Sanders Mulls Another Presidential Bid
Source: Political Wire
Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) former presidential campaign manager told C-SPAN that the Vermont independent is considering another presidential run.
Said Jeff Weaver: Nationally, he is considering another run for the presidency. When the time comes I think well have an answer to that. But right now hes still considering it.
Read more: https://politicalwire.com/2018/05/30/sanders-mulls-another-presidential-bid/
On reflection, my concern isn't that he's too left wing; it's that I can't see him taking on Trump the way Trump will need to be taken on. I worry that he'll think his ideas are good enough to win.
RandySF
(57,581 posts)Cha
(295,899 posts)Too divisive.
Docreed2003
(16,817 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)trueblue2007
(17,137 posts)cyclonefence
(4,483 posts)Not another geriatric white man no matter how sound his politics
TexasBushwhacker
(20,043 posts)But I think he's too old to be a viable candidate. I would rather he choose a like minded younger politician, preferably from a swing state, and support them vigourously.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,153 posts)I can't stand all the Bernie hate on DU. Its divisive and just what the GOP want.
But surely there must be a younger version of him somewhere.
Also, I think he would have won the election if he would have been our candidate in 2016. Because the GOP did not have the head start in disinformation campaigning like they did with Hillary. He was too popular to chip enough away. He had too much support with independents. But they've now had time to realize that they would have to take him serious if he ran again and will have a whole library of fake news and invented CT about him ready to go.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,043 posts)But we cannot forget the Russia factor. I have a feeling the fix was in for Trump to be elected even in the primaries. The question is, now that we know that happened, will we be able to prevent it from happening again?
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)Putin hated her more than anything because of her efforts to address Russia's human rights atrocities. So far it seems like he would have settled for either candidate as his horse in the race. He just didn't like Hillary because she made him look like the weak man he is. That being said, it looks like Russia is trying to meddle again in the midterm elections... probably to keep the crazy racists energized.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)trump was the ideal man for the job.
Then again, he might have considered sanders a weak rival, not the formidable foe that he was facing if Hillary became POTUS.
He really feared her.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)Last edited Wed May 30, 2018, 08:21 PM - Edit history (1)
it.
Sanders lost the nomination because millions more voters voted for Hillary. That's a simple fact, simple math. If he could no motivate enough people to vote for him to get the nomination, what would anyone think that he'd get enough votes to win the GE? And I'm talking factual reasoning, not anecdotes.
Sanders was not vetted. Hillary treated him with kid gloves. Yet he had quite a bit of baggage. You think that the GOP wouldn't have been able to create a smear campaign against him in a matter of weeks? Rightly or wrongly they would have painted him as a commie-loving socialist dead-beat dad who never had a real job until he was 40 years old and then had a long but mediocre career in congress. And that would have just been the tip of the iceberg. Let's not even think what they would have done with Jane and her Burlington college mess.
Sanders would have been trounced in the GE. That would have been the only realistic outcome.
George II
(67,782 posts)To them there was potentially an endless supply of red meat, especially by trump himself.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)Gothmog
(143,998 posts)Thekaspervote
(32,605 posts)secondwind
(16,903 posts)liberal N proud
(60,298 posts)He fractured the Democratic Party last time.
DownriverDem
(6,205 posts)Bernie is not a member of the Democratic Party. He & his supporters caused a big mess last time. Go away Bernie!
LiberalLovinLug
(14,153 posts)Those who allowed their resentment and hatred towards him to cloud their thinking, and railed on against the most popular politician, who is on our side, fractured the Democratic Party.
emulatorloo
(43,979 posts)He surrounds himself with hotheaded ideologues and loose cannons like Weaver and Turner. He took our donations last time and paid his family members. When questioned about policy implementation, he becomes angry and defensive. He is not financially transparent. He has a pac that is not required to disclose its big donors, and he will not release his tax returns. He continually makes gaffes (Hillary should have stopped Russian Trolls, tone deaf statements on MLK day, constant slams on Democrats etc)
I supported him in primary 2016, and he is an excellent Senator for his constituents. He does not have what it takes to be president.
He was not vetted last time. In 2020 his record will be examined and he will be asked tough questions by the press as well as the other candidates. Not just the DUers you are attempting to dismiss and discredit for their legitimate question.
As to the most popular politician, I am sure you are aware Biden is out polling him in the 2020 polls so far. Warren out polled him as well in a recent New Hampshire poll.
