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brooklynite

(93,873 posts)
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 03:03 PM Oct 2020

Pence, Harris teams at odds over plexiglass at debate

Source: Washington Post

Vice President Pence is requesting that no plexiglass dividers be placed on his side of the stage at Wednesday night’s vice-presidential debate, after an announcement Monday by the Commission on Presidential Debates that dividers had been agreed to as a safety measure to prevent the spread of the coronavirus.

Marc Short, the vice president’s chief of staff, said the vice president’s team does not view plexiglass dividers as medically necessary, given other safety measures at the debate, including a 12-foot distance between Pence and Sen. Kamala D. Harris (D-Calif.) and daily testing of both candidates.

The commission and the Biden campaign both said Tuesday they understood that the Pence team was in agreement with the notion of plexiglass barriers. But the Pence team suggested they did not want any such dividers around the vice president, regardless of what Harris does.
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“If she wants it, she’s more than welcome to surround herself with plexiglass if that makes her feel more comfortable,” Short said. “It’s not needed.”


Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/vp-debate-coronavirus-safety/2020/10/06/ee44fa00-07e7-11eb-a166-dc429b380d10_story.html

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Pence, Harris teams at odds over plexiglass at debate (Original Post) brooklynite Oct 2020 OP
Safety, not snark C_U_L8R Oct 2020 #1
fuck the debates. Voltaire2 Oct 2020 #2
I tried that once but the hole was too tight. Captain Canada Oct 2020 #50
It's just a shield! Why the hell do they care?? Siwsan Oct 2020 #3
Not manly. BlueNProud Oct 2020 #5
So then, it's the perfect fit for Mother's Boy. Siwsan Oct 2020 #7
Pence is not Star-Thrower Oct 2020 #54
Like face masks... paleotn Oct 2020 #49
the commission needs to show some balls here BlueNProud Oct 2020 #4
It may be that is what they want. wcollar Oct 2020 #23
EXACTLY!!! Rebl2 Oct 2020 #41
Marc says a plexiglass divider is not needed. MontanaMama Oct 2020 #6
It certainly doesn't hurt L.Pharmstrong Oct 2020 #16
I was being facetious. MontanaMama Oct 2020 #20
I wasn't commenting specifically on your post. L.Pharmstrong Oct 2020 #22
The host needs to insist on it as well RockCreek Oct 2020 #8
WHAT IS WITH THESE PEOPLE? jayfish Oct 2020 #9
It's what they do. They are the Grand Opposite Party, after all. rickyhall Oct 2020 #36
They want her to pay for it. n/t EndlessWire Oct 2020 #52
He's AFRAID of her bluestarone Oct 2020 #10
WaPo headline is misleading mcar Oct 2020 #11
It's The Little Things. jayfish Oct 2020 #15
Pence is toxic until proven otherwise. Sneederbunk Oct 2020 #12
Kamala should say the exact same thing Jaime Said when he was debating Lindsey Frances Oct 2020 #13
No thanks, Mr. Pence. I don't like being jerked around. NCjack Oct 2020 #14
Perfect opportunity for Kamala to mention how irresponsible the republicans on trump's team BComplex Oct 2020 #17
Can't Sen. Harris just have one around her podium? Surely white satan has nothing to say about niyad Oct 2020 #18
I'm thinking the same thing. Bayard Oct 2020 #27
Kamala should point them all out from the stage...... Chakaconcarne Oct 2020 #32
harris and biden need plexiglass booth not divider AlexSFCA Oct 2020 #19
I think It's Trump who is making these demands and Pence is following them JI7 Oct 2020 #21
I think you are right, just his latest Roid Rage. R Merm Oct 2020 #56
Sounds like the Pence group sees this as a way to score some Alpha male points rurallib Oct 2020 #24
Seen on back seats of cars all over the country: muriel_volestrangler Oct 2020 #25
Do the debate organizers mandate a shield? matt819 Oct 2020 #26
Can't we trust the man MyOwnPeace Oct 2020 #28
Separate buildings. James48 Oct 2020 #29
This DeschutesRiver Oct 2020 #30
It's because it will interfere with his earpiece reception..... Chakaconcarne Oct 2020 #31
Take it or leave it. I don't trust his Dr's nor his tests. ffr Oct 2020 #33
I think there needs to be plexiglass between the gaggle of Trump invitees ... JustABozoOnThisBus Oct 2020 #34
Cancel the debates bucolic_frolic Oct 2020 #35
Bullshit! Trump cheated by not submitting to the required and agreed testing. hamsterjill Oct 2020 #37
Well then. If I'm Kamala, I'd have a 10x6 plexiglass cube made with Texin Oct 2020 #38
I say put them in a sound proof booth and ... aggiesal Oct 2020 #39
No Mike. Kamala would rather live. amb123 Oct 2020 #40
Harris needs to be super safe around Pence and any other Reeps. ananda Oct 2020 #42
Plexiglass is a bare minimum precaution. Pence belongs in isolation. Eugene Oct 2020 #43
Harris is not at odds. She has, and continues to follow the protocols set by the commission LanternWaste Oct 2020 #44
No Plexiglass no Debate. BlueIdaho Oct 2020 #45
Mikee believes he is protected by the shield of Gawd. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2020 #46
Maybe it interferes with his invisible man in the sky communication? Maybe it..fuck it. I give up Evolve Dammit Oct 2020 #47
My guess is, il douche told Pence not to have it rpannier Oct 2020 #58
Gee, you would think mother would be all for the divider so some woman would not molest him. appleannie1 Oct 2020 #48
Put Pence in a cage bucolic_frolic Oct 2020 #51
I have several outstanding bets that Pence will not debate. TomSlick Oct 2020 #53
To be honest I support Pence. cstanleytech Oct 2020 #55
Pence, in a team chock full of Covid infection, has the nerve to tell anyone else how to be safe? n/ pnwmom Oct 2020 #57
It's a dog whistle to the religious zealots jmbar2 Oct 2020 #59
Plus... world wide wally Oct 2020 #60
If I were Kamala I'd withdraw from the debate if Pence is refusing the plexiglass Seasider Oct 2020 #61

