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Fri Oct 27, 2017, 01:00 AM

He's a maniac who's going to get us NUKED: JFK files reveal how the Soviet Union feared they were go

Source: Daily Mail


The Soviet Union feared they were going to get blamed for putting 'neurotic maniac' Lee Harvey Oswald up to assassinating John F Kennedy, one of more than 2,800 newly released assassination files has revealed.
The trove of files were published on the National Archives website Thursday night, but President Donald Trumphas kept at least 300 documents back so federal agencies can black out portions.
In one FBI document dated December 1, 1963, from director J Edgar Hoover, the agency reveals everything it has learned about the Soviet reaction to the JFK's assassinationand what its agents might have known about Oswald.
The tranche of documents reveal that the Soviets were just as obsessed with conspiracy theories surrounding Kennedy's death as the rest of the world.
'According to our source, officials of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union believed there was some well-organized conspiracy on the part of the 'ultraright' in the United States to effect a 'coup.''


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5022737/How-Soviet-Union-feared-blame-JFK-s-assassination.html







Anonymous call to British newspaper 25 minutes BEFORE the JFK assassination tipped reporter to call the US Embassy 'for some big news'

Strange report emerged Thursday in the document dump of JFK files
Cambridge News reporter got anonymous call tipping him to call US Embassy
MI-5 determined that the call was placed 25 minutes before the assassination
CIA officials shared the unusual report with the FBI four days after the shooting 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5022789/UK-reporter-got-tip-25-minutes-JFK-assassination.html

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Reply He's a maniac who's going to get us NUKED: JFK files reveal how the Soviet Union feared they were go (Original post)
Wash. state Desk Jet Oct 2017 OP
C Moon Oct 2017 #1
burrowowl Oct 2017 #2
Rene Oct 2017 #12
dixiegrrrrl Oct 2017 #19
Angleae Oct 2017 #20
OnDoutside Oct 2017 #3
applegrove Oct 2017 #4
Eliot Rosewater Oct 2017 #13
MindPilot Oct 2017 #14
Spider Jerusalem Oct 2017 #15
grantcart Oct 2017 #18
msongs Oct 2017 #5
Hornedfrog1985 Oct 2017 #6
Ohiya Oct 2017 #7
Hornedfrog1985 Oct 2017 #8
cannabis_flower Oct 2017 #10
sharedvalues Oct 2017 #9
Dave Starsky Oct 2017 #11
The Mouth Oct 2017 #16
Wash. state Desk Jet Oct 2017 #17

Response to Wash. state Desk Jet (Original post)

Fri Oct 27, 2017, 01:57 AM

1. The only reason Trump would want to "black something out" would be to protect someone rich.

I highly doubt he gives a shit about U.S. security.

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Response to C Moon (Reply #1)

Fri Oct 27, 2017, 02:01 AM

2. I agree!!!!

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Response to C Moon (Reply #1)

Fri Oct 27, 2017, 09:26 AM

12. In the days before photoshopping...

there's a photo of GHWBush in front of the Texas School Book Depository building that I've seen...and was never explained. His reason for being in Dallas that day never explained either.... I believe he was head of CIA at the time. .

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Response to Rene (Reply #12)

Fri Oct 27, 2017, 09:44 PM

19. A few years after the assassination

Bush claimed he could not remember where he was on that day.
That was a pretty obvious lie.

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Response to Rene (Reply #12)

Sat Oct 28, 2017, 05:35 AM

20. In 1963 he was president of Zapata Petroleum Corporation

per wiki

he was director of CIA in 76-77

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Response to Wash. state Desk Jet (Original post)

Fri Oct 27, 2017, 02:23 AM

3. Blackmail on Ted Cruz's dad ??? ;)

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Response to Wash. state Desk Jet (Original post)

Fri Oct 27, 2017, 02:47 AM

4. Robert MacNeil of PBS was a young reporter in Dallas

for some news organization. After the President was shot he ran to a bank of phones in the ground level of the Texas School Book Depository to call in the news. He saw Oswald walk by. So there was a bank of phones in the depository. Oswald could have called from there to Cambridge England before the president' s motorcade was anywhere nearby.

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Response to applegrove (Reply #4)

Fri Oct 27, 2017, 11:56 AM

13. Wouldnt that have taken a huge pocket full of change to call England? Or the bank of phones were

NOT pay phones?

Why would he call Cambridge of all places?

To me sounds like someone else made the call, but who knows.

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Response to applegrove (Reply #4)

Fri Oct 27, 2017, 12:01 PM

14. In 1963, you didn't just pick up the phone and make an overseas call.

 

Especially from a phone booth; you probably couldn't even direct dial outside of the local exchange.

Adds yet another question...

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Response to applegrove (Reply #4)

Fri Oct 27, 2017, 12:15 PM

15. A three-minute call from NY to London cost $45 in 1960

Oswald was broke. And making a long distance call from a payphone meant dialling the operator and having them switch the call to a trunk line.

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Response to applegrove (Reply #4)

Fri Oct 27, 2017, 01:59 PM

18. More likely the recollection of the call was incorrect or simply made up


The evidence is quite clear on what happened on that day but putting that aside the likelihood that there were people who were in England that knew about the plot, tipped a newspaper and then remained silent for 70 years is laughable.

The contention that they would send a tip and then never say anything is not plausible.

The fact is that most "secrets" like the identity of Deep Throat for example are leaked over time. If people knew they would talk. If people were inclined to phone in a tip then what would their motivation be not to expose it after the fact?