R B Garr
(16,919 posts)This is the realism we all must focus on, not the divisive My Way or the Highway one-size-fits-all campaign rhetoric we've had to endure.
Thank you, emulatorloo!
LSFL
(1,109 posts)Divisive ones do though.
R B Garr
(16,919 posts)Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)Would you call Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton divisive? Each of them inspired a lot of resentment and hatred. So, of course, did George W. Bush.
In practice, when someone says "Politician X is divisive," it usually seems to come down to "Politician X inspires resentment and hatred in me."
LiberalLovinLug
(14,153 posts)Response to LiberalLovinLug (Reply #46)
liberal N proud This message was self-deleted by its author.
liberal N proud
(60,298 posts)His supporters on this site during the 2016 election. Many new rules were created because of their actions. Then there was the convention.
We will never know if Hillary supporters would have accepted Bernie, but we do know how the Bernie supporters acted
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)Any primary contest leaves some people on the losing side(s) feeling so angry that they won't vote for the winner. The fact is that those who supported Bernie in the 2016 primaries voted Democratic in the general election in greater proportion than did her 2008 primary voters.
still_one
(91,937 posts)greatauntoftriplets
(175,691 posts)Please!
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)He definitely will have a good shot.
cab67
(2,962 posts)you mean "none whatsoever."
I like him. A lot. But he's not the right person for 2020.
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)Debate on our side if we seriously intend to take back the white house. He is also currently the front runner in the field of democrats. I think that makes his chances pretty good.
Cha
(295,899 posts)DownriverDem
(6,205 posts)We have a two party system. Bernie is not a member of the Democratic Party. Wake up! And if he does run as an independent he will split the Dem vote and you can welcome trump to a second term. So help us out here. Whose side are you on?
Doodley
(8,976 posts)Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)obligation as a member of the party within the legislature, and to Democratic values -arguably more than actual Democrats like Joe Manchin or Donnelly for decades on end. Stop that nonesense. He is still polled as one of the most popular politicians in the country.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,110 posts)2016 primary election. We need to move on and unite if we hope to take over the House and Senate in 2018 and defeat that POS occupying the White House in 2020.
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,110 posts)of defeating Dotard Chump. Yet, here we are, some still stuck in the past.
vsrazdem
(2,176 posts)still_one
(91,937 posts)2020 by republicans in their primaries, which have a good opportunity to split the republicans among themselves, and if Sanders sticks his, "I refuse to join the Democratic party", nose into the 2020 race, it will be a disaster.
After 2016, he couldn't change his party affiliation fast enough back to independent status.
Right or wrong, Sanders has become a polarizing figure among a lot of Democrats, and that is not going away anytime soon.
The republicans would love for Sanders to run in 2020.
comradebillyboy
(10,119 posts)So would Putin.
still_one
(91,937 posts)Botany
(70,281 posts)I wonder if the Russians are already funding him?
comradebillyboy
(10,119 posts)radical noodle
(7,990 posts)Sophia4
(3,515 posts)would vote for him?
There was a lot of bitterness about Sanders supporters who did not vote for Hillary, a lot of talk about voting for the Democratic candidate no matter what.
Would everyone here vote for Sanders if he won the Democratic primary fair and square?
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)And there wouldnt be so many Clinton suppirters either
DavidDvorkin
(19,404 posts)But he has no chance of winning the nomination.
brooklynite
(93,834 posts)Right. It didn't happen. Neither would this.
DonCoquixote
(13,615 posts)even though he would be the country's equivalent to suicide.
DownriverDem
(6,205 posts)Bernie is not a member of the Democratic Party. If he were and won the nomination, Dems would vote for him.
Wake up!!!!!
Tess49
(1,577 posts)R B Garr
(16,919 posts)because it's a big state and we can send messages. It also doesn't matter in other states, as well. (this is all based on what I recall of your pro Sanders posts, correct me if I'm wrong.)
I'm just finding your concern over nailing down who would hypothetically vote for Sanders to be at cross purposes from some of your earlier posts that were basically relating that the Democratic nominee was not the priority as much as an individuals "ideas." Has something changed?
Sophia4
(3,515 posts)R B Garr
(16,919 posts)So you can look to your own standards you promoted. Should others adopt your standards for voting for the Democratic nominee?? I recall your own stated reasons for why you refused to vote for Hillary.
still_one
(91,937 posts)bitterness from 2016 is NOT going away.
PatrickforO
(14,514 posts)according to NPR, about 14% of Bernie supporters ended up voting for Trump and another significant number did not vote or voted third party.
