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Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 02:33 AM Dec 2015

Female San Bernardino shooting suspect ID'd as Tashfeen Malik, officials confirm

Source: CBS News

@CBSNews: NEW: Female #SanBernardino shooting suspect ID'd as Tashfeen Malik, officials confirm https://t.co/rT69aVLfyH/s/XI7z https://t.co/gtMXKkQGUG/s/enpT

@CBSNews: RT @CBSNLive: 2 suspects killed in officer shootout were married, had 6-month-old, @DavidBegnaud reports https://t.co/HZ3UYtYG95/s/LHba https://t.co/8H32WrzVrC/s/rZDs

@sbcountysheriff: Syed Rizwan Farook was a San Bernardino County employee. The relationship between the two susp. not confirmed. Could be wife, gf etc.

Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/live/

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Female San Bernardino shooting suspect ID'd as Tashfeen Malik, officials confirm (Original Post) Hissyspit Dec 2015 OP
Wonder if this was Farouk's wife. And if so, where are their kids? TwilightGardener Dec 2015 #1
they left their baby with his mother and told her they had a doctor's appt. nt magical thyme Dec 2015 #24
LA times has it also.... riversedge Dec 2015 #2
Traveled to Saudi Arabia? flamingdem Dec 2015 #4
Apparently he met his wife/gf online and they both came back from Saudi Arabia darkangel218 Dec 2015 #9
On Jihadcupid? flamingdem Dec 2015 #14
Thats my guess. darkangel218 Dec 2015 #15
Or it could have been a spiritually inspired pilgrimage to Mecca - hedgehog Dec 2015 #46
Maybe he did but this sounds fishy. trillion Dec 2015 #6
originally they said he left angry 2pooped2pop Dec 2015 #32
Goodness. What a mess. It will be interesting what they decide to call this tragedy yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #3
Islamo-postalism nt flamingdem Dec 2015 #5
hehehehehe. More like USA-postalism. He was living the american dream right down to gunnut and how trillion Dec 2015 #7
We're going to have to update the definition of the "American Dream" nt flamingdem Dec 2015 #8
House in the 'burbs, white picket fence, a trip to Saudi Arabia ... JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2015 #22
Such a lovely couple flamingdem Dec 2015 #48
I think they intended to kill the co-workers then he would return to the site like nothing happened 951-Riverside Dec 2015 #10
I wanna know - where is their infant flamingdem Dec 2015 #13
"The pair dropped the baby off to a grandparent and said they had a dentist appointment." 951-Riverside Dec 2015 #16
Good god. That poor little thing. nt Nay Dec 2015 #38
yes, I think they thought they would get away with it. n/t 2pooped2pop Dec 2015 #33
Actually, it doesn't add up. It's not normal circumstances - being on good terms with co-workers trillion Dec 2015 #17
It seems like everything they did was meant to create an alibi and conceal their identities. 951-Riverside Dec 2015 #18
I think a terrorist attack was planned for the future TexasMommaWithAHat Dec 2015 #29
And once again our pals in Saudi Arabia fuck us. Marrah_G Dec 2015 #11
+1 darkangel218 Dec 2015 #12
Yes. We just can't leave the oil alone. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #19
BBC's update nitpicker Dec 2015 #20
perhaps he has been getting crappy treatment from his coworkers 2pooped2pop Dec 2015 #35
All I can think is the woman must have been beyond stupid and right into criminal Proserpina Dec 2015 #21
I am sure Ted Cruz will be calling for the infant's deportation Kelvin Mace Dec 2015 #30
Why do you assume he convinced her and not the other way around? Renew Deal Dec 2015 #41
I was going to ask the same question leftynyc Dec 2015 #49
Sounds like she is an immigrant. Elmergantry Dec 2015 #23
It may be looser for fiances n/t TexasBushwhacker Dec 2015 #43
An apparent terrorist from Saudi Arabia daleo Dec 2015 #25
+ 10000 This ^ GW Bush: " fighting them over there so we don't have to fight them here" misterhighwasted Dec 2015 #27
If we think invading Iraq destablized the Middle East The2ndWheel Dec 2015 #28
I believe they just said more troops on the ground in Iraq 2pooped2pop Dec 2015 #36
Is she our first female terrorist? TexasMommaWithAHat Dec 2015 #26
If she's Saudi she would do what her husband demanded. misterhighwasted Dec 2015 #31
I don't know. Was this happening in the 1700's? TexasMommaWithAHat Dec 2015 #34
Oh you are so right. Our moms & gramas certainly not. misterhighwasted Dec 2015 #37
The pretty green lady leftynyc Dec 2015 #50
Im thinking more like the Bush Crime Family. misterhighwasted Dec 2015 #51
People have been immigrating from leftynyc Dec 2015 #52
Certainly. My point goes to the Bush /Saudi creation of Terrorism as a means to meet misterhighwasted Dec 2015 #53
I'm not following you leftynyc Dec 2015 #54
I understand. I hold blame for Bush/Saudis who created, misterhighwasted Dec 2015 #55
Not even close ButterflyBlood Dec 2015 #39
I was thinking of foreign-born terrorists TexasMommaWithAHat Dec 2015 #40
You sure? You did say "our first female terrorist" not "first foreign-born terrorist." either way kydo Dec 2015 #42
Yes, I'm quite sure I know what I was "thinking" TexasMommaWithAHat Dec 2015 #44
Obviously. But remember most people are not born with mind reading genes. kydo Dec 2015 #45
Don't forget this charming pair starroute Dec 2015 #47

