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BumRushDaShow

(127,312 posts)
Tue May 1, 2018, 08:12 PM May 2018

Mueller raised possibility of presidential subpoena in meeting with Trump's legal team

Source: Washington Post

In a tense meeting in early March with the special counsel, President Trump’s lawyers insisted he had no obligation to talk with federal investigators probing Russia’s interference in the 2016 presidential campaign.

But special counsel Robert S. Mueller III responded that he had another option if Trump declined: He could issue a subpoena for the president to appear before a grand jury, according to four people familiar with the encounter.

Mueller’s warning — the first time he is known to have mentioned a possible subpoena to Trump’s legal team — spurred a sharp retort from John Dowd, then the president’s lead lawyer. “This isn’t some game,” Dowd said, according to two people with knowledge of his comments. “You are screwing with the work of the president of the United States.”

The flare-up set in motion weeks of turmoil among Trump’s attorneys as they debated how to deal with the special counsel’s request for an interview, a dispute that ultimately led to Dowd’s resignation.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/mueller-raised-possibility-of-presidential-subpoena-in-meeting-with-trumps-legal-team/2018/05/01/2bdec08e-4d51-11e8-af46-b1d6dc0d9bfe_story.html

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Mueller raised possibility of presidential subpoena in meeting with Trump's legal team (Original Post) BumRushDaShow May 2018 OP
They should haul him before a grand jury then. Ligyron May 2018 #1
What work? More_Cowbell May 2018 #2
Ok, Sessions and the WH have vowed to stop the motherf***ing leaks. Iliyah May 2018 #3
This is bad news for Trump. NanceGreggs May 2018 #4
LOL Iliyah May 2018 #5
LOLOL! n/t OneGrassRoot May 2018 #7
'subpenis' sheshe2 May 2018 #10
Now, now, sheshe ... NanceGreggs May 2018 #14
;) sheshe2 May 2018 #21
! H2O Man May 2018 #12
Looks like Dowd saw the handwriting on the wall, realized Trump procon May 2018 #6
When the man who calls himself President committed treason to get into office Mr. Ected May 2018 #8
+1. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2018 #13
*I hope like hell the DOJ kicks his door down in the middle of the night to take him into custody* Leghorn21 May 2018 #15
I read last night on DU that Mueller might bypass BigmanPigman May 2018 #9
Can't bypass the grand jury for indictment marylandblue May 2018 #11
While most prosecutors H2O Man May 2018 #16
I think the defendant would have to waive the right to a grand jury for that marylandblue May 2018 #18
It's the prosecutor's choice. H2O Man May 2018 #19
I'm not a lawyer, but that seems like it violates the 5th Amendment marylandblue May 2018 #20
Fucking Toast! mobeau69 May 2018 #17
I don't think the Trump will oblige, and this is going to the SC. I think the likely hood that still_one May 2018 #22
Didn't Ken Starr subpoena Bill Clinton to question him about Monica? Zorro May 2018 #23
Yes BumRushDaShow May 2018 #25
Mueller needs to take DT to the Grand Jury. LiberalFighter May 2018 #24
If you want some serious entertainment WiseElder May 2018 #26
From Prof. Tribe Gothmog May 2018 #27
Well Ty Cobb is gone now BumRushDaShow May 2018 #28
From MSNBC Gothmog May 2018 #29

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
3. Ok, Sessions and the WH have vowed to stop the motherf***ing leaks.
Tue May 1, 2018, 08:19 PM
May 2018

Nothing has stopped and I believe the leaks are coming directly from the WH.

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
4. This is bad news for Trump.
Tue May 1, 2018, 08:21 PM
May 2018

There's no way he can spell "subpoena" - which will frustrate him no end when he tries to tweet about it.

procon

(15,805 posts)
6. Looks like Dowd saw the handwriting on the wall, realized Trump
Tue May 1, 2018, 08:25 PM
May 2018

was already doomed, so he saved himself and quit before Mueller's subpoenas will arrive.

heh-heh-heh... when will we see Trump doing the perp walk into the Grand Jury room?

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
8. When the man who calls himself President committed treason to get into office
Tue May 1, 2018, 08:31 PM
May 2018

I hope like hell the DOJ kicks his door down in the middle of the night to take him into custody.

Wearing the presidential seal as a shield against prosecution for criminal acts is an affront to the Constitution and everything we believe in. Prosecuting such an impostor is apolitical, and the opinions of 50 million misdirected, misinformed and deluded souls carry no weight under the circumstances.

Leghorn21

(13,520 posts)
15. *I hope like hell the DOJ kicks his door down in the middle of the night to take him into custody*
Tue May 1, 2018, 09:19 PM
May 2018
Oh fuck yeah Mr. Ected!!

That’s how ya do it!!!

BigmanPigman

(51,432 posts)
9. I read last night on DU that Mueller might bypass
Tue May 1, 2018, 08:33 PM
May 2018

the grand jury and subpoena and go right for indictment. How does that work?

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
11. Can't bypass the grand jury for indictment
Tue May 1, 2018, 08:48 PM
May 2018

It's in the Constitution. But he can indict without ever interviewing or issuing a subpoena to the target.

H2O Man

(73,333 posts)
16. While most prosecutors
Tue May 1, 2018, 09:21 PM
May 2018

prefer grand juries, in which only their side is present (and presents), there is the option of a preliminary hearing (where the accused is allowed to have their side presented).

On edit: This is not to imply that Mr. Mueller might do so.

H2O Man

(73,333 posts)
19. It's the prosecutor's choice.
Tue May 1, 2018, 09:33 PM
May 2018

In a case such as those that Mr. Mueller is investigating, it is pretty unlikely. A grand jury has a lot of power ....especially a federal grand jury. It is, in fact, recognized for having independent powers under the judicial branch, rather than simply the legislative branch.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
20. I'm not a lawyer, but that seems like it violates the 5th Amendment
Tue May 1, 2018, 09:38 PM
May 2018

"No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury"

still_one

(91,963 posts)
22. I don't think the Trump will oblige, and this is going to the SC. I think the likely hood that
Tue May 1, 2018, 10:33 PM
May 2018

trump will fire Mueller just increased big time

There is no way I don't see this leading this into a Constitutional Crisis

WiseElder

(130 posts)
26. If you want some serious entertainment
Wed May 2, 2018, 07:48 AM
May 2018

Head over to Faux news website and take a look at the comments on this same story. The Trump puppets are going bonkers talking about starting a new civil war and other craziness. Trump has them all totally convinced he is above the law and the law does not count because he is an innocent victim.
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