I supported Bernie, and it was a bitter primary. I can remember how furious I was at the meme painting Bernie as a racist, and suggesting that social justice is more important than economic justice when Bernie's platform would substantially and measurably have made my life and the lives of my immediate family better. In fact, universal healthcare would make ALL of our lives better and immediately help most American businesses with their most expensive line item. Having healthcare not tied to employment is the way to go.
That said, I voted for Hillary after she won the primary, because of the Supreme Court, and because I didn't want Trump in there.
It blows me away that so many who voted for Bernie in the primary turned away from Democrats in the general.
And Hillary actually WON the general but for the electoral college. I urge all to support the National Popular Vote Initiative because we need to circumvent the electoral college once and for all.
It makes me wonder what groups of Bernie supporters turned away from the Dems. Were they left-leaning independents? In some states independents can vote in the primaries. What generation were they? Were they millennials, primarily, or boomers?
Let's not have a repeat of that in 2020! Personally, I think Bernie is too old, but his platform - we need those things.
Sophia4
(3,515 posts)"I urge all to support the National Popular Vote Initiative because we need to circumvent the electoral college once and for all."
R B Garr
(16,919 posts)Hillary Clinton was for Universal Health care and a quick review shows Bernie was more interested in his single payer 25 years ago when it could go nowhere while Hillary was pushing for Universal Health Care. All or nothing usually gets you nothing.
The vicious and prolonged attacks on Hillary look like they had the intended results.... That looks to be why people turned away from her. There are people posting in this thread who refused to vote for Hillary. Now we have Trump.
PatrickforO
(14,514 posts)I'm afraid I want single payer in the form of Medicare for all Americans. The reason I want this is that I believe the profit motive should be taken far away from health care.
To me, the argument that if a doctor can't make high six figures then good people won't be attracted to medicine doesn't wash.
First of all, I've been a public servant for nearly 30 years, and I've seen many, many bright and dedicated people; people who will work hard, well beyond the standard 8-hour day and even on weekends to make a difference. I am only motivated by money to the extent that I insist on having enough to make ends meet. What is it, $70K, that is considered the optimal income? I'm fine with enough.
What about nurses? I know some fine nurses - truly excellent and dedicated people. They didn't get into it for the money, either.
As I get older and need more in the way of geriatric healthcare it means quite a lot to me to have a physician who cares more about me than s/he does about money.
So, Medicare for all Americans, and the government given the power to negotiate price.
I would be ecstatic with a British or Canadian style system.
R B Garr
(16,919 posts)splitting hairs. Quite the contrary. Supporting single payer has been a litmus test imposed on good Democrats who are singled out for recalls and primaries if they dont specifically support Bernies political platform no matter where they are from.
Universal health care and public options are certainly progressive and realistic goals, so getting attacked for those positions only helps the GOP. I see what you like about single payer, but I see support for it goes down once the costs are known.
PatrickforO
(14,514 posts)You know, I think that's because we've allowed the Republicans, since the days of Reagan, to paint taxes as bad things - rip offs where the government takes your money and you don't get anything in return.
We need to turn that around and educate people about how taxes pay for things we all need and want.
Consider Denmark. I know a Dane, and he points out that while taxes there are very high, they have socialized healthcare, college is free as far as you are capable of going (he has a master's degree), unions are very strong, and everyone has a guaranteed basic income even if they are not working, and a strong old age pension.
People in the northern European socialist countries are much less economically insecure, and are much happier in general than we are. They also have better health outcomes and infant mortality is much lower than ours.
Not saying they are perfect by a long shot, but consider us. You have guys like Daniel Pink writing about the 'gig' economy and making it seem like it is glamorous, but the reality is they live in constant fear with no benefits and low pay - if the 'check engine' light goes on, or they have a sick kid, they may find themselves out of a job, and if they get sick they can go on the Republican health plan of dying quickly.
So, yeah, I vote a straight Democratic ticket, and if a candidate wants universal healthcare, I always ask if they want to add in a public option. Because you know what? You add in a public option and almost everyone will opt for it, and the system will slowly morph into a single payer deal.
But, bottom line, we need to get MUCH more articulate talking about these kitchen table issues, and educating people about the value of their taxes in terms of their own quality of life. Of course, to do that, we'll have to have substantial cuts to the military budget and the NSA organs, because we don't really get much from that. Not that we shouldn't keep a strong military - I didn't say that! But we could sure cut a bunch of that hugely bloated budget.