riversedge

(69,730 posts)
2. LA times has it also....
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 02:41 AM
Dec 2015




San Bernardino shooting suspect traveled to Saudi Arabia, was married, appeared to be living 'American Dream,' co-workers say
Multiple victims reported in San Bernardino shooting



As the holiday gathering got underway Wednesday morning, Syed Farook joined dozens of his colleagues from San Bernardino County’s Public Health Department. Farook, a food inspector, seemed quiet during the early hours of the event, then vanished just as a group photo was about to be taken.

Shorty afterward, gunfire erupted at the Inland Regional Center where the employees filled a conference room. Within hours, law enforcement sources identified a man named Syed Farook as a suspect in the massacre and said he was shot to death in a gun battle with officers.
...................................

Co-workers told The Times that they were shocked to hear Farook’s name linked to the shooting. Two health department employees who were in the bathroom when the bullets began to fly said Farook was quiet and polite, with no obvious grudges.

They said Farook had traveled to Saudi Arabia and returned with a new wife he met online. The couple had a baby and appeared to be “living the American dream,” said Patrick Baccari, a fellow food inspector who shared a cubicle with Farook.


San Bernardino shooting live updates: Syed Farook and Tashfeen Malik named as suspects in attack that killed 14


Baccari and Christian Nwadike said Farook, who worked with them for about three years, rarely started a conversation. But the tall, thin, young man with a full beard was well-liked and spent much of his time out in the field.

See the most-read stories this hour >>

They and other colleagues said Farook was a devout Muslim, but rarely discussed religion at work......

ww.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-syed-farook-had-traveled-to-saudi-arabia-married-appeared-to-live-american-dream-co-workers-say-20151202-story.html
 

trillion

(1,859 posts)
6. Maybe he did but this sounds fishy.
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 02:55 AM
Dec 2015

I would say at most, its a random office shooting and not a terrorist plot. If he was into terror he sure had low sites for causing damage. I mean, get your coworkers sounds like a standard office shooting to me. I don't know what's up with the woman. Was she obeying him in some crazy obedient wife sense? Either way, another nut with a gun who shouldn't have had one.

 

2pooped2pop

(5,420 posts)
32. originally they said he left angry
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 10:20 AM
Dec 2015

now he is quiet as a mouse. They are changing the story, or mistaken. I wonder?

 

trillion

(1,859 posts)
7. hehehehehe. More like USA-postalism. He was living the american dream right down to gunnut and how
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 02:59 AM
Dec 2015

he handles disputes. I don't think this shooting had anything to do with Islam.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,283 posts)
22. House in the 'burbs, white picket fence, a trip to Saudi Arabia ...
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 08:56 AM
Dec 2015

... to, probably among other things, gain a spouse.

The bride was resplendent in camouflaged field-wear, with contrasting black bulletproof vest and balaclava, her train constructed of gleaming linked cartridges. The exchange of rifles at the altar was a sweet touch.

Livin' the dream ..

flamingdem

(39,304 posts)
48. Such a lovely couple
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 01:07 PM
Dec 2015

However the neighbors would scratch their heads when they heard them at night in the throes of passion screaming Alahu Akbar!

 

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
10. I think they intended to kill the co-workers then he would return to the site like nothing happened
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 03:40 AM
Dec 2015

"OMG! Whaaat? No Way! I left for lunch and this happened? Noooo! OMG!"

Once you consider that

1. His co-workers threw a baby shower for them (which means they were on good terms)

2. It happened just before lunch/break time (Perfect alibi)

3. They wore masks (They didn't intend on anyone finding out who they were)

4. They got caught trying to return home (Why would they try to return home instead of committing other attacks or trying to flee?)

I think its very possible he was trying to do this except, he never factored in that people would notice that he left just before the shooting and witnesses would see the car he left in.

