Jewish Teens Birthday Ruined As Friends Make Swastika Cupcakes
Source: Huff Post
An Arizona mother said she hopes cruel birthday cupcakes given to her teenage daughter will become a teachable moment about the horrors of the Holocaust.
Deborah Muller, of Paradise Valley, said her daughters 14th birthday party this month included cupcakes that guests were allowed to frost. Two girls, who Muller said are friends of her daughter, decorated cupcakes with chocolate swastikas, even though the birthday girl is Jewish, according to KPNX-TV.
Muller said in a now-deleted Facebook post that the girls told her they did it to be funny. She said the teens all recently learned about the Holocaust in school, and were aware of the symbols meaning.
The girls uploaded photos of the swastika cupcake to Snapchat, according to Phoenix New Times.
Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/swastika-cupcakes-birthday-gift_us_583df40ee4b04fcaa4d562a6
MY state of Arizona. Any DUer that gets butthurt when I slam another state's bullshit, remember: I'm from fucking Arizona!
Why don't these people do this to me? Is being 6'2", 245 lbs and being able to bench 385 really enough to keep these trump licking racist turds at arm's length? I know I am overseas now, but back in Arizona, no one dared try this with me.
virgogal
(10,178 posts)leftynyc
(26,060 posts)I have ZERO trouble believing it.
Javaman
(62,503 posts)CountAllVotes
(20,866 posts)Over 6,000,000 people died because of non-believers!
Lotusflower70
(3,077 posts)What the hell is wrong some people? Seriously? This is supposed to be funny. Not even close. If those girls are her so called friends, I would be really concerned about enemies.
elmac
(4,642 posts)without thinking it out. They may be too young to understand what really happened. Maybe when they are older they should be shown Films taken by the British as they liberated numerous concentration camps at the end of WWII. Thats how I learned about the horrors that words cannot describe.
Lotusflower70
(3,077 posts)But the article said they knew what it meant and thought it was funny. They will probably have a moment later when they realize the reality of what they did.
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)I didn't know it was racist.
Same argument.
Lotusflower70
(3,077 posts)I thought their argument that it was funny was pitiful. It was an unacceptable thing they did.
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)elmac
(4,642 posts)so lets give these kids a chance to learn and grow up.
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)If they did it at school, we'd all be upset with bullying. But at someone's house seems to be okay.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/29/health/school-survey-post-election-negative-incidents/index.html#
Granny M
(1,395 posts)when I was about 10. They are getting this from adults in their lives. Glad my mom and dad had integrity and we discussed the truth in our home.
RobinA
(9,886 posts)of these chidren is sorely lacking. Or something. I read Diary of Anne Frank when I was 10. In school. There was no doubt in my mind that there was nothing funny about the situation, and I certainly never got the idea that my young classmates felt any differently. Either they weren't really taught about the Holocaust or they are seriously lacking in the empathy department.
MADem
(135,425 posts)Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)that will teach them how not to put a swastika on a Jewish "friend's" cupcake. NEVER FUCKING AGAIN!
DRoseDARs
(6,810 posts)Um, kay...
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)The only language bigots understand is beating them into the ground.
When you get swastikas etched into your locker, car and written in sharpie in your books. . .when you are attacked by six people for being a "motherfucking jew bastard kike," you can come to me and tell me about physical violence.
But these 14 year old hitler youth assholes, fuck their parents and fuck anyone who defends or plays apologist for them!
GummyBearz
(2,931 posts)Only way they learn right? Gotta use your 200+ pounds to kick their teeth out and smash their heads in the pavement. Will that make you happy?
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)I didn't need to look over my shoulder anymore to see where I was going to get attacked, because the fucking school and the county sheriff wouldn't do a damn thing about it.
Sometimes, gotta take the law into your own hands and defend yourself. My mother, the Mohawk, and my father, the Jew, taught me that. Or else you get your land stolen from you (my mother's people) and you get exterminated in camps (my father's people).
But I doubt white Christians will understand that.
DRoseDARs
(6,810 posts)Tone it down, Bluto. You're coming off as the very thing you loathe: A bully.
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)Ehh. . .it was just a Jew. Who cares?
I wonder if you would feel the same way if the girl was sexually harassed by the boys at her party.
Or if it were Islamophobia
Or Homophobia.
Anti-Semtism is okay in the new Amerikkka. You have just told me that. . .since "This is a pair of teenage girls, at a birthday party they were invited to as friends, with cupcakes." With a fucking swastika drawn on them.
JEw hating is okay in modern America. Just Mexican hating. Muslim hating. Native American hating.
We have made racism and bigotry the norm now. If you say how wrong it is, you're a bully? Unfortunately, DU rules prevent me for voicing my true opinion of your comment.
DRoseDARs
(6,810 posts)Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)impress me.
DRoseDARs
(6,810 posts)I have no "acceptance of bigotry" that's totally imagined on your part, but your cavalier attitude about brutally beating children over thoughtlessly-decorated cupcakes is disturbing. I would normally say you need a hug, but every post since has only gotten worse. You have some anger issues and you need to seek help before you do something you'll regret.