Siwsan

(26,177 posts)
3. It's just a shield! Why the hell do they care??
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 03:08 PM
Oct 2020

Well, except for the unfortunate (for Pence) visual that Kamala knows he's not safe to be near, with just air between them.

paleotn

(17,781 posts)
49. Like face masks...
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 07:48 PM
Oct 2020

It's political with these people. It reminds them of what complete and utter failures they all are.

wcollar

(175 posts)
23. It may be that is what they want.
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 03:42 PM
Oct 2020

It occurs to me that they may be looking for a way to back out of the debate.

MontanaMama

(23,242 posts)
6. Marc says a plexiglass divider is not needed.
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 03:10 PM
Oct 2020

How long before Marc tests positive? He will have to get back to us on this.

 

L.Pharmstrong

(152 posts)
16. It certainly doesn't hurt
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 03:16 PM
Oct 2020

And it may help. Trump and Pence are being unreasonable. The Biden/Harris Campaign should insist on it. If the debate gets cancelled, Trump and Pence will be blamed.

MontanaMama

(23,242 posts)
20. I was being facetious.
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 03:25 PM
Oct 2020

Marc is a tool and nobody should listen to him. I predict he will become infected because he believes basic protective practices are not necessary.

 

L.Pharmstrong

(152 posts)
22. I wasn't commenting specifically on your post.
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 03:42 PM
Oct 2020

Sorry. I was really expressing opinion as to the entire thread.

jayfish

(10,035 posts)
9. WHAT IS WITH THESE PEOPLE?
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 03:11 PM
Oct 2020

Why must they be contradictory on EVERYTHING? This isn't a huge deal. It's not like Pence is constructing the barrier himself.

mcar

(42,210 posts)
11. WaPo headline is misleading
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 03:11 PM
Oct 2020

They are not at odds; team Pence is trying to reneg on a previous agreement by saying they didn't actually agree. How many times are people going to fall for this?

Frances

(8,531 posts)
13. Kamala should say the exact same thing Jaime Said when he was debating Lindsey
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 03:12 PM
Oct 2020

In South Carolina
She loves her family and needs to protect them
She can add that she cares about the people who work for her as well as the voters she comes in contact with
The audience will get the message that Trump did not take precautions and look at all the people he imfected

BComplex

(7,984 posts)
17. Perfect opportunity for Kamala to mention how irresponsible the republicans on trump's team
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 03:16 PM
Oct 2020

have been with spreading the virus.

niyad

(112,435 posts)
18. Can't Sen. Harris just have one around her podium? Surely white satan has nothing to say about
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 03:17 PM
Oct 2020

If the orange superspreaders can go to the hospital "out of an abundance of caution", surely some plexiglass is not too much to ask.

Bayard

(21,806 posts)
27. I'm thinking the same thing.
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 04:12 PM
Oct 2020

You know no one on the repug side will be wearing masks.

Continue to listen to the scientists, Kamala. We can't risk our candidate.