 

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
16. "The pair dropped the baby off to a grandparent and said they had a dentist appointment."
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 03:57 AM
Dec 2015
The deceased female suspect has been identified as Tashfeen Malik, 27. She and Farook were married for two years.. The two had a 6-month-old baby daughter. KCAL9’s Elsa Ramon said the pair dropped the baby off to a grandparent and said they had a dentist appointment.


http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2015/12/02/multiple-victims-reported-shot-in-san-bernardino/
 

trillion

(1,859 posts)
17. Actually, it doesn't add up. It's not normal circumstances - being on good terms with co-workers
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 04:01 AM
Dec 2015

and all. That's not any of the office shooters I've heard of. There's nothing adding up about these people doing this. Even having multiple people involved in the shooting when it's just a disgruntled employee. This isn't right. Her having a baby and doing this isn't right. This is so far off than any normal shooting - office or anything else.

 

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
18. It seems like everything they did was meant to create an alibi and conceal their identities.
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 04:09 AM
Dec 2015

The masks, dropping the baby off then saying that they were going to the dentist, leaving work around lunch time, trying to return home, not attacking other locations.

You would think that if they intended for this to be a one way deal, they would just show up at his worksite unmasked, kill a bunch of people, leave, attack another location and die in a shootout with law enforcement.

TexasMommaWithAHat

(3,212 posts)
29. I think a terrorist attack was planned for the future
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 10:13 AM
Dec 2015

but it was moved up to get his co-workers at this party.

But why?

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
11. And once again our pals in Saudi Arabia fuck us.
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 03:47 AM
Dec 2015

never fails. But we continue to make them rich, rich, rich!

nitpicker

(7,153 posts)
20. BBC's update
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 05:57 AM
Dec 2015
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34991855

San Bernardino shooting: Police kill two suspects after hunt

14 minutes ago(snip)

Mr Burguan said that Farook had left the event - which was possibly a holiday party for employees or a meeting - "under some circumstances that were described as angry," and returned with Malik.

Earlier, the FBI said it was not ruling out the possibility of terrorism but the situation was still being investigated.
(snip)

Police have identified Syed Rizwan Farook, a 28-year-old US-born male, and Tashfeen Malik, a 27-year-old woman, as the two dead suspects. Relatives have said the two were married.
(snip)

Fourteen people were killed, and police have not released any details. However it appears that those targeted were colleagues of Farook's in the San Bernardino county public health department, who were holding a work event at the centre's conference facilities.
(snip)

Police said they had "no information on motivation," but Farook had earlier left the work event after an angry incident. He returned with Malik, both heavily armed, to carry out the massacre. Terrorism and a workplace dispute are among the possible motives.
(snip)

For this city, it has been a day of panic and chaos, as people struggle to cope with America's worst mass shooting in three years. By one measure though, there has been more than one mass shooting on average every day this year. In that respect this was just another day in the United States of America.
(snip)
 

2pooped2pop

(5,420 posts)
35. perhaps he has been getting crappy treatment from his coworkers
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 10:28 AM
Dec 2015

due to Isis? And if this was a Christmas party, then perhaps it would make more sense for him to retaliate on their Christian holiday after giving him racist shit over Isis and his religion?

Also it sounds like they thought they would get away with it (giving child to grandmother for the day) and maybe attending the party was his alibi?

One post mentioned they had cameras on them. If that is so, then maybe they were auditioning for Isis or something like that?

 

Proserpina

(2,352 posts)
21. All I can think is the woman must have been beyond stupid and right into criminal
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 06:03 AM
Dec 2015

to risk her infant daughter's future like that, no matter what tale hubby told her.

Still, the kid may be better off without those parents.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
27. + 10000 This ^ GW Bush: " fighting them over there so we don't have to fight them here"
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 10:12 AM
Dec 2015

Bush & Saudi driven terror. Once again.

The2ndWheel

(7,947 posts)
28. If we think invading Iraq destablized the Middle East
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 10:13 AM
Dec 2015

We should do the same to Saudi Arabia to really see a show.

 

2pooped2pop

(5,420 posts)
36. I believe they just said more troops on the ground in Iraq
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 10:29 AM
Dec 2015

Could have been elsewhere. But we are obviously on the right track.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
31. If she's Saudi she would do what her husband demanded.
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 10:18 AM
Dec 2015

Isn't this the RW vision for America?
A government of theology ruled by men, & created out of the threat of such terror.

If only Jeb! could be King the transition would be so much easier.

TexasMommaWithAHat

(3,212 posts)
34. I don't know. Was this happening in the 1700's?
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 10:24 AM
Dec 2015

1800's? 1900's?