Docreed2003
(16,817 posts)Other than to ask: what doctors make "high six figures"??? I don't know any other than specialty surgeons. I spent the better part of my twenties in training and as a general surgeon I'm in the lower six figures, despite being busier than I can manage.
There seeems to be a big misconception about physician pay.
PatrickforO
(14,514 posts)generalizing. And, low six figures isn't all that great, especially if you're the only income in the family. I hear you there.
I do stand by my personal desire to get care from a doctor who cares more about healing patients than making money, though as I said, money is important.
But look at what you have for what you make - tons of bullshit paperwork, and if you're with some HMO, you end up with the expectation of the 9 minute or 15 minute appointment, or however long they tell you is enough to spend with patients.
You know, I have an HMO, and last time I went in for a physical, they had me go to the lab first and did some blood work. The nurse checked my weight, temperature and blood pressure....................and then the doctor came in and chatted with me for about 10 minutes. Seriously. He didn't make me disrobe. He didn't look down my throat. He didn't listen to me breathe. He didn't press on my scrotum and have me cough to see if I had a hernia. None of that, which I DID have way back when when the system was neither so expensive nor so profit oriented (or retained-earnings-oriented in the case of non-profits).
I mean, I didn't even feel like the guy was really a doctor. Nice guy, but you know, didn't seem like a real MD. Even though he was.
And the criminal thing about it is that between my employer and me, we pay OVER $17K per year for just me and my spouse in premiums. For what? Shitty, rationed healthcare with financially crippling copays. AND, let's not forget the double-digit increases in cost imposed on us each year, while the exclusions grow. It's bullshit, that's all.
Then you get dirt bags like Shkreli who bump the price of life-saving drugs thousands of percent. I was at my pharmacy getting my meds and the guy at the window next to mine said, "How much will this drug for my wife be?" Turns out it was $330 per month for the dosage his wife needed, and THAT'S JUST ONE MED.
I've worked hard, hard, hard all my life, and this shit is what I get? And to top that off, the fucks want to cut Social Security benefits???
A couple deep breaths to calm back down, but I'm sure you see where I'm coming from as a consumer of the whole shitty, greed-ridden, disgusting, profit mongering, crappy system we have now. I get angry every time I have to break down and go see a doctor.
liberal N proud
(60,298 posts)History shows us how the Bernie crowd acted and refused to vote for the winner of the Democratic Primary.
I will not forgive them for their part in the mess we are in with trump.
Cha
(295,899 posts)MarianJack
(10,237 posts)...seriously PISS OFF!
He lacks the mental toughness, self discipline and intelligence to ever be able to sustain a national general election campaign. He would take a coast to coast pounding that would make 1972 look like 1960.
PEACE!
JustAnotherGen
(31,681 posts)I.E. - I'm wondering if it would be as a Democratic Socialist or if he would try a bid in the Democratic Party again?
DownriverDem
(6,205 posts)the Dems do not get sucked in by the Bernie train again. We don't have time for this crap.
JustAnotherGen
(31,681 posts)I want a Gen X candidate. He doesn't fit the bill.
MarianJack
(10,237 posts)...I'd like to see a Joe Biden/Kamala Harris or Tammy Duckworth ticket.
While I have no time for Back Bench Bernie, I'd vote for a dried up sack of monkey turds over Donald Trump or any other Republican. The monkey turds would still be a significant improvement.
PEACE!
JustAnotherGen
(31,681 posts)Tammy Duckworth. I don't think she's on anyone's radar - but a combat veteran with a heart and a focus on PEOPLE?
Hell to the Yeah! She has zero f*cks to give and tells it like it is, and doesn't suffer a fool TRYING to talk down to her. The GOP is the collective fool.
DavidDvorkin
(19,404 posts)If he runs, he'll fade quickly.
Gymbo
(133 posts)A real Democrat running for office. No Socialists need apply.
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)You do know that when the Democratic Party pushed through Social Security, the Republicans screamed that it was socialism?
And that, when the Democratic Party pushed through Medicare, the Republicans screamed that it was socialism?
Yes, let's have a Democratic nominee in 2020 who calls for privatizing these programs, just to make sure no one can use that dreaded s-word about us.
Bernie wants Medicare for All, a higher minimum wage, and free public post-secondary education. So the 2020 platform should call for abolishing Medicare, reducing or eliminating the federal minimum wage, and abolishing free public elementary and secondary education. No Socialists need apply!
