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The_jackalope

(1,660 posts)
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 10:17 AM Nov 2017

The entire nation has been sensitized to sexual abuse, just in time.

Just in time for the release of videos, or at least credible stories about videos, showing Trump raping and abusing young girls. Members of the Five Eyes intel community are strongly rumoured to be in possession of videos that go far beyond the dossier's golden shower allegations. If this is true, then due to the outrage that has blossomed across the political spectrum, Mad King Donald will not be able to escape the nuclear fallout.

If I was wearing tinfoil, I might even speculate that the social climate was being groomed for this. But even if it's just coincidental, it's a wonderful coincidence. All but the most deplorable of deplorables will be ready to react with revulsion.

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The entire nation has been sensitized to sexual abuse, just in time. (Original Post) The_jackalope Nov 2017 OP
All you have to do is look at mercuryblues Nov 2017 #1
How will they spin it? The_jackalope Nov 2017 #2
Moore does not mercuryblues Nov 2017 #5
Well, I'm not quite that cynical The_jackalope Nov 2017 #8
I am that cynical mercuryblues Nov 2017 #9
I used to be, but I gave it up a couple of years ago. The_jackalope Nov 2017 #12
Heres a more likely conspiracy theory Nevernose Nov 2017 #3
Where exactly is this story coming from? Control-Z Nov 2017 #4
the 5 eyes refers to mercuryblues Nov 2017 #6
It's being widely reported on Twitter. The_jackalope Nov 2017 #7
Welcome to DU. lagomorph777 Nov 2017 #10
Thanks, but I'm not new. The_jackalope Nov 2017 #11
It's well-documented that Trump partied with Jeffrey Epstein. RedSpartan Nov 2017 #13
Utterly legitimate. The_jackalope Nov 2017 #14

mercuryblues

(14,491 posts)
1. All you have to do is look at
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 10:28 AM
Nov 2017

how the Roy Moore abuse is being played out in republican world. Put that on steroids and that is how his cult will act when videos come out.

The_jackalope

(1,660 posts)
2. How will they spin it?
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 10:38 AM
Nov 2017

"Better to have a President that rapes 13-year-olds than a Democrat"?

No, I think the response is going to overwhelmingly negative, even among the mouth-breathers.

mercuryblues

(14,491 posts)
5. Moore does not
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 11:01 AM
Nov 2017

have the cult status and following that trump does and he is being defended by republicans. I hardly think they will suddenly develop a moral compass when it comes to trump.

the 1st step will be to deny.

The 2nd step will be to deflect onto Clinton, Franken (even though Tweeden's claim has a hint of not being true. trump's team wouldn't hesitate to throw her under the bus and out her as lying to bolster their 3rd step)

The 3rd step will be "fake news" We already know that there are some fake videos out there. Just 1 being released and exposed as a fake will bolster that claim.

4th step will be well maybe it is true, but ...smear the victim. She was a prostitute, came onto him, he felt bad afterward and gave her money, why didn't she come forward when it happened? She is after money now and politically motivated. No one was hurt, she agreed to do it. (Her age will not matter.)


5th step, trump will tweet something outrageous and the news will report endlessly on that, dropping the assault story

6th step, repeat step 2, only more vindictive.

7th step repeat step 1.

8th step if that fails start a military action in NK

The_jackalope

(1,660 posts)
8. Well, I'm not quite that cynical
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 11:11 AM
Nov 2017

No question some will support him no matter what, but this will drain away most of his support. Certainly no Republican politician with aspirations to stay in their position will come out in support if there is video evidence.

mercuryblues

(14,491 posts)
9. I am that cynical
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 11:27 AM
Nov 2017

and it isn't like the republican party values women. They have shown over and over again for decades that women are nothing more than chattel to them. I hold no illusions that they will develop a conscious because of this. Republicans knew about his assaults before they voted for him and are ok with it.

The_jackalope

(1,660 posts)
12. I used to be, but I gave it up a couple of years ago.
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 12:05 PM
Nov 2017

I found it was making me to hard, bitter, angry and joyless. I was lucky to discover that in my case cynicism was a choice I'd made.

Best of luck.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
3. Heres a more likely conspiracy theory
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 10:46 AM
Nov 2017

At least IMO:

Weinstein’s story was the afterthought. People tend to forget that. The main story was that the Trump children were about to be charged with multiple felonies, then made a large donation to the NY DA’s campaign and the charges were dropped. Weinstein’s disgustingness was tacked on almost like just to prove how corrupt the DA was.

Then other women spoke up.

Then reporters found those women in Alabama. Since then, the only people hit with sexual harassment accusations — some obviously true, some obviously false — have been Democrats/Liberals.

Which means that, in order to muddy the Roy Moore waters, some Republican is orchestrating the leak of all these other people. We know from testimony and experience that Republicans do it, too. But no one is going to reporters...

Control-Z

(15,681 posts)
4. Where exactly is this story coming from?
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 10:51 AM
Nov 2017
Members of the Five Eyes intel community are strongly rumoured to be in possession of videos that go far beyond the dossier's golden shower allegations.


I've never heard of these people. Is there something I can read?

mercuryblues

(14,491 posts)
6. the 5 eyes refers to
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 11:05 AM
Nov 2017

5 countries that have an agreement to share intel. Canada, USA, Australia, UK and New Zealand.

The_jackalope

(1,660 posts)
7. It's being widely reported on Twitter.
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 11:08 AM
Nov 2017

@Counterchekist mentions it a lot. I don't know who he is IRL, but he sounds like he knows what he's talking about, and John Schindler respects him.






Camping on half a dozen Twitter feeds is a great way to get an informed glimpse of what's going on out there, so longs as the feeds are carefully chosen.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
10. Welcome to DU.
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 11:28 AM
Nov 2017

Amazing how many new members are popping up to feed the shitstorm (regardless of side, it's a terrific distraction from the Russia probe).

The_jackalope

(1,660 posts)
11. Thanks, but I'm not new.
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 12:02 PM
Nov 2017

Just had to put on a new face. I've outed myself before about this. As a human being I've been posting here since 2004.

About Russia, just let me say this:

Putin, Dugin, Surkov, Gerasimov, Mogilevich, Torshin, Agaralov, Ryobolev, Alfa, SVB, Vnesheconombank, Spectrum Health, Kelhios, Boris Epshteyn, Alexander Nikulin, and the entire Trump administration... I'm fine on the Russia business, thanks.

I'm just thinking that if it's going to be video of Trump raping teenyboppers that finally holes him below the waterline, the social climate in the USA is just about perfect right now. Everybody's condemning sexual assault.

I know it's reasonable these days to think that people with low post counts expressing ideas you disagree with may be bots or oppo trolls, but it ain't always true.

RedSpartan

(1,693 posts)
13. It's well-documented that Trump partied with Jeffrey Epstein.
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 12:08 PM
Nov 2017

Look it up.

When asked if he ever partied with underage girls together with Trump, Epstein took the Fifth.

This isn't some tin-foil hat conspiracy theory; there is unfortunately some legitimate background to it.

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