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)Two gay men walk into a bar. . .
IT's just a joke!
I have anger issues with bigots! You accept them apparently. I refuse to. I don't care the age.
DRoseDARs
(6,810 posts)You're not well. For the sake of those around you you care about and who care for you, seek help.
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)salin
(48,955 posts)casting it as such or even accepting it as such is part of the 'normalizing' that is going on. Frightening.
MADem
(135,425 posts)do loathsome things.
I urge you to seek help--anyone who advocates beating teens with heavy mining equipment has SERIOUS issues that are beyond the ability of a political discussion board to address.
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)and now having my wife get the same thing here in China for marrying me and back home on our honeymoon for being not-white taints a person.
Hot button issue for me. These wonderful, innocent little children deserve whatever they get. Sociopathic, East Valley turds!
MADem
(135,425 posts)That is not hyperbole, that is advocacy of brutal violence and is very DISTURBING.
Like I said, seek help.
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)because I am Jewish. Shit, the principal of my school got into my face and told me to step outside one time so he could put my "Christ Killing Jewbastard face" in "its place." I was beaten by adults and teenagers as a kid many times for being Jewish in upstate New York. Where was the self-righteous indignation there?
I don't believe in innocence. My brother was targeted in Arizona by adults and teenagers all throughout his time in the Marana School District. They did nothing.
These kids deserve whatever they get. And the only way to get the nazi out of someone is to beat it out of them.
MADem
(135,425 posts)One more time-get some help. These are NOT NORMAL VIEWS.
I really don't care about your anecdotes. Your position on beating children is wrong and inappropriate for this message board. We do not advocate that kind of thing.
Ever heard the expression "Two wrongs don't make a right?" Take that to heart and get yourself correct.
metroins
(2,550 posts)Seek out a professional.
You're talking about beating 14 year old girls into the ground.
Please get help.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)I think it's valiant you want to beat down two 14-year old girls. Heroic even, if we may, in both sentiment and courage. Your righteousness is most warranted...
Gothmog
(144,919 posts)DesertRat
(27,995 posts)According to the Mom:
The party involved one cupcake, not "cupcakes," as the Channel 12 story relates. That mistake was picked up by other news outlets. Channel 12 also tweeted that the teens had brought the "swastika cupcakes" to the party an incorrect detail also duplicated in various stories. One Jewish news site dubbed the small gathering "A Swastika Filled Party."
But she says the story is essentially true, and that it justifies a "teaching moment."
"This is not a political thing," the mom says of her post. "This is the environment we live in."
She talked to the parents of the ten or so teens at the party to apologize for what had happened and to discuss it with them. The girl most responsible for the cupcake said she did to be "funny" and apologized.
http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/swastika-on-cupcake-at-jewish-teens-party-a-teaching-moment-says-phoenix-mom-8864791
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)You should have kicked the girl out of your house and told the ADL about it.
Overblown or not. . .don't care. There is no place in civilized society for Nazis! And anyone who thinks otherwise, saying it is overblown, loses all respect for me.
After all, it was just one mosque that was defaced.
It was just one racist comment directed at the black one on the street
IT was just one Asian American told to go back to where they came from.
It was only one woman who was sexual harassed
NOT A BIG FUCKING DEAL!
regnaD kciN
(26,044 posts)I mention this because he built a whole film around a farcical musical comedy about Hitler and the Nazis. With chorus lines in the form of swastikas and everything. And he has worked Nazis as figures of fun into several of his other films.
In each case, he meant it as pure absurd comedy. Do you see it as such? Or do you think what he did was offensive and had the effect of "normalizing" antisemitism by making it merely a matter for ridicule instead of unalloyed horror?
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)Good luck with that.
Paladin
(28,243 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)The one local news channel that carried the story initially wrote "cupcakes" instead of "cupcake".
It wasn't "exaggerated in the media".
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)secondwind
(16,903 posts)they comedic talents on others. What is most important here is that those friends realize this was over the top, and they didn't mean to hurt their friend's feelings ...
I will give them a pass on this..
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)Seriously, the level of accepting bigotry in this society is amazing.
JI7
(89,240 posts)problem .
and i'm pretty sure it's what has led to trump.
a while back there was an article of someone who took a selfie at a concentration camp and many were defending it because she is young or whatever with the attacks being against those who didn't like it.
i didn't even say anything should happen to her just that i thought it was wrong and i would not have done it.
Behind the Aegis
(53,921 posts)How else could one explain the "boys will boys" type mentality of some or comparing this to Jewish comics? There also seems to be a "threshold" when it comes to anti-Semitism; if the "right" says it...BAD! (usually), but if it is a "joke" or from the left, then the unacceptability becomes, well...reasons.
JI7
(89,240 posts)Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)Children have no responsibility for their actions or words. We have raised a generation of sociopaths.