I'm pretty sure my mom would not have done this - nor my aunts, my grandmothers, or any other woman I know.

Ha My grandmother ruled the roost!

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
37. Oh you are so right. Our moms & gramas certainly not.
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 10:33 AM
Dec 2015

This is power & men under the guise of religion.
Its not about a god. Its more like one great big cult.
Once again, the Saudi ideology is shoved on America.
Who invited them in?

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
51. Im thinking more like the Bush Crime Family.
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 01:56 PM
Dec 2015

GWBush, " We're fighting them over there so we don't have to fight them over here".
Saudis & the Bush's. Making things happen.

Our pretty green lady in NY Harbor welcomes all.
The Bush/Saudi connection created the terrorism we know today, whether its ISIS or RW KKKristian terrorists. The reason why is another Thread in itself.



misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
53. Certainly. My point goes to the Bush /Saudi creation of Terrorism as a means to meet
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 02:08 PM
Dec 2015

..their personal goals.
Starting with 9-11 and the Bush manipulation of our entry into the IRAQ War & all that event has brought us today.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
54. I'm not following you
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 02:18 PM
Dec 2015

terrorism did not start with bush and the saudis. Yes, getting involved in Iraq was the biggest foreign policy blunder of my lifetime but that's not where all this started.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
55. I understand. I hold blame for Bush/Saudis who created,
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 02:39 PM
Dec 2015

Funded, & opened the door to the upheaval in the ME. This is what brought about terrorist groups we see operating today.
I believe if we could clearly follow the money, both the Bush' & the Saudis hands are still a part of the existence of religuous extremists. Whether ME religions or US RW Christians, the use of fear to control is their m.o.

However the build up to make extremist terrorism a daily occurrance began years ago. Bush/Saudi just made it a reality. 9-11 and beyond

They did nothing to control or prevent the creation or spread of terrorism. They gave it legs to run on.

Of course, its a far deeper story than I can elaborate on here.

ButterflyBlood

(12,644 posts)
39. Not even close
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 10:37 AM
Dec 2015

There were female members of the Weathermen and SLA, and I know of at least one woman who was arrested for anti-abortion violence.

kydo

(2,679 posts)
42. You sure? You did say "our first female terrorist" not "first foreign-born terrorist." either way
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 11:15 AM
Dec 2015

She wasn't the first female US terrorist foreign born are born here.....

Here is one that hated Mondays .....


The Cleveland Elementary School shooting took place on January 29, 1979, in San Diego, California. Shots were fired at a public elementary school. The principal and a custodian were killed. Eight children and a police officer were injured. A 16-year-old girl, Brenda Spencer,[1] who lived in a house across the street from the school, was convicted of the shootings. Tried as an adult, Spencer pleaded guilty to two counts of murder and assault with a deadly weapon, and was given an indefinite sentence. She is currently in prison.

A reporter got through to Spencer after the shooting while she was still in the house. The reporter asked Spencer why she carried out the shooting. She answered: "I don't like Mondays",[2] which inspired Bob Geldof to write the Boomtown Rats' song by that name.[3] Spencer later said she did not recall making the remark.

Link


TexasMommaWithAHat

(3,212 posts)
44. Yes, I'm quite sure I know what I was "thinking"
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 11:23 AM
Dec 2015

Anyone who lived through the Patty Hearst days is fully aware that we have had female terrorists.

I simply didn't make myself very clear.

kydo

(2,679 posts)
45. Obviously. But remember most people are not born with mind reading genes.
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 11:31 AM
Dec 2015

And I lived through Patty Hearst too ... Not that it matters ... But I still can only take what is written as the question not what one was thinking when writing. That's like a crazy doctor in line at a chicken joint that's being held up and he thinks, I think the gun doesn't want me he wants the person behind the counter, and so thus he does nothing, well except maybe tell the others to jump the guy with the gun ....

starroute

(12,977 posts)
47. Don't forget this charming pair
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 12:32 PM
Dec 2015
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/usanow/2014/06/09/las-vegas-couple-shooting/10248805/

Jerad Miller and his wife, Amanda, loved super villains.

They walked about their Las Vegas apartment complex dressed as Batman villains, the Joker and his vampy sidekick Harley Quinn. Amanda Miller's Facebook profile photo shows the pair in their Joker costumes.

Police say it was a window into the couple's troubled lives. Underneath their painted faces, they were a homicidal rage against authority.

The couple opened fire Sunday in a Las Vegas pizza restaurant and killed two police officers, draping one body with a "don't tread on me" flag and a swastika. On another, they pinned a menacing note, authorities said Monday.
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