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Response to Wash. state Desk Jet (Original post)

Fri Oct 27, 2017, 03:26 AM

5. the soviets did it conspiracy was popular back then. hardly something to keep secret nt

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Response to Wash. state Desk Jet (Original post)

Fri Oct 27, 2017, 04:11 AM

6. Trump does nothing for no reason.

 

I truly believe every small thing trump does is to divert us or lead us to a conclusions he wants. I think hes releasing these documents to create distrust in the CIA and FBI. People need to stop letting him dictate their thoughts. Look at some of the documents. They cut off mid paragraph even to lead you to believe the CIA did something to JFK.

Hes setting a precedent that the CIA has taken out a president once before, and he will be next. Thats what he want peoples conclusions to be. I see through him better than anyone i know.

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Response to Hornedfrog1985 (Reply #6)

Fri Oct 27, 2017, 04:27 AM

7. I don't think that he is that smart.

I will not give him that much credit.

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Response to Ohiya (Reply #7)

Fri Oct 27, 2017, 04:32 AM

8. Cmon

 

Wake up! Trump is a genius manipulator. He knows what moves are happening because he knows hes guilty. He has to set up a conspiracy theory for himself.


Stone Thursday night said Trump's decision "has the inadvertent effect of fueling suspicion and skepticism."
"If the documents aren't embarrassing, then why withhold them?" Stone told CNN. "The issue is it shows the treachery of the Central Intelligence Agency who recruited (Lee Harvey Oswald), who trained him and who placed him."

He did the same thing to the cia director before the election was over. He said something about hjm being political. I told people then he was setting up a case that the cia is out to get him. He is making people distrust the cia more and more.

Watch the conclusions the media will come to, unwittingly helping trump undermine the CIA and FBI.

Just like when he said trump tower was "tapped" i said they must have audio, or evidence on him doing something wrong in there so he got it out ahead of it coming out. Then you saw a few months later that manafort was probably being watched forever. Trump knows potentially anything manafort did is on record or was being watched. Hes playing mental chess. He knows what he did, so when he does anything people need to think about what hes leading you to believe.

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Response to Hornedfrog1985 (Reply #8)

Fri Oct 27, 2017, 08:23 AM

10. As if...

the CIA hasn't already undermined themselves. They assisted in the assassination of Salvador Allende in Chile, the attempted coupe of Hugo Chávez More recently and many other anti-democratic operations. If you want an interesting read on the CIA and specifically a character who the author cleverly have the pseudonym Oliver South, read The Big White Lies by Michael Levine, an ex-DEA agent who had dealings with him.

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Response to Hornedfrog1985 (Reply #6)

Fri Oct 27, 2017, 07:49 AM

9. Yes of course

Agreed

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Response to Wash. state Desk Jet (Original post)

Fri Oct 27, 2017, 08:26 AM

11. Wait a minute. Didn't that mo-fo say JUST DAYS AGO...

That HE was going to release everything unredacted?

You mean, he lied again?

Is there anything on Earth that asshole WON'T lie about?

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Response to Wash. state Desk Jet (Original post)

Fri Oct 27, 2017, 12:44 PM

16. We should have a constitutional amendment

requiring *ALL* document to be released, un-redacted- after 10 years.

Everybody should know everything.

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Response to Wash. state Desk Jet (Original post)

Fri Oct 27, 2017, 01:52 PM

17. CNN- Analysis

Last edited Fri Oct 27, 2017, 05:10 PM - Edit history (1)

Incomplete JFK file dump doesn't provide the drama Trump promised

CNN)No one will remember in years to come where they were when they heard about the JFK assassination classified document dump of 2017.
In the end, what was supposed to be the final release of government secrets about the 1963 killing of President John F. Kennedy wasn't quite the blockbuster splash that President Donald Trump had been promising.

In fact, a day of intrigue and behind-the-scenes maneuvering by US intelligence agencies is likely only to feed the notorious conspiracy theories that the release of the historical trove was designed to quell once and for all.
It's 54 years since Kennedy died and a quarter century since Congress decreed Thursday as the day when all classified records related to the assassination should be thrown open to the public.

It's 54 years since Kennedy died and a quarter century since Congress decreed Thursday as the day when all classified records related to the assassination should be thrown open to the public.

Trump, with an impresario's flair, had been building it up for days, as though he was promoting one of his Miss Universe pageants rather than a fresh perspective on one of the most traumatic moments in US history.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/27/politics/trump-jfk-documents-analysis/index.html

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The three most interesting new JFK assassination records

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-three-most-interesting-new-jfk-assassination-records/

The newly released U.S. government files on the JFK assassination include some fascinating information. Here are three of the released documents that shed some light – and raise more questions – about what happened before and after President Kennedy was killed.
The Soviets called Lee Harvey Oswald a "maniac"
An FBI document from 1966 sheds some light on how American intelligence perceived the Soviet reaction to Kennedy's assassination. Citing several sources, the document lays out the "great shock" of the Soviet people and leadership, and their fears that JFK's death could lead to war with the U.S.

The Soviets seem to have been convinced that Oswald was no lone gunman, and was likely part of a "coup" launched by the American "ultraright." They also professed to have a low opinion of Oswald, who defected to the Soviet Union in 1959. Oswald, a former Marine who had worked at sensitive U.S. military installations in Japan, was apparently seen by the Soviets as a "neurotic maniac who

(1) The Soviets called Lee Harvey Oswald a "maniac

(2) An odd call in Cambridge 

(3) The FBI was trying to track Oswald before the assassination 

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