LisaM
(27,794 posts)It's strange to think of, but the halfway point between the Holocaust and now is the 1970s and Germany is a reunited state. It sounds as if the mother handled it correctly and I think those girls have a long way to go to learn about the atrocities of World War II. They need to watch "Night and Fog' or something. But consider that they have learned a much tougher lesson than reading it in a book - and they'll remember it. At least I hope they will.
kebob
(499 posts)Or, at the very least, smarter ones!
Behind the Aegis
(53,921 posts)[hr]
It is never surprising to see things like this, nor is it surprising to see people minimizing the situation, making excuses for it, or ignoring it all together. Given all the other issues of hate in the last few weeks, I am not, as I said, too terribly surprised.
They say "sacred cows make the best hamburgers" but for some, it seems they really enjoy the kosher ones to chow down on and make equivocations as to why it is "OK".
Thankfully, we have non-Jewish folks to 'splain to us why we are overreacting and telling us how we should and shouldn't respond.
salin
(48,955 posts)JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,321 posts)... seem to be mostly Islamic.
And, interesting that Israel isn't among the countries that mostly recognize the holocaust.
As for awareness decreasing over time, I wonder what percentage of people recognize the Armenian Genocide?
Behind the Aegis
(53,921 posts)As for your non-sequitur, I am sure it is relevant in some fashion, or not.
iluvtennis
(19,833 posts)Bad Dog
(2,025 posts)When hate speech is afforded the protection of freedom of speech then being a Nazi becomes just another opinion, no different from what sports team one supports. It's pernicious and growing, it needs to be nipped in the bud. Back in the 1970s racist jokes were really funny too.
This is not another opinion, it's a hate crime and it needs to be treated as such before it escalates into something far worse.
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)These girls probably have no idea how repugnant their little 'joke' is to so many who lost their relatives to the Holocaust. It's clearly something that we must educate students about. There are quite a few really good documentaries on the Holocaust. make these girls watch them all.
Demsrule86
(68,456 posts)They are teens...the fact they targeted a Jewish teen indicates they know what it means...that being said you can't beat these girls into decent people...they are being raised by fascists probably white supremacist asses for parents. What I would do is forbid my kid to associate with them. They are scum...maybe they will grow out of it maybe not...but I would not want my kid involved. I say this as the Grand-daughter of two Jewish Great-Grandparents who immigrated from Germany and became Lutherans...no idea why...maybe tired of the prejudice? Their families disowned them...years later my great-grands tried to get the family( before World WarII) into the US and failed. My branch of the family is the only one that survives...everyone in Germany died. When I realized as a young person what had happened and how my ancestors died, I was horrified. I have no patience with haters. They are dangerous.
etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)I don't even know how to respond to these stories anymore
MosheFeingold
(3,051 posts)I've been in exactly one physical fight in 30+ years. (I'm over 90, but in very fine physical shape.) I escaped Europe as a young man and served the USA Army in WWII as a translator for the military police. Most of my family was not so lucky.
I was attending a BBQ in the 1980s. Maybe the late 1970s. A man older than me, someone's grandfather, had mixed some sort of prescription drug with beer. He fell soundly asleep in an armchair in a quiet room.
A young asshole friend of my son drew a Hitler mustache on the man.
He thought himself quite witty and amusing and asked me if I was afraid of the mustache.
I beat him first with a wine bottle, then my fists. He went to the hospital. I broke a knuckle.
I was almost arrested, which would have been bad, but the cop had fought in Korea and remembered WWII rather vividly, so he decided I was provoked.
Not my finest moment, but I'd do it again.
etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)Javaman
(62,503 posts)where do 14 year old learn to do this? let alone think it "funny"?
oh right, the parents.
Javaman
(62,503 posts)while I could technically be of Jewish decent (my great grandmother was Jewish), I am an atheist.
that said.
My mom had two friends that were concentration camp survivors. They were my "Aunts". when I was very little, I asked my mom about the numbers on their arms.
She explained that a very bad man, years before I was born, tried to hurt my Aunts very badly.
From that moment, I tried to read more and more about the Holocaust.
Fast forward to when I was 21 and working as a clerk in a dept store.
An older woman came in, grandmotherly type. she was really sweet. She was returning something that was past the return date (this was the old days). I was really sorry and hated our return policy because it was clear that there was something wrong with the item. I apologized. she could see I felt really bad. when she reached for her item, her sleeve pulled up and I saw the numbers. the tattoo. Our eyes met. She said, "that's okay, there are worse things".
ChazII
(6,202 posts)instead of Paradise Valley. Two different things. I live next to the town but taught in Paradise Valley Unified School District for over 30 years. Bottom line this is horrible and at 14 years old they should have known better.
Sorceress
(309 posts)mainer
(12,018 posts)At the very least,l those kids should be forced to watch Schindler's List.
Demoiselle
(6,787 posts)Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)mainer
(12,018 posts)since some of them are so badly misinformed. Or rightwing themselves
I remember the Diary of Anne Frank being required reading when I was in school. Isn't this still true?
No American student should be able to get through the American school system without knowing about the horrors of WWII.