I tried
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 11:04 AM
Sep 2017

What a bunch of losers. I just hope it does fail

California_Republic

(1,826 posts)
3. Don't let our guard down but I agree
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 11:04 AM
Sep 2017

During the Obama administration they voted over 70 times to repeal knowing it was going no where

GOP AIMS TO KILL OBAMACARE YET AGAIN AFTER FAILING 70 TIMES

PJMcK

(21,996 posts)
5. What a waste of time
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 11:10 AM
Sep 2017

This is a perfect example of all that is wrong with Republicans. After all, it's not as if there are any other issues facing our country that need attention. (snark)

Girard442

(6,065 posts)
6. They could just firebomb Planned Parenthood clinics.
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 11:25 AM
Sep 2017

It would be no more cruel than what they're attempting now and the Base would love it.

no_hypocrisy

(46,021 posts)
7. This *could* be posturing, but what if
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 11:30 AM
Sep 2017

the Bill passes? The Republicans haven't considered the repercussions of enacting such a destructive piece of legislation.

Skittles

(153,113 posts)
9. seriously fucked up
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 11:33 AM
Sep 2017

they're playing to the deplorable, who are too fucking stupid to know how badly it affects them.

CrispyQ

(36,421 posts)
11. Spread it far & wide:
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 11:43 AM
Sep 2017

Insurers Come Out Swinging Against New Republican Health Care Bill

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/20/us/politics/insurers-oppose-obamacare-repeal.html?mcubz=0

snip...

WASHINGTON — The health insurance industry, after cautiously watching Republican health care efforts for months, came out forcefully on Wednesday against the Senate’s latest bill to repeal the Affordable Care Act, suggesting that its state-by-state block grants could create health care chaos in the short term and a Balkanized, uncertain insurance market.

In the face of the industry opposition, Senate Republican leaders nevertheless said they would push for a showdown vote next week on the legislation, drafted by Senators Lindsey Graham of South Carolina and Bill Cassidy of Louisiana.

That puts Republican senators in a squeeze, especially those whose states would lose money under a complicated formula in the bill. Generally, it would shift federal funds away from states that have been successful in expanding coverage to states where Republican leaders refused to expand Medicaid or encourage enrollment.

Republican senators from Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado, Ohio and West Virginia will all have to decide whether to heed the pleas of consumers who like the current health law — or yield to the will of Republican leaders, donors and voters who demand an end to the Affordable Care Act.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
12. I think this is another troll attempt at repeal.
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 12:27 PM
Sep 2017

If they really wanted it, they'd have done it in January, and they can't be seen giving up while there's still time on the clock.

They don't dare risk being responsible for the paupering and/or deaths of millions, despite their years of repeal bluster. But they have to pretend, and that's going to be another nail-biter as they decide who's going to tease-and-flip at the last second this time around.

I'm terrified that I'm wrong about this, though.

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