MANative
(4,105 posts)EricMaundry
(1,619 posts)He has a much better resume'.
Gothmog
(143,998 posts)Gamecock Lefty
(698 posts)and if Sanders won the Dem nomination he'd get my vote in a skinny minute!
Tarc
(10,472 posts)If he wins the nom, sure, I'll vote for him. But this just doesn't seem realistic.
Power 2 the People
(2,437 posts)Keep fighting for Democratic ideals. Everyone's voice deserves to be heard.
DownriverDem
(6,205 posts)What is it that Bernie folks don't get? Bernie is not a member of the Democratic Party. Maybe Bernie folks really want trump to win a second term. That is what will happen if he and his supporters try and mess with us again.
TeamPooka
(24,155 posts)Stonepounder
(4,033 posts)Stump for his everywhere, talk about how he (Sanders) would work with the new President to push his agenda. But don't fracture the party again!
Freddie
(9,231 posts)Doodley
(8,976 posts)comradebillyboy
(10,119 posts)virtuous man in politics don't you know.
Cha
(295,899 posts)Freddie
(9,231 posts)Whoever candidate is will be running against a 74-year old. Can't we PLEASE have someone at least under 65?? (This means you too, Joe).
redstatebluegirl
(12,264 posts)KPN
(15,585 posts)ring again, though I'd be surprised if he actually does.
His candidacy would only strengthen the field as far as progressive values and internal party debate goes. I don't believe Sanders was the reason Hillary lost in 2016 and do not believe his candidacy would cause any other Democrstic Pstty nominee in 2020 to lose.
Sanders is a straight-shooter. His presence will appeal to the populist left and help ensure other candidates are straight- shooters and genuine as well.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,153 posts)I'd rather a younger progressive with the same outlook as Bernie runs with his support. But his presence would keep at least some of the focus on actual traditional Democratic party values.
But IF he did choose to run, and he actually won the primary, I'd back him 100%. Just like all other DUers would....right?
..............right?
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,110 posts)quartz007
(1,216 posts)energizing so many young voters to become interested in politics, registering and voting.
Doodley
(8,976 posts)KPN
(15,585 posts)Sanders didn't cause Trumps election in 2016. Why would it this time?
R B Garr
(16,919 posts)is that we have actual facts now, mostly in the form of the Russian interference that shows Sanders and Trump were helped to produce the result of Hillary losing by extended and damaging attacks on her. Those are the facts. Denying reality isn't an option anymore. All it took was 75,000 nationwide to buy the anti-Hillary propaganda.
TomCADem
(17,378 posts)Bernie could make a credible argument that he would have some cross appeal with Trump voters, particularly if pushes his more isolationist and nativist positions.
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)that you can be. He has no "nativist positions," and his brand has always been about inclusivity and diversity. Please do not obfuscate his record and positions just because you don't like him. Thanks =)
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)&t=1s
As for gun control, his record speaks for itself:
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)Not that again? That bill was essentially the bracero program in a new form. Did we actually want that again? He was advocating for more lenient immigration laws, not stricter.
Also he has a D- rating from the NRA and not an F. You have pointed out why that is the case. Still, these cases are far from being outright pro-gun.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)made up for the campaign.
Watch the clip. He doesn't want foreigners taking American jobs. His words. he and Dobbs agree on everything.
And nothing but a F rating is acceptable for a progressive.
llmart
(15,499 posts)We don't need any more old, white men running the country. Bernie's day in the sun is over and he better realize it. He's starting to look more and more like someone who needs to be in the limelight.
Grokenstein
(5,707 posts)...when the end result of their efforts is always "more power for Republicans"?
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)He founded it. =)
George II
(67,782 posts)Once again we see credit being given to Sanders exclusively when there were SIX members of the House who founded it (two of whom are still in the House):
The CPC was established in 1991 by six members of the United States House of Representatives: U.S. Representatives Ron Dellums (D-CA), Lane Evans (D-IL), Thomas Andrews (D-ME), Peter DeFazio (D-OR), Maxine Waters (D-CA) and Bernie Sanders (I-VT).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_Progressive_Caucus
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)He founded it. Later, 5 other House members helped him.
Its first and founding director was an independent socialist from Vermont named Bernie Sanders.
https://www.thenation.com/article/its-time-for-the-congressional-progressive-caucus-to-raise-its-game/
George II
(67,782 posts)"The CPC was created in 1991 by six members of the U.S. House: Ron Dellums, Lane Evans, Thomas Andrews, Peter DeFazio, Maxine Waters and Bernie Sanders."
