Congressman begs Electoral College voters to block Trump
Source: NY Post
A Democratic lawmaker is desperately lobbying the Electoral College to shun Donald Trump, and vote for Hillary Clinton even though he conceded Monday that the Republican won the election fair and square.
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Were 5 wks from Inauguration & the President Elect is completely unhinged. The electoral college must do what it was designed for, Himes wrote Sunday night on Twitter in response to Trumps gripe that NBC Nightly News is biased, inaccurate and bad, point after point.
In an interview Monday on CNNs New Day, Himes said that Trumps refusal to say that the Russians hacked Democrats during the election was what prompted his plea to the Electoral College.
What finally pushed me over the edge was when the president-elect of the United States criticized the CIA and the intelligence community. Can you imagine what the leaders in Beijing and Moscow and Tehran are thinking as they watch the next president of the United States delegitimize and criticize his own intelligence community and stand up for the defense of Russia, one of our prime adversaries, said Himes.
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Jean-Jacques Roussea
(475 posts)I'm sure they'll think that a carefully crafted speech against electing a Russian-controlled demagogue is more appealing than someone screaming MAGA for 20 minutes
riversedge
(69,726 posts)SoCalMusicLover
(3,194 posts)An insignificant Democratic lawmaker, that nobody has heard of, is asking the Republican electors, to block their own party nominee.
I'm sure he'll be taken seriously.
It's laughable that on one hand, we can see the repubs for what they are.....yet still hold out hope and prayers that they are reasonable, and willing to compromise somehow. LOL!
If there was Russian involvement in the elections, and it helped the repubs take over all branches of the government, why in the world would they resist or attempt to undo that?
It's like asking a team to protest an umpire's lame call that went in their favor.
unblock
(51,974 posts)i agree that the electoral college won't alter the election -- that's squarely in the realm of fantasy from my point of view -- but no need to malign my congresscritter! he's actually pretty good, from everything i've seen.
littlemissmartypants
(22,418 posts)But when it comes down to it isn't all of it just a kind of crap shoot at this point? I mean, either we're pissing in the wind or screaming in the wilderness. Where's the harm?
Maybe there's going to be a "Christmas Miracle" Tiny Tim style.... a gal can dream.
Though it may not appear so, I am trying to find a light in the darkness. I refuse to ruminate "We're so f*cked" for however long it takes for the fix to come in. And there's still that free speech thingy in place, at least for the moment.
I can see your point, however and the fact that we have "this dude" making the case is disheartening.
NewJeffCT
(56,827 posts)everybody here would be complaining the Democrats didn't speak out.
SoCalMusicLover
(3,194 posts)There really is very little else they can do for at least the next 2 years.
AlexSFCA
(6,137 posts)I find it very counterproductive to suggest that electors switch votes to Clinton. This feeds into Trump's narrative that this is all partisan driven. We have accepted that Clinton lost, we are trying to not lose our country too. Electors are free to cast their vote for any republican. For all I know, it could be Pence because he was part of the ticket but with no ties to Russia or conflict of interest.
And yes, the situation is so dire right now that even Pence would be a better outcome because he can be controlled and we can survive him. He is much more predictable.
Dopers_Greed
(2,640 posts)Paul Ryan.
In case of the Pres and VP being out, it defaults to the Speaker of the House anyway.
mopinko
(69,806 posts)how kind of you to join us to spew such bilge.
clinton won. get over it.
propaganda fail.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)I think it would end up being more damaging than a Trump Presidency, unfortunately
AlexSFCA
(6,137 posts)The case against Trump is growing stronger post election and not casting a vote for Trump based on the ties to adversary foreign government is a valid reason. The public is getting educated on how EC intended to work and almost everyone is getting aware now.
There won't be a civil war because no one will get 270 and the matter goes to congress so it won'tbe as rough as it seems. The only scenario of definite Civil War is if Clinton gets selected which I beleive is counterproductive to even suggest.
Lots of people voted for Pence and not Trump so his selection could help to calm down more than half of Trump voters.
By the way, the electors will be casting separate votes for both President snd Vice-President
onenote
(42,381 posts)for Congress to pick him.
Second, if they picked Pence, they'd probably have to pick Kaine to be VP because, in all likelihood, there wouldn't be another person for them to pick.
Third, Pence will make it clear to the members of the House that they shouldn't pick him, they should pick Trump. And that's what they'll do.
mopinko
(69,806 posts)how about this- the person w the most votes wins over the guy that sold us out to our global enemy. any less than that is a worthy cause to fight for.
go back in your hole. tell em it was no sale.
world wide wally
(21,719 posts)later after Trump is entrenched and has the title of CIC
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,283 posts)But some would say that the civil war never ended.
"Himes, who said the Republican isnt qualified to be mayor of a small town in Connecticut, admitted that under the rules, President-elect Donald Trump won fair and square.
why is he saying shit like this?
all this business about russia fucking with the election and he resorts this "fair and square" crap?
onetexan
(12,994 posts)and that is OK?? Everyday i wake up and feel like we are in some parallel universe with a great number of crazed Americans who've elected an insane demagogue to lead the country. Protecting the nation is a president's first duty as commander in chief. trump is not fit to run anything, much less be the leader of the free world. The orange bastardly bigot must be prevented from taking office in January, and if the EC is faced down in this lunacy and votes him in, then Democrats everywhere need to lead the charge to impeach him before trump and his ilk destroy our democracy. As Michael Bloomberg has some ominously said at the DNC convention, God help us!!