AlexSFCA

(6,137 posts)
19. harris and biden need plexiglass booth not divider
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 03:20 PM
Oct 2020

we can’t risk, airborne virus, multiple infected people will be present to cheer trump including his third (porn) lady

JI7

(89,182 posts)
21. I think It's Trump who is making these demands and Pence is following them
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 03:28 PM
Oct 2020

If Pence is infected they want him to spread it .

rurallib

(62,346 posts)
24. Sounds like the Pence group sees this as a way to score some Alpha male points
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 03:43 PM
Oct 2020

on the female candidate. With the big orange alpha having the virus, trying to stop extra protection seems to me to make them look pretty stupid.

I actully doubt Pence gives a shit about the plexiglass, but would most likely love an excuse to duck the debate.

matt819

(10,749 posts)
26. Do the debate organizers mandate a shield?
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 04:01 PM
Oct 2020

If so, then there's gonna be a shield. If not, then they were stupid not to mandate a shield.

Or maybe turn the tables. No shields, no masks, no social distancing. How do you like them apples, Pence?

MyOwnPeace

(16,888 posts)
28. Can't we trust the man
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 04:30 PM
Oct 2020

who is in charge of the Corona Virus COVID-19 Team as assigned by the White House and President of the United States?

Well, let's look at how well he's done so far.............

DeschutesRiver

(2,354 posts)
30. This
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 04:50 PM
Oct 2020

I’ve been asking this for the last week here at home....why can’t all remaining debates be done by zoom? Esp where it’s a public safety issue.

They are speaking to a practically empty room. Zoom would work just as well in that regard and everyone would run zero risk of infection. I think the debate commission should require it.

ffr

(22,649 posts)
33. Take it or leave it. I don't trust his Dr's nor his tests.
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 05:04 PM
Oct 2020

Pence was around impeached infected tRump at three events while tRump was contagious. And he frequently has lunch with him too. He's incubating and I could care less what he demands. Protect Kamala at all costs!

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,283 posts)
34. I think there needs to be plexiglass between the gaggle of Trump invitees ...
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 05:07 PM
Oct 2020

... and the rest of any audience. Let them take off their masks, do high-fives, fist-bumps, hugs and kisses. Just keep the rest of the audience safe.

For veep or prez debates.

bucolic_frolic

(42,676 posts)
35. Cancel the debates
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 05:08 PM
Oct 2020

Only ignoramuses haven't decided yet. Cancel the debates and give each side time on TV next week. Lester Holt, Bob Woodward, George Stephanopolus have accomplished more in their interviews than the Trump-Biden debate.

hamsterjill

(15,214 posts)
37. Bullshit! Trump cheated by not submitting to the required and agreed testing.
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 05:14 PM
Oct 2020

What in the hell will some plexiglass hurt? Heck, Mother would probably be more comfortable with an added barrier between Pence and a real woman.

I’m tired of the crap! Safety first.

Texin

(2,585 posts)
38. Well then. If I'm Kamala, I'd have a 10x6 plexiglass cube made with
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 05:18 PM
Oct 2020

outside air-vented environment, and with a sound system.

Eugene

(61,595 posts)
43. Plexiglass is a bare minimum precaution. Pence belongs in isolation.
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 06:49 PM
Oct 2020

Nobody from the Trump administration can be trusted to take COVID seriously.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
44. Harris is not at odds. She has, and continues to follow the protocols set by the commission
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 06:52 PM
Oct 2020

Accepting rational rules is by its very nature, the opposite of being at odds.

Pence's team may have a tantrum over the rules, but that does not put Harris at odds with Pence.

rpannier

(24,304 posts)
58. My guess is, il douche told Pence not to have it
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 08:31 PM
Oct 2020

It might make the tin-pot dictator wanna-be look worse

appleannie1

(5,044 posts)
48. Gee, you would think mother would be all for the divider so some woman would not molest him.
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 07:46 PM
Oct 2020

Not that any other woman in the world would want to. It must be awful to be that afraid people don't view them as "manly"

TomSlick

(11,035 posts)
53. I have several outstanding bets that Pence will not debate.
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 08:00 PM
Oct 2020

Mother would not like to see a another woman pull down his pants and paddle his little behind.

Now, he has an excuse.

cstanleytech

(26,080 posts)
55. To be honest I support Pence.
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 08:13 PM
Oct 2020

After all it would be pretty embarrassing if people would place things like "Danger: Quarantined" stickers on the plexi all around him to warn people away from him not to mention the "A vote for Trump is a vote for a moron".

jmbar2

(4,832 posts)
59. It's a dog whistle to the religious zealots
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 08:32 PM
Oct 2020

He believes that he is under God's protection. Kamala behind the glass will appear "unblessed".

Seasider

(165 posts)
61. If I were Kamala I'd withdraw from the debate if Pence is refusing the plexiglass
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 08:59 PM
Oct 2020

It's the Trump campaign that really needs these debates to turn things around. I don't get why we keep making concessions to these idiots.

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