The two highlighted are still in Congress.
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)But I think it is fair that "first and founding member" is a more distinguished position than "was created by," which is no doubt true, just different. Bernie was the first and founding member of the CPC. In other words: He founded it. Others helped afterwards to make it what it is now.
George II
(67,782 posts)Last edited Wed May 30, 2018, 11:14 PM - Edit history (1)
Cha
(295,899 posts)giving BS credit and nobody else.
George II
(67,782 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,107 posts)not being a Democrat so that in itself speaks volumes in regards to his leadership.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Sanders
George II
(67,782 posts)...to get someone to admit that since this afternoon.
(Edit of earlier post, I said "The Hill", meant to say "The Nation" )
Uncle Joe
(58,107 posts)Grokenstein
(5,707 posts)"My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
Nothing beside remains: round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare,
The lone and level sands stretch far away.
=(
DavidDvorkin
(19,404 posts)Perfect.
harun
(11,348 posts)we can do it
(12,116 posts)awesomerwb1
(4,256 posts)Rather see Joe Biden if we're going with "experience".
Thirties Child
(543 posts)Been there, done that and speak from experience. 80 is too old.
jrthin
(4,824 posts)Wwcd
(6,288 posts)What's LBN about it?
He never stopped campaigning after the last Pres run, has he?
Bleacher Creature
(11,235 posts)quartz007
(1,216 posts)His net worth is small for that very reason. But crooked politicians are more clever, more rich and win more often.
TEB
(12,711 posts)RelativelyJones
(898 posts)Go figure.
handmade34
(22,755 posts)PatrickforO
(14,514 posts)it was not Bernie, per se, but his platform that made the most sense to me.
Economic justice is a great thing (yes I agree we ALSO need social justice and to take strong steps to end racism), and Bernie's platform would genuinely make my life and the lives of my immediate family members better. Measurably better.
I saw an interesting article on Daily Kos or perhaps some other venue, and it was about how, even though pundits are really, really, really trying to pull an artificial controversy about how our party is 'split,' we're really not.
Democratic candidates are running, it seems, on these very economic issues!
So...basically, Bernie's platform without Bernie.
Because, make no mistake. It isn't Bernie that so attracts me. Rather it is:
- Universal healthcare
- Expanded Social Security
- Massive public investment in infrastructure (several Dems in my state campaigning for statewide office advocate PUBLIC BANKING)
- Strong steps to combat or at least mitigate climate change
- Along with that, a sane energy policy that emphasizes renewables and conservation
- Expanding public education to include state postsecondary schooling up to the bachelor's level
- Expanding Head Start, child nutrition and childcare subsidy programs
- Substantial cuts to the military budget, perhaps back to year 2000 levels
- Serious review of the multiple security agencies and how we could maybe get rid of the NSA?
I want some additional things too:
- We desperately need a new Fairness Doctrine - and next time I caucus, I will be introducing that to the platform at county level
- We need to force changes in corporate charters expanding the fiduciary responsibility beyond shareholders to labor, consumers, and the environment
Funny how many of the candidates running, at least in Colorado, are advocating the top list. I'm trying to educate people about the Fairness Doctrine and needed changes to corporate charters.
yurbud
(39,405 posts)And Bernie got as far as he did by being about policy not personality.
Democrats would do well to follow his lead even if it means they lose major donors and limits their post-politics rewards.
LSFL
(1,109 posts)But if he runs again, he knows who he is working for.
Oneironaut
(5,461 posts)Bernie is going to divide our party further when we need unity more than ever. His nomination would all but guarantee a Trump re-election.
Bernie would take Trump on, but I dont think he would have a chance of winning. We need a universally liked candidate who will unite the party with a common purpose.
efhmc
(14,709 posts)nt
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)I mean, it seems to be SOP for him. I will NEVER vote for him in a primary. I would support him in the GE if he is the nominee, but I've had it with him and his more delusional fans. It's always gotta be about Bernie. Fuck that.
Raine
(30,540 posts)but I would like for a totally new person who has never run for president before to get into it.
Cha
(295,899 posts)have someone who is brilliant and awesome at bringing everyone together
But I'll go one further...I don't trust him.
That's included.
PubliusEnigma
(1,583 posts)Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)Bernie post from this poster. Keepin faith alive....and us yawning.
Blue Owl
(49,902 posts)Meaning Ralph Nader...
DONT BE THAT GUY!